Why are ivies and other elite NE schools out, southern schools in?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.

Whatever. As if you would let your child get a hysterectomy anywhere else but home. Your point is ridiculous. It is as unlikely to be a factor in Houston TX as it is in the middle of nowhere New Hampshire.

Look, do people not understand emergencies? If my daughter is stuck in effing TX with a diseased uterus and/or ovaries, my concern is they will not actually operate and she will DIE. It isn't that simple to get her back home to Northern VA if her life is on the line.

If we can schedule it, great - yes, I would bring her home. But are people really this dense?

Never mind, don't answer that.

Histrionics. Certifiable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We went south. Our kid wanted better weather, safety and happier kids. We looked north and everyone seems weirdly competitive and miserable even on tours. The reproductive argument is so crazy will not even entertain. Just be happy if you think small northern LAC are better. I am sure your kid will find a spot. People should just focus on what makes your kid happier just listen to what they want.

more copium. ivies and other elite highly competitive schools, which just happen to all be NE except Duke and Rice, have highly competitive kids. Your kid either thinks that's an awesome thrill to dive in and be with similar mindsets, or they don't. The former is the (unhooked) kids they typically pick anyway, so yours would not likely get in. Competitive is not always toxic, it is often quite collaborative. That is why top med and law and DCUM's favorite IB wallstreet consulting all preferentially pick from elite unis and WASP lacs. The vast majority of kids who go to these schools thrive on the atmosphere and are happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.

Whatever. As if you would let your child get a hysterectomy anywhere else but home. Your point is ridiculous. It is as unlikely to be a factor in Houston TX as it is in the middle of nowhere New Hampshire.

Look, do people not understand emergencies? If my daughter is stuck in effing TX with a diseased uterus and/or ovaries, my concern is they will not actually operate and she will DIE. It isn't that simple to get her back home to Northern VA if her life is on the line.

If we can schedule it, great - yes, I would bring her home. But are people really this dense?

Never mind, don't answer that.

what? this is a nonsensical worry.

[Anonymous]

There are lots of great schools in all regions of the country. If New Yorkers can leave NYC and find happiness elsewhere during COVID, surely DMV students can look beyond the NE for great schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.

Whatever. As if you would let your child get a hysterectomy anywhere else but home. Your point is ridiculous. It is as unlikely to be a factor in Houston TX as it is in the middle of nowhere New Hampshire.

Look, do people not understand emergencies? If my daughter is stuck in effing TX with a diseased uterus and/or ovaries, my concern is they will not actually operate and she will DIE. It isn't that simple to get her back home to Northern VA if her life is on the line.

If we can schedule it, great - yes, I would bring her home. But are people really this dense?

Never mind, don't answer that.

what? this is a nonsensical worry.

Did you read the TX Supreme Court ruling on Kate Cox? Not close enough to death. That was their reasoning for allowing her to risk going septic.

Yeah, no. I do not trust that state with my daughter’s reproductive organs, pregnant or not.

[Anonymous]

We shouldn't underestimate the effect of watching videos of bouncing buxom blonde beauties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, no one is getting into Harvard or Princeton. And the backlash against liberalism, and the way some of the Ivies handled student protests in the past couple of years, is making the northeast less appealing. Good students can often get hefty merit aid at the southern state schools. Might as well save some money and try for an Ivy for grad school. (Or just relax into life in the South.)

The Ivies produce conservatives…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.

Whatever. As if you would let your child get a hysterectomy anywhere else but home. Your point is ridiculous. It is as unlikely to be a factor in Houston TX as it is in the middle of nowhere New Hampshire.

Look, do people not understand emergencies? If my daughter is stuck in effing TX with a diseased uterus and/or ovaries, my concern is they will not actually operate and she will DIE. It isn't that simple to get her back home to Northern VA if her life is on the line.

If we can schedule it, great - yes, I would bring her home. But are people really this dense?

Never mind, don't answer that.

Histrionics. Certifiable.

This.
I don't understand this whole thread. Why are people sending girls to college? What's the point? Their delicate feminine brains will be overwhelmed, and college doesn't teach anything you need to know to be a good mother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.

Whatever. As if you would let your child get a hysterectomy anywhere else but home. Your point is ridiculous. It is as unlikely to be a factor in Houston TX as it is in the middle of nowhere New Hampshire.

Look, do people not understand emergencies? If my daughter is stuck in effing TX with a diseased uterus and/or ovaries, my concern is they will not actually operate and she will DIE. It isn't that simple to get her back home to Northern VA if her life is on the line.

If we can schedule it, great - yes, I would bring her home. But are people really this dense?

Never mind, don't answer that.

