GA dismantling ECNL in Mid-Atlantic

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Exactly…and with the age change potentially happening next year the landscape will change at every club all over again. No need to fret as a 2011 about next year yet.
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Anonymous wrote:GA is the new DA and is overshadowing ECNL. There will be a mass exodus of quality players into ga.

It hasn't happened this year because quality players are flocking to the remaining ECNL teams. Does the mass exodus start next year? Two years? We need to know so we can start planning.


This is just an opinion and not based on any facts.

2008s, 2009s and 2010s should stay in ECNL as they'll remain the dominate league for the next year or so - basically by the time they get recruited.

2011s - this is a tough group to choose. I'd lean GA though.

2012s, 2013s and younger - they should definitely go GA, GA should surpass GA as the dominate league in 3~4 years.


The rumored 2011 player movement for next year (with FVU, VDA and Arlington skimming off the top of departing teams' rosters) wouldn't support leaning GA for the 2011 age group in the DMV area. Also yet to be seen whether all the clubs in Louduon can keep GA1 or get sent to Aspire next year. But GA probably the better choice than RL at this point for 11s.


Id have to agree on the last part when I look at GA vs RL for this age. If you look at top, middle and bottom you get this.

GA
Top: SYC is 7th in the state and 3rd (of 14) in league Standings.
Middle: VRSC is 8th in state and 10th in league.
Bottom: TSJ is 24th in state and 12th in league standings.

RL
Top: Arlington is 10th in the state and 1st (of 12) in league standings.
Middle: Loudoun is 23rd in state and 6th in league standings.
Bottoms: BRYC is 49th in the state and 10th in league standings
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Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.
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Who are the top GA teams around here?
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


record/club/team/league has zero to do with if a college coach will come see a player. Coaches aren't walking around tournaments looking at random teams. The only thing that matters is that they're at an event that your team is going to, the player has reached out in advance and if they're interested they'll watch, if they're not they won't.
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


That is completely false. Colleges will come to teams if they think your kid can make a difference. Maybe that's why so many kids are in the transfer portal; they don't know how to fight for a place on the team since they've always had a winning team.
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


record/club/team/league has zero to do with if a college coach will come see a player. Coaches aren't walking around tournaments looking at random teams. The only thing that matters is that they're at an event that your team is going to, the player has reached out in advance and if they're interested they'll watch, if they're not they won't.

1000% record/club/team/league does not matter. What matters is getting the coach interested enough in advance to watch you play in person even for just 15 minutes. At that point it's completely what you do on the field while they are watching.
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


That is completely false. Colleges will come to teams if they think your kid can make a difference. Maybe that's why so many kids are in the transfer portal; they don't know how to fight for a place on the team since they've always had a winning team.



So are you saying it doesn’t matter what league you’re in?
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


record/club/team/league has zero to do with if a college coach will come see a player. Coaches aren't walking around tournaments looking at random teams. The only thing that matters is that they're at an event that your team is going to, the player has reached out in advance and if they're interested they'll watch, if they're not they won't.


So all of the college coaches watch all of the club teams equally?
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Anonymous wrote:Who are the top GA teams around here?
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


record/club/team/league has zero to do with if a college coach will come see a player. Coaches aren't walking around tournaments looking at random teams. The only thing that matters is that they're at an event that your team is going to, the player has reached out in advance and if they're interested they'll watch, if they're not they won't.


So all of the college coaches watch all of the club teams equally?

No that's not what was just said. This is why critical thinking is important. College coaches watch the PLAYERS who have sparked their interest in advance by sending them emails and video before an event. Some teams have more players who can spark interest ahead of events. Those players tend to collect together onto teams which is what makes those teams win more games. But coaches are not interested in them BECAUSE they play on winning teams. It's because they are good players who do the things needed to attract interest.

Thought experiment: If you took one of those good players from a winning team and moved them to a losing team, they would still have good highlights to send coaches and attract interest before the event, so they would still come watch them in person. Similarly, if you took a non exceptional player from a losing team and put them on the winning team, the coaches would still not be interested in watching them because their highlight reels would still not interest them. Team/club/record does not matter.
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Anonymous wrote:GA just took Charlotte Independence. The mid-Atlantic is now -2 team in the conference. Not top teams however they are making it interesting. Is this going on in any other regions?


