Red Piller

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Anonymous wrote:PP that was a vivid depiction of I’m sure is reality for some men. But that doesn’t justify responding to that reality with hatred toward women.

Thanks, and I agree. Most of these men are just frustrated and angry at the injustice of the universe while they go through an awakening. For example, they learn that their dinner dates often texted other men for hookups afterwards. They are not misogynists. Most of incel Elliot Rodger's murder victims were men.

Red Pill men eventually learn that the women who invited them in for coffee don't actually want coffee. They also learn that the surest sign that a woman will sleep with them is when she says "I'm not going to sleep with you!"

Dating can be exhausting and demoralizing. Women run a small risk of a bad violent outcome. But men run a large risk of paying for flakes and dinner whores. It is like death by a thousand cuts. There is a lot to hate.

Of course, some men are just aggrieved and entitled butthurt losers. They are not just angry at women; they are angry at minorities, immigrants, gays, Jews, and the globalist conspiracy to deny their access to sex.

Huh? yes it IS misogyny to act like you own a woman’s attention just because you took her to dinner. She is perfectly free to do whatever she wants after, as are you. You were under no obligation to pay for dinner. Characterizing a woman’s behavior like this as an “injustice” is absolutely misogynistic. Characterizing women as always lying about their sexual intentions is misogynistic. Drawing an equivalency between RAPE and … checks notes … paying for dinner is misogynistic. Calling women who don’t behave like you wish “whores” is misogynistic.

anyway thanks for the reminder to run at the slightest mention of any red pill crap.

So, what should we call women who do the things that you’ve mentioned?

you may call this figment of your misogynistic imagination whatever you want. But don’t expect me to stick around to hear it! Gl on your “dating journey.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP that was a vivid depiction of I’m sure is reality for some men. But that doesn’t justify responding to that reality with hatred toward women. The reality is no one is entitled a partner. If one’s dating experience isn’t what they like it to be, the healthy response is to modify one’s expectations or appeal, not hate an entire gender.

Not the PP, but no one is talking about hatred. What we are talking about is how many men feel like “the system” is stacked against them and that many women will treat them like an atm. It’s not about hating those women, it’s about avoiding them in your dating journey.

I cannot even express what a massive loser I would think a man was if he told me that “women treat men like ATMs and I have had to avoid those women on my dating journey.” Runnnnn girl!

Just means they have nothing else to offer.
Men: “Wah, I want a traditional woman who will stay home and take care of the house”
Also men: “wah women only ever treat me as an atm, can’t she pay for her own stuff?!”

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve shared this on here before, but I would tell him! Very specifically why. I read a thread from men in what turned them away from the red pill lifestyle, and more than one man said when they realized how their views were making women feel (aka disgusted by them), it caused them to do some introspection and ultimately led a few away from it.

These men are taking “dating” advice from men who aren’t even successful at dating. They are consuming content they think makes them attractive to women, but it’s only really (marginally) attractive to other men.

So yes, tell him.

Huh. yes, this is a good test of character. If he can stand to hear “Hey, when you talk about it women that way, it’s upsetting to me” and take that on board fairly, then he may be worth keeping around.

Oh no. Still kick his ass to the curb. We aren’t here to fix project boys who aren’t yet men. But maybe hearing it will bring about some change within him. But HE has to do the work.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve shared this on here before, but I would tell him! Very specifically why. I read a thread from men in what turned them away from the red pill lifestyle, and more than one man said when they realized how their views were making women feel (aka disgusted by them), it caused them to do some introspection and ultimately led a few away from it.

These men are taking “dating” advice from men who aren’t even successful at dating. They are consuming content they think makes them attractive to women, but it’s only really (marginally) attractive to other men.

So yes, tell him.

Huh. yes, this is a good test of character. If he can stand to hear “Hey, when you talk about it women that way, it’s upsetting to me” and take that on board fairly, then he may be worth keeping around.

Oh no. Still kick his ass to the curb. We aren’t here to fix project boys who aren’t yet men. But maybe hearing it will bring about some change within him. But HE has to do the work.

Agree. If he is older than 25 then bye boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m realizing that the man I’ve been dating for the past 4 months is a red piller. He has crappy views about women. he frequently finds a way to say negative things about women compared to men. he feels oppressed by women. I’m over it. Normally I would have a talk with someone I’ve been seeing this long and explain why I’m no longer interested.

For the first time ever I’m so repulsed, I just want to block him. Is ghosting wrong in this situation?

