What distinguishes an "average woman" from an "above average" woman for dating and marriage

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

For being ivy educated you sound dumb and vapid. No such thing as naturally thin. My naturally thin cousin from a pedestrian friendly country left with a belly after all the American food.

My entire extended family is thin. The majority of my parents’ country of origin is thin. It is possible to be naturally thin. I am almost 50 and still weigh 125 pounds.

The thread is about above average women. Being pretty, thin, big boobs, smart and confident puts you in above average. I also have an engaging personality and can get along with everyone.

So you're saying your extended family is immune to gaining any weight? Lady, do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You are the one who sounds dumb. Maybe you struggle with weight. I also have good skin.

Dh is a good looking smart guy and he married a good looking smart girl. We have three pretty amazing kids. My kids are all stick skinny despite being excellent eaters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

For being ivy educated you sound dumb and vapid. No such thing as naturally thin. My naturally thin cousin from a pedestrian friendly country left with a belly after all the American food.

My entire extended family is thin. The majority of my parents’ country of origin is thin. It is possible to be naturally thin. I am almost 50 and still weigh 125 pounds.

The thread is about above average women. Being pretty, thin, big boobs, smart and confident puts you in above average. I also have an engaging personality and can get along with everyone.

So you're saying your extended family is immune to gaining any weight? Lady, do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You are the one who sounds dumb. Maybe you struggle with weight. I also have good skin.

Dh is a good looking smart guy and he married a good looking smart girl. We have three pretty amazing kids. My kids are all stick skinny despite being excellent eaters.

For an ivy leaguer, you sure didn't learn how to use commas. We get it. Everything about you, your husband, and kids are amazing. It's been my experience that those people that truly have a lot going for them don't need to convince others of that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

For being ivy educated you sound dumb and vapid. No such thing as naturally thin. My naturally thin cousin from a pedestrian friendly country left with a belly after all the American food.

My entire extended family is thin. The majority of my parents’ country of origin is thin. It is possible to be naturally thin. I am almost 50 and still weigh 125 pounds.

The thread is about above average women. Being pretty, thin, big boobs, smart and confident puts you in above average. I also have an engaging personality and can get along with everyone.

So you're saying your extended family is immune to gaining any weight? Lady, do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You are the one who sounds dumb. Maybe you struggle with weight. I also have good skin.

Dh is a good looking smart guy and he married a good looking smart girl. We have three pretty amazing kids. My kids are all stick skinny despite being excellent eaters.

You wouldn't need to brag on here if you truly had everything going for yourself. The majority of my parents' country of origin is also thin and they all have good skin. Older people in my family don't even get grays or wrinkles until they're in their 70's or so. However I know nobody is naturally thin. That is a truly dumb statement to make. Of course your kids are stick skinny because you probably carry a diet that doesn't allow them high sugary fatty products to eat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

For being ivy educated you sound dumb and vapid. No such thing as naturally thin. My naturally thin cousin from a pedestrian friendly country left with a belly after all the American food.

My entire extended family is thin. The majority of my parents’ country of origin is thin. It is possible to be naturally thin. I am almost 50 and still weigh 125 pounds.

The thread is about above average women. Being pretty, thin, big boobs, smart and confident puts you in above average. I also have an engaging personality and can get along with everyone.

So you're saying your extended family is immune to gaining any weight? Lady, do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You are the one who sounds dumb. Maybe you struggle with weight. I also have good skin.

Dh is a good looking smart guy and he married a good looking smart girl. We have three pretty amazing kids. My kids are all stick skinny despite being excellent eaters.

For an ivy leaguer, you sure didn't learn how to use commas. We get it. Everything about you, your husband, and kids are amazing. It's been my experience that those people that truly have a lot going for them don't need to convince others of that.

I am just responding to the thread. DH earns a seven figure income and probably what people would consider a high value man.

I don’t need to convince anyone. We are actually quite humble in real life. I don’t go around saying how so many high value men pursued and wanted me in my twenties. Who even calls people high value or low value men???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

For being ivy educated you sound dumb and vapid. No such thing as naturally thin. My naturally thin cousin from a pedestrian friendly country left with a belly after all the American food.

I was naturally thin. Until I wasn’t. Probably 20th percentile for weight until I was 35 or so. Medication led to obesity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a lot of high quality suitors when I was single and in my twenties.

I am naturally thin with large breasts. I have a pretty face, nice legs and great hair. I’m ivy educated. I always look polished. I wasn’t the prettiest but I was able to attract and more importantly keep the guys. I’m pleasant and a good conversationalist.

So if you are pretty, nice figure, smart and well educated, you are a good catch.

