She was 17. He was 47. #MeToo changed how she thinks of their relationship

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone blaming the man? This woman was also a willing participant until she decided to rewrite history.

She was a minor and he was 47. It's not rocket science.

She was 17, not 7.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone blaming the man? This woman was also a willing participant until she decided to rewrite history.

She was a minor and he was 47. It's not rocket science.

She was 17, not 7.

I'm so glad that #metoo happened. Exposes people like you and makes sure that your behavior is checked and not normalized.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

I literally said the opposite.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone blaming the man? This woman was also a willing participant until she decided to rewrite history.

She was a minor and he was 47. It's not rocket science.

She was 17, not 7.

I'm so glad that #metoo happened. Exposes people like you and makes sure that your behavior is checked and not normalized.

Yes, that's not right. No matter what the PP says.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

I literally said the opposite.

"I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be"
How is that the opposite? Of course it's predatory.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

I literally said the opposite.

"I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be"
How is that the opposite? Of course it's predatory.

Yes that’s what I said. It’s predatory.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone blaming the man? This woman was also a willing participant until she decided to rewrite history.

She was a minor and he was 47. It's not rocket science.

She was 17, not 7.

Have sex with a 17 year old is statutory rape in a lot of states.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

I literally said the opposite.

"I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be"
How is that the opposite? Of course it's predatory.

Yes that’s what I said. It’s predatory.

You said "not as". You are discounting her POV because she's 17, not 7 (as you so astutely pointed out )
Stop trying to minimize grooming and predatory behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

I literally said the opposite.

"I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be"
How is that the opposite? Of course it's predatory.

Yes that’s what I said. It’s predatory.

If you thought it was predatory, you would have said it was predatory. That's not what you said. Stop trying to back peddle now that pps called you out on your disgusting approval of this relationship.

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Even though she was willing, he should have had the maturity to not pursue her. I think that's the big element missing to the story - an older male authority figure should have the discipline to not pursue a relationship with a much younger woman under his tutelage. The power differential is just too much. Plus, he was married with kids and could easily be her father.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

I literally said the opposite.

"I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be"
How is that the opposite? Of course it's predatory.

Yes that’s what I said. It’s predatory.

If you thought it was predatory, you would have said it was predatory. That's not what you said. Stop trying to back peddle now that pps called you out on your disgusting approval of this relationship.

I did say it was predatory.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though she was willing, he should have had the maturity to not pursue her. I think that's the big element missing to the story - an older male authority figure should have the discipline to not pursue a relationship with a much younger woman under his tutelage. The power differential is just too much. Plus, he was married with kids and could easily be her father.

Oh he had the maturity, just not the desire not to pursue her.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's great, but I also think it's entirely possible it wasn't a predator situation. There are people (men and women) who are wonderful at age 18—they're sexually adults and completely capable of being intelligent, thoughtful, charming people.

Okay, so I can't think of any 17 or 18yo that I can stand to spend more than 3 minutes with, but her kvetching about this, especially because they apparently were married for decades long after she was inappropriately young, makes this feel more like an attention grab than a serious concern.

I'd almost believe you if he was 17 or 18 himself. But a 47 year old man who pursues a 17 year old girl will always be a predator in my mind. What could they possibly have in common?

She sounds like an incredibly unappealing person in general, so I can't answer that. But they did stay married for a long time, so clearly there was something else going on besides an interest in 17yos.

Totally irrelevant and a matter of your opinion. She was still 17 and he was 47. Just because you marry your victim doesn't make it right.

Same goes for Celene Dion and Rene. She was 12 when she met him nad he was 38 and married, but they supposedly waited until she was of age to start dating. They were also married for a long time. It doesn't make him any less of a predator. Just sick stuff.

Also, the PP asked what they could possibly have in common and I replied that I couldn't answer that. So, not sure what you're so worked up about.

That you're treating this relationship like no big deal and trying to normalize this kind of behavior from adult, middle aged, predatory men. I'll answer for you a great deal of certainty that a 17 year old girl and 47 year old man have VERY little in common. She barely started her life, has little education, no work experience, no relationship experience, and he has lived more than half his life. So please, spare me the "oh I don't know, it could be fine." It's not. It's just not. You wouldn't let your 17 year old daughter marry a 47 year old man so what are you driving at?

I wouldn't let my 17yo marry anyone. Would you?

Absolutely not. That is my point. But especially a 47 year old.

You've really lost me as to what your point is.

I know, dear. Just stay away from young girls.

Why would I go near young girls? Is this about Celine Dion?

You're a troll and probably a preditor yourself since you see nothing wrong with this.

Oh, I see lots wrong with it. I think it's downright weird. I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be.

You don't think a married 47 year old with children pursuing a 17 year old is predatory? JFC, how many watch lists are you on?

I literally said the opposite.

"I just don't think it's as predatory as she's making it out to be"
How is that the opposite? Of course it's predatory.

Yes that’s what I said. It’s predatory.

If you thought it was predatory, you would have said it was predatory. That's not what you said. Stop trying to back peddle now that pps called you out on your disgusting approval of this relationship.

I did say it was predatory.

Where?

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Anonymous wrote:Even though she was willing, he should have had the maturity to not pursue her. I think that's the big element missing to the story - an older male authority figure should have the discipline to not pursue a relationship with a much younger woman under his tutelage. The power differential is just too much. Plus, he was married with kids and could easily be her father.

That’s literally the entire story.