Supreme Court stays decision to stop Virginia purge of noncitizens

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Anonymous wrote:So you think noncitizens should be voting, which they don't have the right to do? What is wrong with you?

I don't think that noncitizens should be voting, but there's no evidence that noncitizens are voting. I do think that removing citizens from the voter rolls, something that has been shown to happen as part of this "purge", with no way for them to get things corrected before the election, during the 3 months before the election when the National Voter Registration Act clearly states changes to the rolls can't be made, is wrong.

they selected "im not a us citizen" on the application

Let me say that again

THEY SELECTED "I'M NOT A US CITIZEN" ON THE APPLICATION.

Here is teh Virginia voting application:
https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/formswarehouse/veris-voter-registration/applications/VA-NVRA-1-Voter-Registration-Application-rev-5-2024-2.pdf

Show me where there is a "I am not a US citizen" checkbox. There's not.

I'm confused too, because the news on NBC4 last night showed a form where some of them did select "not a US citizen." I think it was at the DMV maybe? I'm curious what form it was too.

Here's teh VA DMV form. Again, now "I'm not a US citizen" checkbox:

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/sites/default/files/forms/dl1p.pdf

There is a box at the very top of page 1 on the left side that asks if the applicant is a US citizen and the applicant checks yes or no.

You're right, I missed that. So did these peopel check no, or not chedck it at all?

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Anonymous wrote:So you think noncitizens should be voting, which they don't have the right to do? What is wrong with you?

I don't think that noncitizens should be voting, but there's no evidence that noncitizens are voting. I do think that removing citizens from the voter rolls, something that has been shown to happen as part of this "purge", with no way for them to get things corrected before the election, during the 3 months before the election when the National Voter Registration Act clearly states changes to the rolls can't be made, is wrong.

they selected "im not a us citizen" on the application

Let me say that again

THEY SELECTED "I'M NOT A US CITIZEN" ON THE APPLICATION.

Here is teh Virginia voting application:
https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/formswarehouse/veris-voter-registration/applications/VA-NVRA-1-Voter-Registration-Application-rev-5-2024-2.pdf

Show me where there is a "I am not a US citizen" checkbox. There's not.

I'm confused too, because the news on NBC4 last night showed a form where some of them did select "not a US citizen." I think it was at the DMV maybe? I'm curious what form it was too.

I read that it was a DMV form. Given that people can change from not being a citizen to becoming one it seems like relying on old forms from the DMV would include people who are now citizens.

It also seems likely that people are going to make mistakes whether that’s checking the wrong box on the DMV form, or accidentally registering to vote because they didn’t understand the form.

If someone cannot fill out a DMV form properly and they say they are a non-citizen when they are actually a US citizen that is their problem. That is not voter disenfranchisement that is someone being stupid and incorrectly filling out a form. Removing them is 100% appropriate given that they told VA they aren’t a citizen. If they are actually a US citizen they can register using same day register on Election Day.

I could say anyone checking a box for Trump is too stupid to vote and shouldn’t be voting but I won’t.

I hope his little stint doesn’t work and the citizens get to exercise their right to vote as they should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t the Supreme Court require VA to follow federal law? I bet the vast majority of those disenfranchised are citizens. There just isn’t a problem with noncitizens trying to vote in the US. Unfortunately maga has decided to make this a theme (no caravan this year) and the Supreme Court is happy to fall in line.

No US citizen who was mistakenly removed from the rolls has been disenfranchised. Virginia allows same day registration right up to and including Election Day, 5 November this year.

If someone who is a citizen was removed they can register at early voting locations or at their own precinct on Election Day. They can then vote a provisional ballot. No one who is eligible to vote has been disenfranchised.

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Anonymous wrote:So you think noncitizens should be voting, which they don't have the right to do? What is wrong with you?

I don't think that noncitizens should be voting, but there's no evidence that noncitizens are voting. I do think that removing citizens from the voter rolls, something that has been shown to happen as part of this "purge", with no way for them to get things corrected before the election, during the 3 months before the election when the National Voter Registration Act clearly states changes to the rolls can't be made, is wrong.

they selected "im not a us citizen" on the application

Let me say that again

THEY SELECTED "I'M NOT A US CITIZEN" ON THE APPLICATION.

Here is teh Virginia voting application:
https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/formswarehouse/veris-voter-registration/applications/VA-NVRA-1-Voter-Registration-Application-rev-5-2024-2.pdf

Show me where there is a "I am not a US citizen" checkbox. There's not.

I'm confused too, because the news on NBC4 last night showed a form where some of them did select "not a US citizen." I think it was at the DMV maybe? I'm curious what form it was too.

I read that it was a DMV form. Given that people can change from not being a citizen to becoming one it seems like relying on old forms from the DMV would include people who are now citizens.