For being ivy educated you sound dumb and vapid. No such thing as naturally thin. My naturally thin cousin from a pedestrian friendly country left with a belly after all the American food.

My entire extended family is thin. The majority of my parents’ country of origin is thin. It is possible to be naturally thin. I am almost 50 and still weigh 125 pounds.

The thread is about above average women. Being pretty, thin, big boobs, smart and confident puts you in above average. I also have an engaging personality and can get along with everyone.

So you're saying your extended family is immune to gaining any weight? Lady, do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You are the one who sounds dumb. Maybe you struggle with weight. I also have good skin.

Dh is a good looking smart guy and he married a good looking smart girl. We have three pretty amazing kids. My kids are all stick skinny despite being excellent eaters.

You wouldn't need to brag on here if you truly had everything going for yourself. The majority of my parents' country of origin is also thin and they all have good skin. Older people in my family don't even get grays or wrinkles until they're in their 70's or so. However I know nobody is naturally thin. That is a truly dumb statement to make. Of course your kids are stick skinny because you probably carry a diet that doesn't allow them high sugary fatty products to eat.

Not sure what your problem is. My kids eat tons of snacks like most other kids. I have a well stocked pantry and fridge full of a large variety of food.

I have friends with kids who struggle with weight. My kids eat a ton and are still very skinny.

My fattest friend is the one who seems to avoid sugar and eats the healthiest. I’m the skinny friend who always orders dessert and drinks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see this referenced here a lot, especially in regards to high value men. Can anyone elaborate?

Family: Emotionally and financially stable family with no racism, addiction, bankruptcy, debt, legal issues. Good marital and parenting role models.

Person: Emotionally stable. Interest in sex. Well educated and well employed. Good nature and good ethics. No serious prior relationship baggage. Decent social and financial skills. No debt. No addiction. Interest and ability for parenting. Good communication skills. Even temper. Basic home running skills, at least knowing how to delegate and organize work.

Not necessarily in that order.

I mean, according to this I'd say 90% of people are going to feel high value.

Well, some posters seems to think its too much to ask. I think if you yourself have some "value", its not too much to ask. However, I doubt more than 50% people would meet this criteria. Obviously if you love someone, that's different. This thread is for people who want to get married and looking for a partner with "high value".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see this referenced here a lot, especially in regards to high value men. Can anyone elaborate?

Family: Emotionally and financially stable family with no racism, addiction, bankruptcy, debt, legal issues. Good marital and parenting role models.

Person: Emotionally stable. Interest in sex. Well educated and well employed. Good nature and good ethics. No serious prior relationship baggage. Decent social and financial skills. No debt. No addiction. Interest and ability for parenting. Good communication skills. Even temper. Basic home running skills, at least knowing how to delegate and organize work.

Not necessarily in that order.

I mean, according to this I'd say 90% of people are going to feel high value.

That's funny, I read this and realized why some guys dumped me after meeting my family.

[Anonymous]

Pp again. I took my kids out to McDonald’s after activities yesterday even though they already ate dinner. I found a bag of chips that my son ate last night. My kid has a bmi of less than 20.

We are an active family. My kids all play multiple sports. I run and swim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you do if you meet intellectual and emotional requirements but are short and do not have a pretty face?

Please do not put so much stock in what people on the internet think. Lots of great men marry short women! One man's preference is just one man's preference?

[Anonymous]

I'm short but that's never kept me out of the running. All my bf's have been over 6'2"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think most people think above average people are average and average people are unattractive.

Don’t 90% of guys want the same 10% of women?

Even at my child’s high school, there are very few attractive girls. Most girls are average and below average. All the guys want the same few girls. Dating apps are the same. Even if you are not that attractive, you will still be attracted to the same attractive women.

This is true. I was more attractive in my twenties than in high school because I got my nose fixed and starting taking care of my skin, wearing light makeup and doing my hair (in high school, I was an athlete and just didn't care about those things). I went from almost no attention from boys to having my pick in twenties. The only thing that changed was my appearance.

That's not true. You went to college. I had the same experience and didn't even have to change my grooming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm short but that's never kept me out of the running. All my bf's have been over 6'2"

Tall men like little women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you do if you meet intellectual and emotional requirements but are short and do not have a pretty face?

The pretty is a hook. You have to have it to at least SOME extent in order to allow the rest of your qualities to shine.

Agreed.

Physical attractiveness is basically the only thing that matters.

[Anonymous]

There is a woman that is a mom in my kid’s friend group. She is incredible. Beyond beautiful, hilarious, smart, nice, works for a great company. She’s a once in a lifetime kind of woman and I wish I’d met her 10 years ago.