Twinbrook elementary rape allegation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

When a child reports an assault, the first call is medical (if appropriate), then police. The police takes over the questioning. They are trained to do so. The police partners with psychologists if need be.

Actually most police aren't specially trained and they need to bring the child to the Tree House in Rockville that specializes in it. Was it an adult assault or a child to child? Child to child will be ignored even though there should be a huge red flag on the child who assaulted as something is probably being done to them.

Officers in the special victims unit are though.

[Anonymous]

I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

When a child reports an assault, the first call is medical (if appropriate), then police. The police takes over the questioning. They are trained to do so. The police partners with psychologists if need be.

Actually most police aren't specially trained and they need to bring the child to the Tree House in Rockville that specializes in it. Was it an adult assault or a child to child? Child to child will be ignored even though there should be a huge red flag on the child who assaulted as something is probably being done to them.

Officers in the special victims unit are though.

No they are not. they know to bring the child to the person trained in forensic interviews for children of abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

idk I have a boy and the girl across the street took his temperature in his butt so... I mean she isn't wrong. LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

I assume it’s more than language. Probably touching. But one 5 year old touching another 5 year old is not attempted rape. Obviously.

Maybe I missed something, but do we know for sure that the perpetrator(s) were also 5? Isn’t twinbrook a K-5 school?

Recess is divided by class. Or groups. 5th graders and K are not mixed together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

yes of course, but a 5 year old cannot commit attempted rape as a matter of fact or law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, in MD, digital penetration can be considered rape.

As it should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was posted on NextDoor
https://nextdoor.com/p/PzM77QsckZnp?utm_source=share&extras=NTA4MDAyMDg%3D

My daughter is currently a student at Twinbrook Elementary School. She was sexually abused on the playground at recess. We met with the principal and guidance counselor and my daughter gave details about the abuse and even the name of the abuser. The principal and guidance counselor did not seem to be taking the situation seriously, so my family and I called the police to be present with us and open an investigation. Once the officer showed up, the principal and guidance counselor refused to speak with us any further and locked themselves in the office stating they had "meetings" for the rest of the day.
We sat with the officer and security guard giving our statement, letting our daughter give her statement, and open a full investigation. We currently have a open investigation with the police, special victims unit, and a local hospital.
The school has only stated that they would "follow up" but no action has been taken.
I am writing this because my daughter named another victim who was possibly abused as well, and her family has yet to be notified.
If you know any families with kids that go to Twinbrook Elementary please let them know that there was an attempted rape of a five year old during recess under the school's care and they are doing nothing about it except seemingly trying to cover the situation up.
We of course pulled our daughter out of the school, obtained a lawyer and contacted a local news reporter.

That's unfortunate but you did the right thing calling the police. This is their job. MCPS is not equipped to h handle this kind of thing. They're job is to educate not investigate cases like this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

yes of course, but a 5 year old cannot commit attempted rape as a matter of fact or law.

It doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be investigated and addressed but it’s not rape.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

+1

When my child was in pre-K, a slightly older child asked/told my child to perform a sex act. My child said no and got a teacher. When I learned about this, my main emotion was relief that my child knew to say no because we'd had those conversations at home, and deep concern for the other child. I asked that the kids be separated, that the school ensure the other child meet with a psychologist, etc.

What I didn't do, because I have a sense of proportionality, is to take to every Listserve and bulletin board in the tristate area to claim "attempted rape."

Sometimes scary things happen, but there are multiple CHILDREN involved in this story and nothing OP has said in their post suggests any sort of empathy for the other child involved. OP also hasn't clarified what they want the school to do beyond what is already being done according to the principal's email.

ABSOLUTELY!! Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

+1

When my child was in pre-K, a slightly older child asked/told my child to perform a sex act. My child said no and got a teacher. When I learned about this, my main emotion was relief that my child knew to say no because we'd had those conversations at home, and deep concern for the other child. I asked that the kids be separated, that the school ensure the other child meet with a psychologist, etc.

