If Kamala loses

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Anonymous wrote:The Democrats need to kill DEI and ID politics. They are so divisive and toxic. The Dems also need to support common goddamn sense things like getting tough on the border, getting rid of our flimsy asylum laws, and they need to stop bashing straight white males. They spend so much time trying to court minorities that they forget they need white male votes to win since they're 30% of the entire population, which is basically as much as the entire black and Hispanic votes combined. I know the latter will get a lotta howls and criticisms, but it is true based on sheer raw numbers. You simply cannot win if you keep demonizing one of the largest cohorts of voters.

Enough with bathroom issues, gender affirming care for minors, and all of these other ID issues. The economy and mass illegal immigration are way more important and what voters care about the most.

+1 I think they will move right

+1 I'm a Harris voter. I'm personally not against immigration and I hate the demonization of undocumented immigrants. That being said, it's clear that Democrats have either intentionally or unintentionally focused way too much on identity politics. They really need to look back on the Obama years. The ACA is an achievement but its benefits for working people are pretty limited. The middle class is hollowing out. What are they really doing for working people? I abhor Trump and his rhetoric, but Democrats really need to figure out a message beyond "Trump is terrible". I don't really understand what they are doing with immigration. I'm glad they don't hate immigrants, but Biden and Harris have really not had a coherent approach to it. It doesn't seem like they care?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Democrats need to kill DEI and ID politics. They are so divisive and toxic. The Dems also need to support common goddamn sense things like getting tough on the border, getting rid of our flimsy asylum laws, and they need to stop bashing straight white males. They spend so much time trying to court minorities that they forget they need white male votes to win since they're 30% of the entire population, which is basically as much as the entire black and Hispanic votes combined. I know the latter will get a lotta howls and criticisms, but it is true based on sheer raw numbers. You simply cannot win if you keep demonizing one of the largest cohorts of voters.

Enough with bathroom issues, gender affirming care for minors, and all of these other ID issues. The economy and mass illegal immigration are way more important and what voters care about the most.

+1 I think they will move right

+1 I'm a Harris voter. I'm personally not against immigration and I hate the demonization of undocumented immigrants. That being said, it's clear that Democrats have either intentionally or unintentionally focused way too much on identity politics. They really need to look back on the Obama years. The ACA is an achievement but its benefits for working people are pretty limited. The middle class is hollowing out. What are they really doing for working people? I abhor Trump and his rhetoric, but Democrats really need to figure out a message beyond "Trump is terrible". I don't really understand what they are doing with immigration. I'm glad they don't hate immigrants, but Biden and Harris have really not had a coherent approach to it. It doesn't seem like they care?

They have a message behind Trump is Terrible. You just aren’t educating yourself on what that is. Relying on So oak Media and sound bites is easier but it is your responsibility to educate yourself.

[Anonymous]

Josh Shapiro will be the 2028 nominee.
Unless Trump wins because of Virginia, and then Democrats might go left.

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Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

Plus, the Democratic Party will send their shock-troops in Antifa, DSA, BLM, and antisemite groups to burn, loot, and murder just like they did across the US in 2020.

Wow you really are looney tunes.

I mean they did setup their own lawless zone (CHAZ) in Seattle to have space to throw their temper tantrums. You can't deny it didn't exist. Democrats allow anarchy like that to happen. No one wants that trash near them..

So anarchists are democrats? News to me.

then you haven't been watching the news very much - the party's move to anarchy started with the 2020 riots, its support of Hamas against Israel, and the wide open southern border that allowed South American drug gangs to take over in Colorado, NYC, and elsewhere. this is not your Dad's Democrat party.

the riots were mostly right wingers using the Floyd protests to cause trouble. fact.

Fiction.

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The dem party needs to get it together and get professional already FFS that means having AN ACUTAL PLATFORM that's NOT "HATE TRUMP" and they need to since this will be Trumps last go around. They need to HAVE A PLAN, IDEAS, ACUTAL IDEAS. They need to stop being so immature! It's getting really embarrassing now. You can't keep running on hate and if they lose this is why they will be losing no other reason. You all know that in your heart of hearts.

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Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

Plus, the Democratic Party will send their shock-troops in Antifa, DSA, BLM, and antisemite groups to burn, loot, and murder just like they did across the US in 2020.

Wow you really are looney tunes.

I mean they did setup their own lawless zone (CHAZ) in Seattle to have space to throw their temper tantrums. You can't deny it didn't exist. Democrats allow anarchy like that to happen. No one wants that trash near them..

