Why are ivies and other elite NE schools out, southern schools in?

[Anonymous]

I thought all of the politics of the south made it toxic, yet all of my cousins in the DMV had absolutely zero desire to shoot for ivies or any of the other elite schools in the NE. They became enamored with the lifestyle on the campuses of southern schools by watching social media vids of girls getting ready to go to to tailgates at Alabama or UGA. Other types of of events and parties on the campuses of southern schools also had tons of social media coverage. The students themselves post the videos, so all of the southern schools get tons of free marketing. I heard this was also a big trend with all of the friends of my cousins - they’re applying to southern schools. Is the whole NE school a thing of the past?

[Anonymous]

Not again.

[Anonymous]

I mean, they can do what they want, but I won't send my girls to the red states. And no, it's not because I think they have loose morals or whatever - I am genuinely worried about emergencies with their reproductive organs that docs in those states won't touch for fear of lawsuit. My soon to be freshman has already been told she might need a hysterectomy if other things don't work to fix her numerous issues.

So, for those heading off to these states, I hope for the best and that worst case scenario DOESN'T hit you.

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure Harvard and Yale aren’t crying in their beers over the loss of a few kids vapid enough to be swayed by a few tailgate videos.

But considering OP is likely a repeat-offender troll, those “cousins” are probably just as fake as the supposed flight from elite New England schools. Not sure what they’re getting out of these endless tiresome attempts to whip up a narrative.

[Anonymous]

Maybe kids want diversity. MIT is now 47% asian and only 5% black. That type of excellence comes with a culture and grind that’s just not very appealing to many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not again.

+1000 Is this just the same OP regurgitating this thread by presenting a different scenario?

[Anonymous]

Don't agree with your premise Op

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought all of the politics of the south made it toxic, yet all of my cousins in the DMV had absolutely zero desire to shoot for ivies or any of the other elite schools in the NE. They became enamored with the lifestyle on the campuses of southern schools by watching social media vids of girls getting ready to go to to tailgates at Alabama or UGA. Other types of of events and parties on the campuses of southern schools also had tons of social media coverage. The students themselves post the videos, so all of the southern schools get tons of free marketing. I heard this was also a big trend with all of the friends of my cousins - they’re applying to southern schools. Is the whole NE school a thing of the past?

Seriously? You are spinning this up again?? Get a life... or a job... or a clue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought all of the politics of the south made it toxic, yet all of my cousins in the DMV had absolutely zero desire to shoot for ivies or any of the other elite schools in the NE. They became enamored with the lifestyle on the campuses of southern schools by watching social media vids of girls getting ready to go to to tailgates at Alabama or UGA. Other types of of events and parties on the campuses of southern schools also had tons of social media coverage. The students themselves post the videos, so all of the southern schools get tons of free marketing. I heard this was also a big trend with all of the friends of my cousins - they’re applying to southern schools. Is the whole NE school a thing of the past?

I’ve noticed the same thing. NE schools are over for the most part. International applications still keep them competitive but people from competitive areas and UC/UMC aren’t interested. Syracuse is a lot less in demand than Tulane.

[Anonymous]

These don't seem like the same groups of students. I agree that southern big schools are gaining popularity - but I don't think they are pulling from the NE Ivy or bust crowd (those are more likely to try a Vandy/Duke/UCLA/Berkeley/USC alternative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe kids want diversity. MIT is now 47% asian and only 5% black. That type of excellence comes with a culture and grind that’s just not very appealing to many.

MIT has always been a hard and nerdy school even before Asian students arrived there. And I'm pretty sure the students who do go there now--whether they are black, asian, white, or rainbow colored--are there because they want the nerd culture and the difficult science. MIT has never tried to compete with the party schools. The original post pitting these schools against each other is downright puzzling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought all of the politics of the south made it toxic, yet all of my cousins in the DMV had absolutely zero desire to shoot for ivies or any of the other elite schools in the NE. They became enamored with the lifestyle on the campuses of southern schools by watching social media vids of girls getting ready to go to to tailgates at Alabama or UGA. Other types of of events and parties on the campuses of southern schools also had tons of social media coverage. The students themselves post the videos, so all of the southern schools get tons of free marketing. I heard this was also a big trend with all of the friends of my cousins - they’re applying to southern schools. Is the whole NE school a thing of the past?

I’ve noticed the same thing. NE schools are over for the most part. International applications still keep them competitive but people from competitive areas and UC/UMC aren’t interested. Syracuse is a lot less in demand than Tulane.

IME Tulane has always been more popular than Syracuse.... Weird comparison.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s a few factors…
- NYC and Wall Street had it’s hey day during SaTC/popular media and the region is less desirable as whole
- Tech is so spread out in many different regions around and there has been a large shift from finance to tech/engineering in the last 20 years
- Covid causes a mass exodus from some of the major, big cities in the NE
- A lot of the big NE cities are not quite as nice to live, with increasing homeless issues and expensive rents

[Anonymous]

I mean, no one is getting into Harvard or Princeton. And the backlash against liberalism, and the way some of the Ivies handled student protests in the past couple of years, is making the northeast less appealing. Good students can often get hefty merit aid at the southern state schools. Might as well save some money and try for an Ivy for grad school. (Or just relax into life in the South.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought all of the politics of the south made it toxic, yet all of my cousins in the DMV had absolutely zero desire to shoot for ivies or any of the other elite schools in the NE. They became enamored with the lifestyle on the campuses of southern schools by watching social media vids of girls getting ready to go to to tailgates at Alabama or UGA. Other types of of events and parties on the campuses of southern schools also had tons of social media coverage. The students themselves post the videos, so all of the southern schools get tons of free marketing. I heard this was also a big trend with all of the friends of my cousins - they’re applying to southern schools. Is the whole NE school a thing of the past?

I’ve noticed the same thing. NE schools are over for the most part. International applications still keep them competitive but people from competitive areas and UC/UMC aren’t interested. Syracuse is a lot less in demand than Tulane.

IME Tulane has always been more popular than Syracuse.... Weird comparison.

I applied for both in HS and was rejected from Syracuse.