There are many things that women do and many of their views that I disagree with. Having said then I love women. I need them in my life. And hopefully women need us as well. Together we enjoy life, create memories, raise kids, have great sex etc.

Red pillers are a breed of their own. There are women who are red pillers as well. This is all about $$$$. The people pushing these extreme views about genders are looking for clicks and likes which they hope can turn into dollars.

So yes dump him fast. It's okay if he has issues with some of the views that women have. But hating them for it is too extreme.

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I think you have no duty to this guy but I’m not sure ghosting is the safest option.

I would send a text that says you are ending the relationship for personal reasons, and you wish him well, but you are going to part ways. And then stop responding. I wouldn’t block him so you know if he gets aggressive or scary, but just don’t respond.

[Anonymous]

The Venn diagram of men who call women “harpies” and “gold diggers” and the men who complain about feminism causing the male loneliness epidemic is a circle.

Avoid these men at all costs. They don’t respect women, and it’s not your job to teach them how to be normal human beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Venn diagram of men who call women “harpies” and “gold diggers” and the men who complain about feminism causing the male loneliness epidemic is a circle.

Avoid these men at all costs. They don’t respect women, and it’s not your job to teach them how to be normal human beings.

And men, if you encounter women who speak like those in this thread, run! You’ll never see the end of their demands and entitlements.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the harpies will hate this but you need to assess the nature of the red pill comments/beliefs. If it’s that women should stay home, be subservient to men and have babies, and that does not fit with your worldview, you have every right to bow out.

However, if his red pill beliefs are along the lines of being wary of women at the early stages so he is not used for free meals and entertainment, that’s entirely different. That’s virtually every man’s lived experience. Now, you can still bail if you want, but that might be premature where he’s only seeking to protect himself.

Ew no. If a boyfriend even tried to suggest his default was to view women as gold diggers, that is even worse than having some traditional beliefs about women and families. You can be a perfectly good person if your preference is to have a SAHM for your kids and you are seeking a woman who feels the same - not my thing but many couples agree on this. having a grudge against supposed “gold diggers” that you feel free to express to your new GF is totally different. and gross.

Golddigger has entered the chat.

ha you wish. In actual fact my xDH mooched off me for years paying zero joint expenses and now has not contributed a single cent to our kid’s expenses post divorce. Is that the kind of gold digger you are referring to?

Are you going on dates solely to get fed or entertained? Then yes.

This isn’t about me. It’s about a man who rants about women being gold diggers or expressing resentment about having paid for dates or some paranoid need to project himself from gold diggers. BIG red flag.

very different from a man saying something like “wow dating really got expensive for me - I always felt like I had to pay so I ended up cutting down on the number of dates or doing coffee.” then we could have an interesting discussion about gender roles we both feel pressured to conform to.

You are crazy. There are constantly posts here from women who are offended and will boot guys who don't pay for everything when they first start dating. That is gross, entitled behavior. I am a feminist. I see no problem with a guy being resentful at the dating scene given how prevalent this attitude is. You expect veiled, indirect communication that dances around the subject. That is not how adults should communicate. Two adults meeting to date should share costs. One individual should not be expected to bear the entire cost. It is so obvious that it is sick that women argue against this. The person with the penis does not owe the other party.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the harpies will hate this but you need to assess the nature of the red pill comments/beliefs. If it’s that women should stay home, be subservient to men and have babies, and that does not fit with your worldview, you have every right to bow out.

However, if his red pill beliefs are along the lines of being wary of women at the early stages so he is not used for free meals and entertainment, that’s entirely different. That’s virtually every man’s lived experience. Now, you can still bail if you want, but that might be premature where he’s only seeking to protect himself.

Ew no. If a boyfriend even tried to suggest his default was to view women as gold diggers, that is even worse than having some traditional beliefs about women and families. You can be a perfectly good person if your preference is to have a SAHM for your kids and you are seeking a woman who feels the same - not my thing but many couples agree on this. having a grudge against supposed “gold diggers” that you feel free to express to your new GF is totally different. and gross.

Golddigger has entered the chat.

ha you wish. In actual fact my xDH mooched off me for years paying zero joint expenses and now has not contributed a single cent to our kid’s expenses post divorce. Is that the kind of gold digger you are referring to?

Are you going on dates solely to get fed or entertained? Then yes.

I always hear men complain about being used to get fed, but they all suggest dinner dates. There are dates beyond just going to dinner.

It’s just so weird to ask a woman to dinner, she decides you don’t click, then you complain about being used for food. You don’t have to provide food. I have a first date next weekend going to free music at a park. There are other options.