It also seems likely that people are going to make mistakes whether that’s checking the wrong box on the DMV form, or accidentally registering to vote because they didn’t understand the form.

If someone cannot fill out a DMV form properly and they say they are a non-citizen when they are actually a US citizen that is their problem. That is not voter disenfranchisement that is someone being stupid and incorrectly filling out a form. Removing them is 100% appropriate given that they told VA they aren’t a citizen. If they are actually a US citizen they can register using same day register on Election Day.

I could say anyone checking a box for Trump is too stupid to vote and shouldn’t be voting but I won’t.

I hope his little stint doesn’t work and the citizens get to exercise their right to vote as they should.

This is completely different. If you fill out the voter registration information incorrectly and say you are not a US citizen then it is completely reasonable for VA to take your word for it and remove you from the voter rolls. This is no different than someone misspelling their name on voter registration documents or leaving part of the form blank. Of course Virginia should remove people from voter rolls (or reject the voter registration application) if the information is obviously incorrect or they say they aren’t a citizen.

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Anonymous wrote:So you think noncitizens should be voting, which they don't have the right to do? What is wrong with you?

I don't think that noncitizens should be voting, but there's no evidence that noncitizens are voting. I do think that removing citizens from the voter rolls, something that has been shown to happen as part of this "purge", with no way for them to get things corrected before the election, during the 3 months before the election when the National Voter Registration Act clearly states changes to the rolls can't be made, is wrong.

they selected "im not a us citizen" on the application

Let me say that again

THEY SELECTED "I'M NOT A US CITIZEN" ON THE APPLICATION.

Here is teh Virginia voting application:
https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/formswarehouse/veris-voter-registration/applications/VA-NVRA-1-Voter-Registration-Application-rev-5-2024-2.pdf

Show me where there is a "I am not a US citizen" checkbox. There's not.

I'm confused too, because the news on NBC4 last night showed a form where some of them did select "not a US citizen." I think it was at the DMV maybe? I'm curious what form it was too.

Here's teh VA DMV form. Again, now "I'm not a US citizen" checkbox:

https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/sites/default/files/forms/dl1p.pdf

There is a box at the very top of page 1 on the left side that asks if the applicant is a US citizen and the applicant checks yes or no.

You're right, I missed that. So did these peopel check no, or not chedck it at all?

Apparently, both possibilities occurred. Some people checked no, some checked neither box.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People, this is very easy to fix on Virginia if you are a citizen. Just go to one of the early voting locations and do a same day registration. You can do the same thing at your own precinct location on Election Day, November 5th.

Why isn’t the news media publicizing this information so people get to vote for this election?

Beacuse it doesn't make headlines. Also, it's about 1,600 voters affected. Not great, but a pretty small amount if you think about it.

I hope the board of elections contacts them and tells htem to come in to early voting to register again.

There are 5,811,383 registered voters in Virginia. Youngkin only removed 1/3,632 voters. This removal is completely irrelevant to the presidential election outcome for Virginia. Biden won by 451,138 votes in 2020 and this voter purge is equal to 0.35% of these votes. This is will have absolutely no impact on who wins the state.

The issue is that he was given permission to break the federal law around the timing. All of the swing states were given the thumbs up by the corrupt SCOTUS to break the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t the Supreme Court require VA to follow federal law? I bet the vast majority of those disenfranchised are citizens. There just isn’t a problem with noncitizens trying to vote in the US. Unfortunately maga has decided to make this a theme (no caravan this year) and the Supreme Court is happy to fall in line.

No US citizen who was mistakenly removed from the rolls has been disenfranchised. Virginia allows same day registration right up to and including Election Day, 5 November this year.

If someone who is a citizen was removed they can register at early voting locations or at their own precinct on Election Day. They can then vote a provisional ballot. No one who is eligible to vote has been disenfranchised.

Forcing a us citizen to vote a provisional ballot because the governor wants to break federal law and purge these people from the rolls during the 90 day quiet period is not okay. Why do republicans think laws don’t apply to them?

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Ha ha.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t the Supreme Court require VA to follow federal law? I bet the vast majority of those disenfranchised are citizens. There just isn’t a problem with noncitizens trying to vote in the US. Unfortunately maga has decided to make this a theme (no caravan this year) and the Supreme Court is happy to fall in line.

No US citizen who was mistakenly removed from the rolls has been disenfranchised. Virginia allows same day registration right up to and including Election Day, 5 November this year.

If someone who is a citizen was removed they can register at early voting locations or at their own precinct on Election Day. They can then vote a provisional ballot. No one who is eligible to vote has been disenfranchised.

Forcing a us citizen to vote a provisional ballot because the governor wants to break federal law and purge these people from the rolls during the 90 day quiet period is not okay. Why do republicans think laws don’t apply to them?

