If Kamala loses

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Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

Unfortunately this.

This seems likely, although it would be far better for the party to shift more to the center, demphasizing identity and gender politics which relatively few people support with enthusiasm, and focus instead on reasonable roles for government, taxation which isn't confiscatory for groups which have had more success than others, and on trying to find common ground on difficult issues like immigration, entitlement reform, and foreign policy. That's the way to bring people together instead of dividing them, and is a path to potential future electoral success.

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If Kamala loses, who knows when we will be able to vote again, so the specifics of what happens to the Democratic party after it's leaders are thrown in jail (as per Trump and Putin) is anyone's guess.

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If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

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Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

I disagree. If she loses I do not believe it will be due to her gender.

She is already VP. Blaming a loss on misogyny seems like a stretch.

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Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

I don't know how you can live through the process by which Kamala received the nomination, listen to her opinion on "gender affirming" surgeries for inmates, lack of any action on immigration, and all the massive flip-flopping, and believe that her potential loss would be from misogyny. She herself is clearly an internal misogynist. Why else would she be married to Emhoff and also throw so much support behind the radical transactivist movement--which is the epitome of misogyny?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

Unfortunately this.

This seems likely, although it would be far better for the party to shift more to the center, demphasizing identity and gender politics which relatively few people support with enthusiasm, and focus instead on reasonable roles for government, taxation which isn't confiscatory for groups which have had more success than others, and on trying to find common ground on difficult issues like immigration, entitlement reform, and foreign policy. That's the way to bring people together instead of dividing them, and is a path to potential future electoral success.

Exactly this. The Dems refusal to admit that many people simply don’t vote for her (or vote for Jill Steil or decide not to vote at all) because they don’t align with her progressive agenda and policy.

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Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

People were practically begging Michelle Obama to run because her poll numbers against Trump were so high. That’s not the sign of a misogynistic society.

A woman can win the presidency. It has to be the right woman.

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Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

People were practically begging Michelle Obama to run because her poll numbers against Trump were so high. That’s not the sign of a misogynistic society.

A woman can win the presidency. It has to be the right woman.

Michelle Obama would be torn to shreds by rightwing and the MSM if she immediately ran for POTUS:
“inexperienced”
“riding her husband’s coattails”
“a nepo leader”
“another Hillary”

Get real. MO never had a chance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

People were practically begging Michelle Obama to run because her poll numbers against Trump were so high. That’s not the sign of a misogynistic society.

A woman can win the presidency. It has to be the right woman.

Trump was clearly not the right man, but he still won the presidency anyway. I'm not sure I can think of a clearer illustration of misogyny than that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

People were practically begging Michelle Obama to run because her poll numbers against Trump were so high. That’s not the sign of a misogynistic society.

A woman can win the presidency. It has to be the right woman.

Michelle Obama would be torn to shreds by rightwing and the MSM if she immediately ran for POTUS:
“inexperienced”
“riding her husband’s coattails”
“a nepo leader”
“another Hillary”

Get real. MO never had a chance.

You forgot "stupid", "incompetent", "ugly" and all kinds of other cringe usually involving her looks or some kind of sexual acts because she happens to be a POC female. I think she would be wonderful. I also think she doesn't want anything to do with politics. We're better off recruiting Tim Walz after this.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if Kamala loses? Does the Democratic Party move right or left? Who do the torches and pitchforks come for - Kamala or Biden? Does Kamala sail into the sunset never to be seen again?

If Kamala loses I hope the Democrats give a big apology to President Biden and accept responsibility for creating needless chaos and panicking resulting in the Kamala Harris candidacy. No one except President Biden has ever defeated Trump and so many people were so quick to kick him to the curb after one biased debate with biased pro-Trump media coverage. If Kamala loses this is going to go down in history as the worst betrayal of a sitting president in history. We needed Biden's leadership more than ever and I fear we are going to be stuck with Trump.

Literally no one will think this. I don't even think the Bidens will think this. It is the dumbest of all takes.

If Biden were the nominee, the election would be a foregone conclusion by now. I don't know a single Democrat who thinks otherwise. He stood absolutely no chance of winning.

How many people think that there was legitimately an internal Democratic Party plot to select Harris as a candidate, with the hopes that she'd be elected on the strength of anti-Trump sentiment, bolstered by J6 and the legal conviction? Any internal decision maker would have known full well about Biden's mental state and the fact that he wouldn't win an election. They also knew based on prior experience that Harris was unpopular and far from likely to win a primary if she was put up to vote. They canceled the primary season, so she was never put up to vote, but they also held an early debate, giving Biden plenty of time to bow out and Harris plenty of time to build a campaign.

Not clear that Harris was the desired nominee. Some wanted an open convention with Newsom as the nominee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

I don't know how you can live through the process by which Kamala received the nomination, listen to her opinion on "gender affirming" surgeries for inmates, lack of any action on immigration, and all the massive flip-flopping, and believe that her potential loss would be from misogyny. She herself is clearly an internal misogynist. Why else would she be married to Emhoff and also throw so much support behind the radical transactivist movement--which is the epitome of misogyny?

Harris was not nominated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Kamala loses, I don’t see a woman making the ballot for many years to come. This makes me really sad to think about it…but I can’t imagine either party being willing to risk the clear impact of misogyny on the outcome. (And I am not blaming the entire outcome on misogyny… but I also don’t think you can discount the connection if she loses)

If Kamala wins, she will do so badly I don't see people voting for women for many years to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will stay far left and they will blame misogyny and racism. They will refuse to believe or acknowledge people didn’t vote for her because they don’t align with progressive agenda and policy.

Unfortunately this.

This seems likely, although it would be far better for the party to shift more to the center, demphasizing identity and gender politics which relatively few people support with enthusiasm, and focus instead on reasonable roles for government, taxation which isn't confiscatory for groups which have had more success than others, and on trying to find common ground on difficult issues like immigration, entitlement reform, and foreign policy. That's the way to bring people together instead of dividing them, and is a path to potential future electoral success.

They are already running as those things.

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If Kamala loses a lot of it will have to do with the perception that she’s a puppet for groups like AIPAC. Younger voters in particular aren’t excited about a shill for Zionists who corrupt American politics to enable the slaughter of innocent women and children in Gaza.