This is not a real concern that you prepare for. The chances of that happening are quite slim if almost non-existent. And then the chances of getting improper medical care are also non-existent --- the only issue would be if she was pregnant and even if she was there is below a tiny percentage that she would not get normal medical care. And the chances of moving her back to VA are overwhelming. You cannot prepare for the worst case scenario when there is almost no chance it will occur.

Considering OB/GYNs are moving out of and/or just not going to these states, it IS a real concern. I don't trust my child's medical care to states that think that the Handmaid's Tale is a great vision for the future. Abortion is only part of the story. Just wait.

You can think I am a nut all you want. I hope none of your children get caught in the middle of this mess.

Right! And what if on the plane ride home, the plane is struck by lightning! Or maybe even a sharknado!

Then she’ll be caught at the crash landing site and chained to Strom Thutmond’s corpse for all eternity! The horror.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.

Whatever. As if you would let your child get a hysterectomy anywhere else but home. Your point is ridiculous. It is as unlikely to be a factor in Houston TX as it is in the middle of nowhere New Hampshire.

Look, do people not understand emergencies? If my daughter is stuck in effing TX with a diseased uterus and/or ovaries, my concern is they will not actually operate and she will DIE. It isn't that simple to get her back home to Northern VA if her life is on the line.

If we can schedule it, great - yes, I would bring her home. But are people really this dense?

Never mind, don't answer that.

Histrionics. Certifiable.

Doctors have been doing gynecological surgeries in southern hospitals for many moons. The south is not the third world.
In fact wall street companies are moving to the south. Huntsville is booming. Atlanta is booming. The economy is growing in the south. Women in the south get gynecological surgeries every day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought all of the politics of the south made it toxic, yet all of my cousins in the DMV had absolutely zero desire to shoot for ivies or any of the other elite schools in the NE. They became enamored with the lifestyle on the campuses of southern schools by watching social media vids of girls getting ready to go to to tailgates at Alabama or UGA. Other types of of events and parties on the campuses of southern schools also had tons of social media coverage. The students themselves post the videos, so all of the southern schools get tons of free marketing. I heard this was also a big trend with all of the friends of my cousins - they’re applying to southern schools. Is the whole NE school a thing of the past?

I’ve noticed the same thing. NE schools are over for the most part. International applications still keep them competitive but people from competitive areas and UC/UMC aren’t interested. Syracuse is a lot less in demand than Tulane.

ivies and other elite NE schools have 50k-65k+ applications each, every year and more than half went up again this past cycle. Zero shortage of interest. And oh, hmm lots and lots of midatlantic UMC and financially needy kids at my kid's ivy. These elite schools are not fading in popularity or demand any decade in the near future.

[Anonymous]

Antisemitism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went south. Our kid wanted better weather, safety and happier kids. We looked north and everyone seems weirdly competitive and miserable even on tours. The reproductive argument is so crazy will not even entertain. Just be happy if you think small northern LAC are better. I am sure your kid will find a spot. People should just focus on what makes your kid happier just listen to what they want.

more copium. ivies and other elite highly competitive schools, which just happen to all be NE except Duke and Rice, have highly competitive kids. Your kid either thinks that's an awesome thrill to dive in and be with similar mindsets, or they don't. The former is the (unhooked) kids they typically pick anyway, so yours would not likely get in. Competitive is not always toxic, it is often quite collaborative. That is why top med and law and DCUM's favorite IB wallstreet consulting all preferentially pick from elite unis and WASP lacs. The vast majority of kids who go to these schools thrive on the atmosphere and are happy.

This has been rehashed a million times on here. Top law and med schools do not pick from elite schools. In fact, going to these schools makes getting into med school (and probably law) even harder. Why go to a miserably competitive school when you can be happy, great weather, great sports and get a med school boost?

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Ivies aren't out. I think more kids are realizing they are highly unlikely to get in so making other plans. All the kids I know are interested in NE for various reasons. They hail from dmv, TX, NOLA and Indiana.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went south. Our kid wanted better weather, safety and happier kids. We looked north and everyone seems weirdly competitive and miserable even on tours. The reproductive argument is so crazy will not even entertain. Just be happy if you think small northern LAC are better. I am sure your kid will find a spot. People should just focus on what makes your kid happier just listen to what they want.

more copium. ivies and other elite highly competitive schools, which just happen to all be NE except Duke and Rice, have highly competitive kids. Your kid either thinks that's an awesome thrill to dive in and be with similar mindsets, or they don't. The former is the (unhooked) kids they typically pick anyway, so yours would not likely get in. Competitive is not always toxic, it is often quite collaborative. That is why top med and law and DCUM's favorite IB wallstreet consulting all preferentially pick from elite unis and WASP lacs. The vast majority of kids who go to these schools thrive on the atmosphere and are happy.

Duke, Rice, Emory, Vandy, UNC, Wash and Lee, Davidson etc plenty of great schools in the south.