Whose Responsibility?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The counselor shouldn’t have placed blame with your daughter. It’s very irritating and low class when employees do this. She should have said, “Oh no! I will get them the transcript right away. No worries! So sorry that happened.”

So the HS counselor ranks with maybe an automated AI Amazon chatbot? The dismissiveness here of a highly educated professional whose position exists to _support_students_, and who is grossly underpaid for the amount of work and stress involved, is breathtaking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting nobody is mentioning UNC here. A SLAC would have dealt with this quickly by picking up the phone and calling the school counselor. DD might not have even known about it.

With big public universities, you get what you pay for.

I’m all for SLACs - I went to one and I expect there’s a strong chance my kid will go to one - but that’s a dumb statement. It might be that the college would contact the HS but I think it’s more likely they’d contact the student. It’s the student’s responsibility. HS need permission to release info to a college and if the student hadn’t properly provided it (which sounds like may well have been the case), it would bounce back to the student anyway, so might as well go directly to the source.

And either way, UNC *did* have a system in place that worked. They held (not rescinded) the placement and contacted the student. The problem was resolved (it sounds like relatively quickly) and a lesson was learned about double-checking submissions and maybe even following up to confirm successful completion. Done.

IDK my friends son went to a SLAC, his dad died the 1st month there. He went home, went to funeral, went back to school and never left his room for 2 months. The SLAC never noticed, didn't check on him, he literally had food delivered. His roommate finally called my friend, the mom, AFTER 2 MONTHS.

OTOH, her other son who was a sophomore was at MD state college, his professors gave him an alternate schedule for his projects to be turned in, a counselor visited him a few times, the RA check on him weekly, he received information about a support group.

As someone who lost her mom freshman year, this hurts my heart. Though my large Ivy (Cornell) did no better back in the day. I’m impressed that MD did better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The HS is lying.

The way the process works is UNC Chapel Hill requests the final transcript from the HS and they comply. Guidance counselors sent the transcript to the wrong state school campus all the time.

This is easily proven by the fact that Chapel Hill has the intial transcript. There would be no explanation for the change.

Your DD didn't 'mis select' anything.

+1 I can't believe it took 3 pages to get here. If UNC has the first transcript, they come back and ask for the last transcript. OP's DD isn't even involved at this point. It's all between the HS and the college.

The only explanation is the counselor is lying to cover his ass.

This is not the way it worked for my child. He had to request a final transcript be sent to the school he was attending. I assume the process is pretty automated. Student selects the school which has a code. HS electronically sends the form as requested. There is no one putting the transcript in an envelope and noticing that an earlier one went to a different campus.

[Anonymous]

Never buy band candy from that HS again.
Tell DD you are not giving her any gifts for rest of year for being so careless not to double check.
There. Job done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at the posters saying NBD.

They didn't notice that the mid year transcript and final transcript were different colleges? What HS is this?

Maybe she accepted a waitlist later. Maybe she got a scholarship later. She’s an adult and it was her fault.

You don't know if it's her fault. You only know the school aid it was her fault, not theirs. And only they have access to the ways to verify that claim. You do know that people lie, right?

Because only their story makes sense in context of what happened. There was a drop down menu. One school said UNC chapel hill and one UNC Wilmington. Had the transcript bern sent to Christopher Newport…that mistake would be less obvious who did it. The transcripts are sent digitally based precisely how the form is filled out. This was human error- on your kid’s part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The HS is lying.

The way the process works is UNC Chapel Hill requests the final transcript from the HS and they comply. Guidance counselors sent the transcript to the wrong state school campus all the time.

This is easily proven by the fact that Chapel Hill has the intial transcript. There would be no explanation for the change.

Your DD didn't 'mis select' anything.

+1 I can't believe it took 3 pages to get here. If UNC has the first transcript, they come back and ask for the last transcript. OP's DD isn't even involved at this point. It's all between the HS and the college.

The only explanation is the counselor is lying to cover his ass.

Wrong: fcps- kid had to request the transcript to be sent. And in this case, OP literally said her kid filled out the request.

[Anonymous]

Consult an attorney.