You know why they arrange dinner dates? Because women expect it. If a guy suggests something simpler or cheaper, women judge it. Am I right? Too many women feel they are entitled to be treated like a princess and that that it what indicates a great guy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the harpies will hate this but you need to assess the nature of the red pill comments/beliefs. If it’s that women should stay home, be subservient to men and have babies, and that does not fit with your worldview, you have every right to bow out.

However, if his red pill beliefs are along the lines of being wary of women at the early stages so he is not used for free meals and entertainment, that’s entirely different. That’s virtually every man’s lived experience. Now, you can still bail if you want, but that might be premature where he’s only seeking to protect himself.

Ew no. If a boyfriend even tried to suggest his default was to view women as gold diggers, that is even worse than having some traditional beliefs about women and families. You can be a perfectly good person if your preference is to have a SAHM for your kids and you are seeking a woman who feels the same - not my thing but many couples agree on this. having a grudge against supposed “gold diggers” that you feel free to express to your new GF is totally different. and gross.

Golddigger has entered the chat.

ha you wish. In actual fact my xDH mooched off me for years paying zero joint expenses and now has not contributed a single cent to our kid’s expenses post divorce. Is that the kind of gold digger you are referring to?

Are you going on dates solely to get fed or entertained? Then yes.

I always hear men complain about being used to get fed, but they all suggest dinner dates. There are dates beyond just going to dinner.

It’s just so weird to ask a woman to dinner, she decides you don’t click, then you complain about being used for food. You don’t have to provide food. I have a first date next weekend going to free music at a park. There are other options.

You know why they arrange dinner dates? Because women expect it. If a guy suggests something simpler or cheaper, women judge it. Am I right? Too many women feel they are entitled to be treated like a princess and that that it what indicates a great guy.

If men want a trad wife who won’t work then yes, that type of woman will expect everything paid for. Part of the dating contract. If they want a partner, those women don’t mind coffee or ice cream dates. Those women look at dating as getting to know each other and seeing if you enjoy their company. If you want a transactional marriage/relationship, dating is going to be just like that. You could simply choose to date women who want equality, but they also expect you to raise your kids, parent them, do household chores etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m realizing that the man I’ve been dating for the past 4 months is a red piller. He has crappy views about women. he frequently finds a way to say negative things about women compared to men. he feels oppressed by women. I’m over it. Normally I would have a talk with someone I’ve been seeing this long and explain why I’m no longer interested.

For the first time ever I’m so repulsed, I just want to block him. Is ghosting wrong in this situation?

There are many things that women do and many of their views that I disagree with. Having said then I love women. I need them in my life. And hopefully women need us as well. Together we enjoy life, create memories, raise kids, have great sex etc.

Red pillers are a breed of their own. There are women who are red pillers as well. This is all about $$$$. The people pushing these extreme views about genders are looking for clicks and likes which they hope can turn into dollars.

So yes dump him fast. It's okay if he has issues with some of the views that women have. But hating them for it is too extreme.

Dude you lost me at your characterization of the views that “women have.” Any man who talks like that is an immediate no way from me. Women are individuals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the harpies will hate this but you need to assess the nature of the red pill comments/beliefs. If it’s that women should stay home, be subservient to men and have babies, and that does not fit with your worldview, you have every right to bow out.

However, if his red pill beliefs are along the lines of being wary of women at the early stages so he is not used for free meals and entertainment, that’s entirely different. That’s virtually every man’s lived experience. Now, you can still bail if you want, but that might be premature where he’s only seeking to protect himself.

Ew no. If a boyfriend even tried to suggest his default was to view women as gold diggers, that is even worse than having some traditional beliefs about women and families. You can be a perfectly good person if your preference is to have a SAHM for your kids and you are seeking a woman who feels the same - not my thing but many couples agree on this. having a grudge against supposed “gold diggers” that you feel free to express to your new GF is totally different. and gross.

Golddigger has entered the chat.

ha you wish. In actual fact my xDH mooched off me for years paying zero joint expenses and now has not contributed a single cent to our kid’s expenses post divorce. Is that the kind of gold digger you are referring to?

Are you going on dates solely to get fed or entertained? Then yes.

This isn’t about me. It’s about a man who rants about women being gold diggers or expressing resentment about having paid for dates or some paranoid need to project himself from gold diggers. BIG red flag.

very different from a man saying something like “wow dating really got expensive for me - I always felt like I had to pay so I ended up cutting down on the number of dates or doing coffee.” then we could have an interesting discussion about gender roles we both feel pressured to conform to.

