Why are ivies and other elite NE schools out, southern schools in?

Anonymous
Not at all the trend at our DMV public school. Very few kids going south. Popular schools are Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Northeastern, Northwestern, CU Boulder, NESCACs, Ivies.

Tulane is the exception—the one Southern school with a bunch of kids attending.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not at all the trend at our DMV public school. Very few kids going south. Popular schools are Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Northeastern, Northwestern, CU Boulder, NESCACs, Ivies.

Tulane is the exception—the one Southern school with a bunch of kids attending.


Which goes to show why you can't rely on anecdotes.

Tulane saw a 3,500 drop in applications this past year (31,500 to 28,000), so more or fewer kids attending from year-to-year is meaningless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My two cents is that the Ivy’s have become so competitive that the likes of Vanderbilt and UF compared to NYU and Tufts become a quality of life for many. This just as an example. And the boom of Austin, Charlotte and remote work add even more to the appeal of say Georgia. But it isn’t at the expense of Ivys. If you cannot get into Ivy why not enjoy the college life and end up in same place. And for those saying they would never send their daughters down south because of abortion laws, are you really expecting that to be as issue for them in college? Can they not come home?


Don’t reward the bad behavior of ass-backwards states!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Even if you were right about this (which you aren't) it shouldn't matter, unless all you care about is keeping up with the Jones. People should find the right fit school for their kid. This is an important decision and not a time to buy into fads.


Yeah I don't really get the obsession with trends on this site. If your kid has the stats to be seriously thinking about the Ivies, they've got a lot of choices. Different kids are going to want different things, and they're going to end up in different places. When I was looking, I specifically wanted a cold state (I grew up in the south), so I focused on those. My friends mostly wanted warm beachy places, so they focused on those. We were all happy in the end.


I do think what OP is saying is a trend. Going South not North. But it is not going to put anyone out of business. What it doe smean is that the elite southern schools are tougher to get in --- Vandy, Emory, WashU, Duke -- and publics like UT, UGA, and UF.

For the most part, the people going to these schools are not really worried about the issues related to abortion. Kids could always come home. That is the advice those kids are getting.


Wash U is now in the south??


I am PP and I think of it that way. That is the feel of the place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.


Whatever. As if you would let your child get a hysterectomy anywhere else but home. Your point is ridiculous. It is as unlikely to be a factor in Houston TX as it is in the middle of nowhere New Hampshire.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Not at all the trend at our DMV public school. Very few kids going south. Popular schools are Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Northeastern, Northwestern, CU Boulder, NESCACs, Ivies.

Tulane is the exception—the one Southern school with a bunch of kids attending.


Which goes to show why you can't rely on anecdotes.

Tulane saw a 3,500 drop in applications this past year (31,500 to 28,000), so more or fewer kids attending from year-to-year is meaningless.


OK? My point wasn’t that Tulane is particularly popular or more or less popular than usual but rather that, counter to OP’s observation, it’s the only Southern school that was popular at our HS this year.
Anonymous
They aren’t. My kid’s Ivy had 50,000 Applicants for 1,700 Freshmen spots and RD 3%.

I don’t think that’s out.

That’s people not being able to get in.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We went south. Our kid wanted better weather, safety and happier kids. We looked north and everyone seems weirdly competitive and miserable even on tours. The reproductive argument is so crazy will not even entertain. Just be happy if you think small northern LAC are better. I am sure your kid will find a spot. People should just focus on what makes your kid happier just listen to what they want.


Better weather? lol My kids went north. We go to Maine or California to escape the awful heat and humidity. The south is hot until Thanksgiving many places.

Much prefer some crisp Fall air and even some snow!

90s and humidity
Anonymous
My kid wanted to like schools in Boston, but none of them had the type of campus they wanted. They wanted to like UVM, but the winter was too much. The flagships from PA south have a different feel. California would be an option, but we constantly hear about the issues with UCs and my kid doesn't want to be that far from home. This isn't that complicated.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Not again.


+1000 Is this just the same OP regurgitating this thread by presenting a different scenario?


+1

Yawn. Troll.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought all of the politics of the south made it toxic, yet all of my cousins in the DMV had absolutely zero desire to shoot for ivies or any of the other elite schools in the NE. They became enamored with the lifestyle on the campuses of southern schools by watching social media vids of girls getting ready to go to to tailgates at Alabama or UGA. Other types of of events and parties on the campuses of southern schools also had tons of social media coverage. The students themselves post the videos, so all of the southern schools get tons of free marketing. I heard this was also a big trend with all of the friends of my cousins - they’re applying to southern schools. Is the whole NE school a thing of the past?


No you are stupid fixed it for you
No one with a brain from an elite family is sending their kid south.
Anonymous
Ivies are not pretty people having parties and big football games positioning. Ivy females are posting fewer makeup, hair, clothes, lifestyle selfies.
Volvo vs Mustang.
Anonymous
This northeast bashing is backed up by the data. Ivies, SLACs, the Boston schools have seen record applications. Once in a while you might get a drop off at a particular school that could be explained by something, like going from TO to test mandatory. Or stuff that is happening at colleges like American University. But in general, the northeast schools are still the most coveted.

Also, for every alleged student who crossed off the northeast, there are 4 new ones coming from Asia.
Anonymous
The NE schools no longer offer an education. It’s now all toxic indoctrination.

The remaining real schools are in the South.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This northeast bashing is backed up by the data. Ivies, SLACs, the Boston schools have seen record applications. Once in a while you might get a drop off at a particular school that could be explained by something, like going from TO to test mandatory. Or stuff that is happening at colleges like American University. But in general, the northeast schools are still the most coveted.

Also, for every alleged student who crossed off the northeast, there are 4 new ones coming from Asia.


What is happening at American U?
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