What I didn't do, because I have a sense of proportionality, is to take to every Listserve and bulletin board in the tristate area to claim "attempted rape."

Sometimes scary things happen, but there are multiple CHILDREN involved in this story and nothing OP has said in their post suggests any sort of empathy for the other child involved. OP also hasn't clarified what they want the school to do beyond what is already being done according to the principal's email.

And I would have gone scorched Earth. Not because of "proportionality" or lack thereof, but because I don't play when it cones to my kid's safety.

You realize that it could just have easily been your kid asking to see the other kids private parts? It’s absolutely normal to have a curiosity and it’s not vastly abnormal (though unusual) to not yet understand boundaries at that age. This is another 5 year old we’re talking about. Not an adult.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/11/after-parent-uses-nextdoor-to-notify.html

Parents coalition has the principal email which came after the post on NextDoor.
The description of the student beinf "prompted" by another student is wacky.

Victim blaming

That was my first thought but my second thought was a sociopath found a special needs kid and prompted them to violate the victim.
The fact that the letter leaves it open to victim blaming is outrageous

Oh come on. Isn’t this two 5 year olds? I have no idea what happened, but it’s not uncommon for kids that age to play “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” - was there an assault or were kids playing inappropriately and then the boy got blamed for being the initiator? I think there is at least a decent chance that this parent is overreacting based on the school response.

It's NOT common and if your kids are doing this you have a parenting/supervison or something more serious issue.

It is common. As far as I know my kids have never done this (they are older now) but I also remember very well when I was that age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

yes of course, but a 5 year old cannot commit attempted rape as a matter of fact or law.

It doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be investigated and addressed but it’s not rape.

Correct, but it's also not clear to me what the OP wants the school to do. It sounds like the school administration met with the impacted family, including the principal. OP involved the police, which is their right, but it's still not clear what OP wanted and didn't get from the school.

Everyone involved here is a child, and even the "perp" has a right to privacy and a right to receive the appropriate services. Reading between the lines, it seems like maybe OP wanted expulsion or summary execution for the other child involved, and then took to the listserves when the school didn't immediately bend to their will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

yes of course, but a 5 year old cannot commit attempted rape as a matter of fact or law.

It doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be investigated and addressed but it’s not rape.

Correct, but it's also not clear to me what the OP wants the school to do. It sounds like the school administration met with the impacted family, including the principal. OP involved the police, which is their right, but it's still not clear what OP wanted and didn't get from the school.

Everyone involved here is a child, and even the "perp" has a right to privacy and a right to receive the appropriate services. Reading between the lines, it seems like maybe OP wanted expulsion or summary execution for the other child involved, and then took to the listserves when the school didn't immediately bend to their will.

What a vivid imagination. None of what you wrote matters. It isn’t your child and you don’t have any information.

Is your goal to run victims of sexual abuse out of town like the Cloverly Elem community did? If that is your goal then be clear. MCPS has a long history of not supporting victims of sexual abuse. State your goal and wear your Vigna Strong tee-shirt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

yes of course, but a 5 year old cannot commit attempted rape as a matter of fact or law.

It doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be investigated and addressed but it’s not rape.

Correct, but it's also not clear to me what the OP wants the school to do. It sounds like the school administration met with the impacted family, including the principal. OP involved the police, which is their right, but it's still not clear what OP wanted and didn't get from the school.

Everyone involved here is a child, and even the "perp" has a right to privacy and a right to receive the appropriate services. Reading between the lines, it seems like maybe OP wanted expulsion or summary execution for the other child involved, and then took to the listserves when the school didn't immediately bend to their will.

What a vivid imagination. None of what you wrote matters. It isn’t your child and you don’t have any information.

Is your goal to run victims of sexual abuse out of town like the Cloverly Elem community did? If that is your goal then be clear. MCPS has a long history of not supporting victims of sexual abuse. State your goal and wear your Vigna Strong tee-shirt.

Then it's good that this isn't an MCPS matter and falls under the purview of MCPD.