Are people okay with losing friends over politics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not just Trump. They have been protesting Republican attorney generals, calling them fascist at least back to Reagan. I remember the protests in the streets that even blocked ambulances complaining about Ashcroft.
And comparing Republicans to Nazis goes back to Harry Truman.

Trump and Miller were calling Biden and Harris facists, communists, marxists and so on and you didn't have a problem with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually feel bad for you OP. I can tell you were sincere with your post, but the people on here are viscous.

How is it vicious to point out the trust of MAGA?

[Anonymous]

Before Trump, absolutely not. I come from a very conservative extended family and live in a red state. I grew up Christian, and I am still a Christian. Because of this, I could always understand the R point of view, especially on abortion. Even if I didn’t agree with them, I understood. So I never judged anyone for voting R.

Trump changed everything. It is no longer about politics. At all. Anyone who still supports him and makes excuses for him is simply not someone I want to spend time with. Our values, morals, and ethics are not the same. I have no respect whatsoever for anyone who still supports him. He is a racist, misogynistic pedophile. He is a cheater, abuser, and con man. If you are still in denial of this, then I don’t even know what to tell you. It is all right there in front of your eyes. You are choosing not to see it.

Listen to your daughter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just Trump. They have been protesting Republican attorney generals, calling them fascist at least back to Reagan. I remember the protests in the streets that even blocked ambulances complaining about Ashcroft.
And comparing Republicans to Nazis goes back to Harry Truman.

Bullshit. Not comparable. Trump is a new beast. Ask the millions of Republicans who reject him.

Where ARE the millions who reject him? Why aren’t they taking action and calling their representatives to oust this Ponzi scheme of a president?

Yeah, there are not millions of Republicans who reject him. The Republicans are MAGA. If not, why are GOP politicians who have been in Congress for decades supporting him?

[Anonymous]

I can not be friends of any Trump supporters. Our basic morals and values differ too much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not losing friends, I’m losing relatives who cheer on my husband and I losing our federal jobs while they— retirees— sit smug all comfy with their —throat clear—public sector pensions. If they live long enough they’ll spend more years collecting than they had actually worked in those jobs.

I think Trump has ruined more families than anything else since the civil war. Friends and I have taken a poll and the vast majority of families with 3 or more kids has at least one sibling estranged over politics. It seems like more MAGA have pulled away, except in DH’s family his gay brother pulled away from his MAGA brother in the first term.

This is the behavior of an abuser… isolate the person from family and friends.

Yes, I’m pp. My MAGA brother is abusive. He told everybody I was ruining my white boys lives because I was sending them to woke college. He texted them to be strong because every day people would teach them to hate themselves and they’d take opportunities from them and that he didn’t agree with me.

So yes, MAGA is abusive. My BFF’s MAGA sister stopped talking to her saying that she made her feel unsafe after my BFF said she didn’t want to talk politics. When her sister, like my brother, she couldn’t resist, she decided to isolate after getting pushback.

Finally, yes Trump is also an abuser because he’s isolating Dems from the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can not be friends of any Trump supporters. Our basic morals and values differ too much.

And they are too concerned with other people's sexuality and gender. Also usually moral absolutists and hypocrites and if liberals virtue signal then Republicans, especially trumpers, are guilty of worship/faith signal. I've never seen so many people want to talk about how religious they are and how they want to live a life of Christ and how they're going to stop being quiet about being Christians or being faithful yeah it's pretty clear to tell the people who have faith and act like followers of Christ and those who don't you don't have to say it for it to be true your actions speak louder than your words but please keep telling us about how much Jesus has saved you and how good you are and how righteous you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before Trump, absolutely not. I come from a very conservative extended family and live in a red state. I grew up Christian, and I am still a Christian. Because of this, I could always understand the R point of view, especially on abortion. Even if I didn’t agree with them, I understood. So I never judged anyone for voting R.

Trump changed everything. It is no longer about politics. At all. Anyone who still supports him and makes excuses for him is simply not someone I want to spend time with. Our values, morals, and ethics are not the same. I have no respect whatsoever for anyone who still supports him. He is a racist, misogynistic pedophile. He is a cheater, abuser, and con man. If you are still in denial of this, then I don’t even know what to tell you. It is all right there in front of your eyes. You are choosing not to see it.

Listen to your daughter.

I can relate and agree 100%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Politics and “views” are very different now. It’s not just fiscal conservatism etc. If I learn that someone voted for Trump in this last election I know that they are: OK with the Jan 6 attempt at insurrection, OK with Project 2025, OK with racism and homophobia and misogyny, OK with our president being a sexual assaulter, etc. So no, I would no longer want to be friends with you.