To be fair, they apparently either are not citizens or they made an error in filling out the voter registration form by indicating that they were not citizens. So, if they are citizens, they would have had to correct any errors at some point anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t the Supreme Court require VA to follow federal law? I bet the vast majority of those disenfranchised are citizens. There just isn’t a problem with noncitizens trying to vote in the US. Unfortunately maga has decided to make this a theme (no caravan this year) and the Supreme Court is happy to fall in line.

No US citizen who was mistakenly removed from the rolls has been disenfranchised. Virginia allows same day registration right up to and including Election Day, 5 November this year.

If someone who is a citizen was removed they can register at early voting locations or at their own precinct on Election Day. They can then vote a provisional ballot. No one who is eligible to vote has been disenfranchised.

Forcing a us citizen to vote a provisional ballot because the governor wants to break federal law and purge these people from the rolls during the 90 day quiet period is not okay. Why do republicans think laws don’t apply to them?

To be fair, they apparently either are not citizens or they made an error in filling out the voter registration form by indicating that they were not citizens. So, if they are citizens, they would have had to correct any errors at some point anyway.

This isn’t true. Anyone who was a partial ID match for that voter also got purged.

So if John Smith missed the box any John Smith would get purged, even if they have different birthdates, addresses and social security numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t the Supreme Court require VA to follow federal law? I bet the vast majority of those disenfranchised are citizens. There just isn’t a problem with noncitizens trying to vote in the US. Unfortunately maga has decided to make this a theme (no caravan this year) and the Supreme Court is happy to fall in line.

No US citizen who was mistakenly removed from the rolls has been disenfranchised. Virginia allows same day registration right up to and including Election Day, 5 November this year.

If someone who is a citizen was removed they can register at early voting locations or at their own precinct on Election Day. They can then vote a provisional ballot. No one who is eligible to vote has been disenfranchised.

Forcing a us citizen to vote a provisional ballot because the governor wants to break federal law and purge these people from the rolls during the 90 day quiet period is not okay. Why do republicans think laws don’t apply to them?

To be fair, they apparently either are not citizens or they made an error in filling out the voter registration form by indicating that they were not citizens. So, if they are citizens, they would have had to correct any errors at some point anyway.

No, people who failed to check the box either way were purged within the federally-mandated quiet period.

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Anonymous wrote:So you think noncitizens should be voting, which they don't have the right to do? What is wrong with you?

no one is saying that non-citizens should vote. There is a law prohibiting non-citizens from voting. VA is purging records incredibly close to the election which is what the problem is. They are also purging a hell of a lot of citizens due to clerical errors and because it's so close to the election they will not have a chance to appeal and rectify the mistake. Do you think citizens should be denied the right to vote? What is wrong with you?

Well, that's BS. They found 8 people who should not have been purged. EIGHT. And they can reinstate their voter registration at any polling place. Personally, I'm glad that well over 1,000 non-citizens were removed from the voter rolls. Clearly, you're upset that they won't be able to vote. Noted.

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Anonymous wrote:So you think noncitizens should be voting, which they don't have the right to do? What is wrong with you?

+1000 i don't understand how people think breaking the law is reasonable now!

The issue is that people are being purged from the rolls based on suspicion, not proof, and proof has been provided that actual citizens are being purged. If you would be fine being turned away when you go to vote because someone was suspicious of your citizenship (but more realisitically suspicious that you'd vote for their less-preferred candidate), then that's an interesting position to take. If you are fine with it happening to other citizens because you're pretty sure you're not the targeted demographic, well, I've got a solid guess as to who you're voting for.

DP. More BS. The purged voters *self-identified* as NON-citizens.

The Virginia case began with an order signed by Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin, a Republican, in August that required election officials to take more aggressive steps to match residents who self-identified as noncitizens at the Department of Motor Vehicles against voter rolls and to purge those matches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People, this is very easy to fix on Virginia if you are a citizen. Just go to one of the early voting locations and do a same day registration. You can do the same thing at your own precinct location on Election Day, November 5th.

Why isn’t the news media publicizing this information so people get to vote for this election?

Beacuse it doesn't make headlines. Also, it's about 1,600 voters affected. Not great, but a pretty small amount if you think about it.

I hope the board of elections contacts them and tells htem to come in to early voting to register again.

The vast majority of that 1,600 are indeed, non-citizens and not eligible to vote. There was a handful of people who were mistakenly removed and all they have to do is go to their polling place and re-register.

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Anonymous wrote:So it can continue

https://x.com/jasonmiyaresva/status/1851626618147495997?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

This is horrific
It sets the stage for more Republican cheating

It’s only 1600 votes however we are screwed that they took this now ugh

They are deleting ineligible to vote illegals.
I can't believe how this site attracts stupid progressives that can't understand the simplest things.

+1
It really is astounding how flat-out stupid some of these posters are.