I have friends that I don't talk to for months, and then when we do we have long, deep convos. I've had friends that I fell out of touch with when one of us moved to a different city, and we are not in touch any more. Then we move to the same city again and we are in touch again. But there's never any drama associated with moving away and coming back. There aren't hurt feelings. That's how I view adult friendships: They may become stronger or weaker depending on everything else going on in people's lives. It's just ebb and tide, enjoy what's there when it's there. |
It wouldn't be triangulation as I'm not friends with the other people (so no triangle). And I did call her out when she was mocking the one woman about her traumas. And did try to suggest to her that her viewpoint on parenting is perhaps unjustified because she's not a parent. So oddly, I did stick up for those other people. but yes, it was toxic of me to listen and not to leave her based on that. I probably enabled the behavior and helped her hurt those other people. |
That sounds really nice. Where or how do you acquire them or are your relationships set by the time you leave college? |
Triangulation does not require a literal friendship triangle, but you can conduct your smear campaign if you like. |
I have one friend from high school like this, one from college, and the other two are post-college (one I met in my mid-twenties, the other I met in my mid-thirties). |
Ok, so I listened to someone crap on her friends, tried to defend her friends to her, but also did not do anything else to stop the behavior. I own that I did that, don't feel good about it, and have broken up with the friend. It doesn't seem like anyone's feelings will be helped by me going up to her friends to let her know of her behavior, so I'm not going to. |
Triangulation would require that the 'listener' have some interaction with the people being talked about. |
+1 It's textbook narcissistic abuse: https://psychcentral.com/blog/psychology-self/2019/10/triangulation-and-narcissism#1 https://www.narcissistexposed.com/narcissist-smear-campaign/ |
Interesting take. I have a sibling who is probably the person I'm closest to in the world. I do however have a lot of really great friends going on 30+ years and they do in fact show up too. And I have cousins who are so awful. They might actually show up but then I'd have to talk to them. Seems healthy to have both to me. |
So we're saying my ex-friend is a narcissist? Huh. That would jibe. |
No, the PP talking about a smear campaign is describing narcissistic abuse. I'm not saying she isn't. I don't know anything but your perspective and intent. But your quickness to jump on this without reading the links suggests that maybe she is better off. |
I did read the links. My ex-friend apparently was engaged in a smear campaign against her other friends, and was using me as the "accomplice." The links suggest this is a behavior of narcissistic abuse toward her other friends. |
Oooh actually as I think about it more based on these links, the ex-friend would also play the "The Great Savior" with her other friends (the couple). She would tell them she would watch their kids in order to help them have alone time or whatnot. She was actually constantly doing stuff to "help them out", all while saying negative stuff about them. |
Yeah, sure you read all three links in oh, about 2.5 minutes. You already said you weren't friends with the victims which would be required for a smear campaign, it's just like the PP above said with people weaponizing therapy speak that they don't understand. Which you should try. |
unnecessary |