You are crazy. There are constantly posts here from women who are offended and will boot guys who don't pay for everything when they first start dating. That is gross, entitled behavior. I am a feminist. I see no problem with a guy being resentful at the dating scene given how prevalent this attitude is. You expect veiled, indirect communication that dances around the subject. That is not how adults should communicate. Two adults meeting to date should share costs. One individual should not be expected to bear the entire cost. It is so obvious that it is sick that women argue against this. The person with the penis does not owe the other party.

I’m on DCUM a LOT and no I do not see women constantly complaining men don’t pay for dinner. I’ll say it again: any man expressing resentment against women as a whole based on his perceived mistreatment on the “dating scene” is a total loser. Avoid!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the harpies will hate this but you need to assess the nature of the red pill comments/beliefs. If it’s that women should stay home, be subservient to men and have babies, and that does not fit with your worldview, you have every right to bow out.

However, if his red pill beliefs are along the lines of being wary of women at the early stages so he is not used for free meals and entertainment, that’s entirely different. That’s virtually every man’s lived experience. Now, you can still bail if you want, but that might be premature where he’s only seeking to protect himself.

Ew no. If a boyfriend even tried to suggest his default was to view women as gold diggers, that is even worse than having some traditional beliefs about women and families. You can be a perfectly good person if your preference is to have a SAHM for your kids and you are seeking a woman who feels the same - not my thing but many couples agree on this. having a grudge against supposed “gold diggers” that you feel free to express to your new GF is totally different. and gross.

Golddigger has entered the chat.

ha you wish. In actual fact my xDH mooched off me for years paying zero joint expenses and now has not contributed a single cent to our kid’s expenses post divorce. Is that the kind of gold digger you are referring to?

Are you going on dates solely to get fed or entertained? Then yes.

I always hear men complain about being used to get fed, but they all suggest dinner dates. There are dates beyond just going to dinner.

It’s just so weird to ask a woman to dinner, she decides you don’t click, then you complain about being used for food. You don’t have to provide food. I have a first date next weekend going to free music at a park. There are other options.

You know why they arrange dinner dates? Because women expect it. If a guy suggests something simpler or cheaper, women judge it. Am I right? Too many women feel they are entitled to be treated like a princess and that that it what indicates a great guy.

If men want a trad wife who won’t work then yes, that type of woman will expect everything paid for. Part of the dating contract. If they want a partner, those women don’t mind coffee or ice cream dates. Those women look at dating as getting to know each other and seeing if you enjoy their company. If you want a transactional marriage/relationship, dating is going to be just like that. You could simply choose to date women who want equality, but they also expect you to raise your kids, parent them, do household chores etc.

Very well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, the harpies will hate this but you need to assess the nature of the red pill comments/beliefs. If it’s that women should stay home, be subservient to men and have babies, and that does not fit with your worldview, you have every right to bow out.

However, if his red pill beliefs are along the lines of being wary of women at the early stages so he is not used for free meals and entertainment, that’s entirely different. That’s virtually every man’s lived experience. Now, you can still bail if you want, but that might be premature where he’s only seeking to protect himself.

Ew no. If a boyfriend even tried to suggest his default was to view women as gold diggers, that is even worse than having some traditional beliefs about women and families. You can be a perfectly good person if your preference is to have a SAHM for your kids and you are seeking a woman who feels the same - not my thing but many couples agree on this. having a grudge against supposed “gold diggers” that you feel free to express to your new GF is totally different. and gross.

Golddigger has entered the chat.

ha you wish. In actual fact my xDH mooched off me for years paying zero joint expenses and now has not contributed a single cent to our kid’s expenses post divorce. Is that the kind of gold digger you are referring to?

Are you going on dates solely to get fed or entertained? Then yes.

I always hear men complain about being used to get fed, but they all suggest dinner dates. There are dates beyond just going to dinner.

It’s just so weird to ask a woman to dinner, she decides you don’t click, then you complain about being used for food. You don’t have to provide food. I have a first date next weekend going to free music at a park. There are other options.

You know why they arrange dinner dates? Because women expect it. If a guy suggests something simpler or cheaper, women judge it. Am I right? Too many women feel they are entitled to be treated like a princess and that that it what indicates a great guy.

you have only yourself to blame if you are so unappealing that you cannot get a woman to go on a coffee date - either there is something really off with you, or you are deliberately looking for women who give express signs that they want to be “spoiled”.

Maybe it’s a class thing but the notion that a man I am interested in is constantly taken for rides by gold digging women is just funny. I think I would literally laugh if he said that.