False, CISC second ECNL team had already been removed from ECNL. That’s what caused them to leave. Now they have to deal with boys not being able to play high school and girls already going through tryouts, paying deposits, and then learning that they aren’t getting what they thought they were getting.
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


record/club/team/league has zero to do with if a college coach will come see a player. Coaches aren't walking around tournaments looking at random teams. The only thing that matters is that they're at an event that your team is going to, the player has reached out in advance and if they're interested they'll watch, if they're not they won't.


So all of the college coaches watch all of the club teams equally?

No that's not what was just said. This is why critical thinking is important. College coaches watch the PLAYERS who have sparked their interest in advance by sending them emails and video before an event. Some teams have more players who can spark interest ahead of events. Those players tend to collect together onto teams which is what makes those teams win more games. But coaches are not interested in them BECAUSE they play on winning teams. It's because they are good players who do the things needed to attract interest.

Thought experiment: If you took one of those good players from a winning team and moved them to a losing team, they would still have good highlights to send coaches and attract interest before the event, so they would still come watch them in person. Similarly, if you took a non exceptional player from a losing team and put them on the winning team, the coaches would still not be interested in watching them because their highlight reels would still not interest them. Team/club/record does not matter.


The club and club’s reputation matter. The coach’s reputation matters. Coaches also care about what clubs players come from because there’s development happening after player commits to a college.
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


record/club/team/league has zero to do with if a college coach will come see a player. Coaches aren't walking around tournaments looking at random teams. The only thing that matters is that they're at an event that your team is going to, the player has reached out in advance and if they're interested they'll watch, if they're not they won't.


So all of the college coaches watch all of the club teams equally?

No that's not what was just said. This is why critical thinking is important. College coaches watch the PLAYERS who have sparked their interest in advance by sending them emails and video before an event. Some teams have more players who can spark interest ahead of events. Those players tend to collect together onto teams which is what makes those teams win more games. But coaches are not interested in them BECAUSE they play on winning teams. It's because they are good players who do the things needed to attract interest.

Thought experiment: If you took one of those good players from a winning team and moved them to a losing team, they would still have good highlights to send coaches and attract interest before the event, so they would still come watch them in person. Similarly, if you took a non exceptional player from a losing team and put them on the winning team, the coaches would still not be interested in watching them because their highlight reels would still not interest them. Team/club/record does not matter.


The club and club’s reputation matter. The coach’s reputation matters. Coaches also care about what clubs players come from because there’s development happening after player commits to a college.


Development stops actually.

Once you’re in college you’re playing to win, not develop.
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Anonymous wrote:Parents also need to know that just because you’re in ECNL doesn’t automatically mean you’re being seen. Nobody is coming to see a 3-7-1 ECNL team over a top GA team.


record/club/team/league has zero to do with if a college coach will come see a player. Coaches aren't walking around tournaments looking at random teams. The only thing that matters is that they're at an event that your team is going to, the player has reached out in advance and if they're interested they'll watch, if they're not they won't.


So all of the college coaches watch all of the club teams equally?

No that's not what was just said. This is why critical thinking is important. College coaches watch the PLAYERS who have sparked their interest in advance by sending them emails and video before an event. Some teams have more players who can spark interest ahead of events. Those players tend to collect together onto teams which is what makes those teams win more games. But coaches are not interested in them BECAUSE they play on winning teams. It's because they are good players who do the things needed to attract interest.

Thought experiment: If you took one of those good players from a winning team and moved them to a losing team, they would still have good highlights to send coaches and attract interest before the event, so they would still come watch them in person. Similarly, if you took a non exceptional player from a losing team and put them on the winning team, the coaches would still not be interested in watching them because their highlight reels would still not interest them. Team/club/record does not matter.


The club and club’s reputation matter. The coach’s reputation matters. Coaches also care about what clubs players come from because there’s development happening after player commits to a college.


Development stops actually.

Once you’re in college you’re playing to win, not develop.


Some girls commit in junior year. Development continues with the club until they graduate and go to college.
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