[Anonymous]

Something similar happened to my son and the email let him know his college didn't get his transcript. He called and got it fixed.

Do you know what he learned from this? He learned to screen shot everything important from now on. I always do because my employer is known for very large errors and omissions.

Focus on what your daughter can learn from this. My suggestion is to do what I do. Screen shot everything with the time/date at the bottom. My entire desktop is various screenshots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at the posters saying NBD.

They didn't notice that the mid year transcript and final transcript were different colleges? What HS is this?

OP, it's quite possible your DD selected the wrong item on the drop down menu, but it would be nice if the system gave her some sort of confirmation of school selected and send date. I hate it when there is an important item to do and the software or web interface gives you no idea whether your request went through or whether it was acted upon.

+1 I get anxious about things like this and end up taking screenshots just in case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HS is lying.

The way the process works is UNC Chapel Hill requests the final transcript from the HS and they comply. Guidance counselors sent the transcript to the wrong state school campus all the time.

This is easily proven by the fact that Chapel Hill has the intial transcript. There would be no explanation for the change.

Your DD didn't 'mis select' anything.

+1 I can't believe it took 3 pages to get here. If UNC has the first transcript, they come back and ask for the last transcript. OP's DD isn't even involved at this point. It's all between the HS and the college.

The only explanation is the counselor is lying to cover his ass.

This is not the way it worked for my child. He had to request a final transcript be sent to the school he was attending. I assume the process is pretty automated. Student selects the school which has a code. HS electronically sends the form as requested. There is no one putting the transcript in an envelope and noticing that an earlier one went to a different campus.

+1 My kid had to go into the form and request the final transcript to be sent. Initial transcripts were sent through the Common App, the final transcript was in a different form with the one school they decided to attend. My kid is the one who has to identify which of the schools he was admitted to he is planning on attending and wants the final transcript sent.

[Anonymous]

They told you that your daughter screwed up, blame her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was it flagged in her portal? If I had accepted somewhere I would certainly try to doublecheck they had all my paperwork.

This actually happened to someone I know where in college the school never sent the transcript and they got rejected from a study abroad program and once they figured it out it was too late so they had to find another program.

I told my daughter to check portal to make sure had transcript IB Diploma info etc. i called IB and she called the college. You can’t just be passive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just let it go op. FWIW I believe the school. It’s not like they would need to make up a story vs just saying oops our mistake we will fix it- they fix it either way. Your daughter is filling out literally hundreds of forms right now and it’s a tedious and redundant process. It’s highly likely that she mis clicked one box. You should probably have her bring the counseling office some chocolates as a thank you for jumping in off schedule and fixing her mistake. Teach your kid some graciousness and humility.

Uhhhh, no she isn't.

Tell me you don't know anything about the status of incoming freshman right now without telling you you don't know anything about incoming freshman.

Huh? My kid is filling out all sorts of forms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The counselor shouldn’t have placed blame with your daughter. It’s very irritating and low class when employees do this. She should have said, “Oh no! I will get them the transcript right away. No worries! So sorry that happened.”

This parent was looking for an explanation and someone to blame. Not only that, they went over the counselor's head to their supervisor. In addition to providing the transcript, they probably needed to make clear WHY they sent the transcript to the other UNC with the level of unnecessary alarm applied in this situation.

Separately, it's entirely possible that a kid might submit a midyear transcript for one school and then got off of the WL elsewhere, accept, and request a final transcript for that school instead. It's up to our young adults to understand that they must own this process and ensure documents are submitted correctly and on time. And if not, correct and move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just let it go op. FWIW I believe the school. It’s not like they would need to make up a story vs just saying oops our mistake we will fix it- they fix it either way. Your daughter is filling out literally hundreds of forms right now and it’s a tedious and redundant process. It’s highly likely that she mis clicked one box. You should probably have her bring the counseling office some chocolates as a thank you for jumping in off schedule and fixing her mistake. Teach your kid some graciousness and humility.

Uhhhh, no she isn't.

Tell me you don't know anything about the status of incoming freshman right now without telling you you don't know anything about incoming freshman.

Huh? My kid is filling out all sorts of forms.

Not “literally hundreds.” Some? Sure