So anarchists are democrats? News to me.

then you haven't been watching the news very much - the party's move to anarchy started with the 2020 riots, its support of Hamas against Israel, and the wide open southern border that allowed South American drug gangs to take over in Colorado, NYC, and elsewhere. this is not your Dad's Democrat party.

the riots were mostly right wingers using the Floyd protests to cause trouble. fact.

Fiction.

Exactly. The "Mostly Peaceful Protests" lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The dem party needs to get it together and get professional already FFS that means having AN ACUTAL PLATFORM that's NOT "HATE TRUMP" and they need to since this will be Trumps last go around.

Not according to the Democrats. There will be no more elections.

[Anonymous]

OOOPPS PP here, and smart and intelligent people here. Stop trying to wing it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happens if Kamala loses? Does the Democratic Party move right or left? Who do the torches and pitchforks come for - Kamala or Biden? Does Kamala sail into the sunset never to be seen again?

Not if she loses but when she loses. No one in their right mind should vote for her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

This. Then they will continue to advocate for things like abolishing ICE, defunding the police, and using tax dollars to pay for felon’s sex change surgery and claim that people voting against them are simply racists.

These have not been in the headlines in years. Defunding the police wasn't even real but you keep perpetuating it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

Kamala is not a progressive. Enough with your BS.

And misogyny and racism are real.

You do realize she was rated as one of the most far left members in the Senate?

Vice President Kamala Harris served in the Senate between 2017 and 2021, providing a legislative record that allows her to be located along the left-right continuum that dominates legislative behavior in the Congress. Based on her roll call voting record, Harris is the second-most liberal Democratic senator to serve in the Senate in the 21st century.

Since the turn of the century, there have been 11 complete Congresses (107th through 117th), with only five months remaining in the 118th. During this period, there were 109 different Democrats who served in the Senate and cast a sufficient number of roll call votes for a reliable analysis of their ideological position.

Of these 109 Democrats, Harris has the second-most liberal voting record. This makes her slightly less liberal than Warren, but more liberal than all of the remaining 107 Democrats, and significantly more liberal than all but a handful.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4816859-kamala-harris-is-extremely-liberal-and-the-numbers-prove-it/

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Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

Plus, the Democratic Party will send their shock-troops in Antifa, DSA, BLM, and antisemite groups to burn, loot, and murder just like they did across the US in 2020.

Yup. The tolerant left will be shown again and again not to be so tolerant of people who don't share their crazy opinions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Democrats need to kill DEI and ID politics. They are so divisive and toxic. The Dems also need to support common goddamn sense things like getting tough on the border, getting rid of our flimsy asylum laws, and they need to stop bashing straight white males. They spend so much time trying to court minorities that they forget they need white male votes to win since they're 30% of the entire population, which is basically as much as the entire black and Hispanic votes combined. I know the latter will get a lotta howls and criticisms, but it is true based on sheer raw numbers. You simply cannot win if you keep demonizing one of the largest cohorts of voters.

Enough with bathroom issues, gender affirming care for minors, and all of these other ID issues. The economy and mass illegal immigration are way more important and what voters care about the most.

+1 I think they will move right

+1 I'm a Harris voter. I'm personally not against immigration and I hate the demonization of undocumented immigrants. That being said, it's clear that Democrats have either intentionally or unintentionally focused way too much on identity politics. They really need to look back on the Obama years. The ACA is an achievement but its benefits for working people are pretty limited. The middle class is hollowing out. What are they really doing for working people? I abhor Trump and his rhetoric, but Democrats really need to figure out a message beyond "Trump is terrible". I don't really understand what they are doing with immigration. I'm glad they don't hate immigrants, but Biden and Harris have really not had a coherent approach to it. It doesn't seem like they care?

The democrats need to be the party of labor. Clinton signing NAFTA gave the republicans a huge opening and the bleeding has continued. The inflation reduction act was horribly named, but democrats barely mention it even though it is one of the largest federal giveaways to blue color workers since the FDR. Instead they retreat to identity politics and then wonder why it doesn't resonate

[Anonymous]

If the Democrats simply had sane immigration policy that does not consist of open borders, sanctuary, cities, catch and release, asylum games, and amnesty, I think they could win elections for the next 50 years. But they refuse to have common sense, so.....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

This. Then they will continue to advocate for things like abolishing ICE, defunding the police, and using tax dollars to pay for felon’s sex change surgery and claim that people voting against them are simply racists.

These have not been in the headlines in years. Defunding the police wasn't even real but you keep perpetuating it!

Oh it was very real.