Yeah, you’re telling me it’s okay to cheat, lie, steal and hurt others. I’m not gonna wanna hang out with you.

Yes, exactly.

[Anonymous]

I think before trump the answer was no. Many of us had discussions about politics with friends and could agree to disagree.

Continuing to politely engage or maintain relationships now with trump supporters is increasingly hard as it really does come down to ones values.

Trump, Vance, et all openly state they “ hate”, they have violated our constitutional rights of free speech, have racist followers they openly support, fire people based on loyalty, seek retribution on a level that can only be described as cruel - no other purpose. Lie and gaslight from the podium.

It’s just really hard to look at people the same who can continue to support an administration this corrupt and cruel. It makes me so sad and all I can think of is these are likely the same kinds of people who turned the other way or told themselves not so bad during hitler…...When good people do nothing.

Your daughter is a good person doing something- choosing her friends based on her values.

We all want a healthy, safe, prosperous country. Why the admin continually messages we can only get there through hate and illegal power moves. When our own president chooses division over unity no wonder friendships fracture as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, it's really strange to me how you think it's "no big deal" whom you vote for.

You seem to think of politics like spots teams - not real life, and a lot of performance.

And yes, there is some performance in politics. But the decisions made are affecting people's real lives - jobs lost, health affected, choices changed.

I think people who voted for Trump fall inso 2 camps: the unbelievably selfish/privileged, and the unintelligent/naive. I consider being unbelievably selfish to be a bad friendship quality, so no, I don't want to associate with people like that.

I have a little more understanding for the unintelligent/naive, but certainly not for anyone who thinks who you vote for is "no big deal." You really think that people's lives aren't affected by politics???

+1 her friends are Hispanic. Does she realize that Hispanic Americans are also being rounded up and held by ICE?

Oh, let me guess.. she didn't they meant her friends...

DH dropped a friend who voted for Trump. This person was a long time R. DH had no issues with that. I was also a long time R. But, Trump? A whole different animal.

We are immigrants, and I am a minority. My family came on a family chain migration, and DH came on a work visa. We hear and see the hate that MAGA has for people like us. We're not stupid and naive like some people who supported Trump and now have loved ones who were deported. We don't think "but I didn't think he meant me...". We know everyone who is not a "real American", white cisgender is a target by MAGA.

[Anonymous]

If there’s one thing Trump has taught me, it’s that pedophilia is a much more common sickness than I realized. The number of rapists and pedophiles in his orbit is shocking. And it keeps exposing how frequently these people are republicans.

So, yeah, if you tell me you like Trump, I’m going to assume you are a pedophile and/ or a white supremacist. Neither of which I want to spend a minute of my life with.

if you can’t recognize or don’t care that he’s corrupt, an abuser, a racist, a misogynist, and a fraud, the I’m going to assume you are too. Get out of my life now.

[Anonymous]

I grew up in a republican household and as I started leaning Democrat, we had healthy political debates. It never would have occurred to me to drop a friend over politics. However, we are at a crossroads in history where Trump is threatening our democracy itself. He is following Project 2025 like a handbook. He same right out and said he hates his enemy at Kirk’s memorial and is using the DOJ to punish his opponents. He is clearly guilty in the Epstein files. He told the UN assembly that their countries are going to hell and he is the only one who knows how to run a country. Pay close attention to his wild accusations - they are most certainly confessions. The man is completely unhinged and is damaging our country beyond repair. People like you OP elevated him to this office and cheered him on. Perhaps you didn’t support him because you’re racist or homophobic or misogynistic (yes women ban be misogynistic) or perhaps you were stupidly fooled by his cons and propaganda. Either way, unless you now say you regret it, I cannot be friends with someone who helped create this crisis and the potential downfall of our democracy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Before Trump, absolutely not. I come from a very conservative extended family and live in a red state. I grew up Christian, and I am still a Christian. Because of this, I could always understand the R point of view, especially on abortion. Even if I didn’t agree with them, I understood. So I never judged anyone for voting R.

Trump changed everything. It is no longer about politics. At all. Anyone who still supports him and makes excuses for him is simply not someone I want to spend time with. Our values, morals, and ethics are not the same. I have no respect whatsoever for anyone who still supports him. He is a racist, misogynistic pedophile. He is a cheater, abuser, and con man. If you are still in denial of this, then I don’t even know what to tell you. It is all right there in front of your eyes. You are choosing not to see it.

Listen to your daughter.

I can relate and agree 100%.

Yes. This.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who supports Trump after Jan 6 and after he pardoned all the January 6 criminals is a cult member.