Twinbrook elementary rape allegation

[Anonymous]

When my 5th grader, she had a stalker and a child who was writing multiple disturbing and sexually explicit letters to her. I kept getting phone calls of my child having toileting accidents, which is highly unusual for a 5th grader. My child is very shy and quiet. It took many hours of prompting before she told me and showed me the letters. The child told her he knew where we lived and would come and get her if she told. I told the school, and they knew all along and did not tell me. I was beyond livid! They scheduled a meeting and after much deliberation told me the child would remain in the class to protect his feelings. I threatened legal action and then they moved MY child. MY child. I took her out of that school the next year and she is thriving in a private girls Catholic school. To h$ll with MCPS and their sexual abuse loving antics.

[Anonymous]

There is another post today about an assault at JWMS. And how MCPS didn’t take it seriously. So frustrating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When my 5th grader, she had a stalker and a child who was writing multiple disturbing and sexually explicit letters to her. I kept getting phone calls of my child having toileting accidents, which is highly unusual for a 5th grader. My child is very shy and quiet. It took many hours of prompting before she told me and showed me the letters. The child told her he knew where we lived and would come and get her if she told. I told the school, and they knew all along and did not tell me. I was beyond livid! They scheduled a meeting and after much deliberation told me the child would remain in the class to protect his feelings. I threatened legal action and then they moved MY child. MY child. I took her out of that school the next year and she is thriving in a private girls Catholic school. To h$ll with MCPS and their sexual abuse loving antics.[/quote

The joy of restorative justice. It punishes the victim and clears the perpetrator. I would have called the police and done legal action (and removed my child from the school). There would be no way my kid would go back with a kid like that when the school knew and did nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/11/after-parent-uses-nextdoor-to-notify.html

Parents coalition has the principal email which came after the post on NextDoor.
The description of the student beinf "prompted" by another student is wacky.

Victim blaming

That was my first thought but my second thought was a sociopath found a special needs kid and prompted them to violate the victim.
The fact that the letter leaves it open to victim blaming is outrageous

Oh come on. Isn’t this two 5 year olds? I have no idea what happened, but it’s not uncommon for kids that age to play “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” - was there an assault or were kids playing inappropriately and then the boy got blamed for being the initiator? I think there is at least a decent chance that this parent is overreacting based on the school response.

It's NOT common and if your kids are doing this you have a parenting/supervison or something more serious issue.

It is common. As far as I know my kids have never done this (they are older now) but I also remember very well when I was that age.

I don’t know where these “it’s not common” posters are coming from but they clearly don’t know what is and isn’t developmentally appropriate.

so something from the AAP that states is CLEARLY IS COMMON to play show me "https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Sexual-Behaviors-Young-Children.aspx" wont suffice for you? Because it is normal for a child to have the impulse to do those common behaviors and for it to happen, which is why you have plenty of conversations and use anatomical language and dont shy away from awkward conversations and verbage like penis, anus, vulva, vagina, clitoris, urethra, etc.

+1. People here tend to confuse things that don't want happening with things that aren't developmentally normal and common. Kids showing their genitals to each other is something to discourage absolutely, but it's also totally normal and happens without supervision issues or kids being exposed to porn etc.

(I also don't think there's any confirmation of what actually happened here, so the entire conversation is missing that pretty critical piece of information)

No, it's not normal to demand to another child to see or feel their privates at the age. To know about it, yes, but not to see it and often it is a red flag to the child being exposed to something they shouldn't and these kids need more supervision.

Who’s demanding anything? Are you making up scenarios to bolster your argument?

Um. This very thread is about an allegation that a child either ACTUALLY sexually assaulted another child or coerced another child to acquies to sexual assault or, perhaps even DEMANDED another child acquies to sexual assault. No imagination required.

So then yes, you are making stuff up. Thanks for acknowledging that.

Um. This thread says that something happened. But you keep spinning for MCPS.

Something =/= a child demanded another child to do anything.
But you keep making sh¡t up. Apparently it’s working for you.

You're right. It probably wasn't a demand. It was probably force.

I don’t even need to respond. Guy just keep proving my point over and over again.
Do tell what else probably happened?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/11/after-parent-uses-nextdoor-to-notify.html

Parents coalition has the principal email which came after the post on NextDoor.
The description of the student beinf "prompted" by another student is wacky.

Victim blaming

That was my first thought but my second thought was a sociopath found a special needs kid and prompted them to violate the victim.
The fact that the letter leaves it open to victim blaming is outrageous

Oh come on. Isn’t this two 5 year olds? I have no idea what happened, but it’s not uncommon for kids that age to play “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” - was there an assault or were kids playing inappropriately and then the boy got blamed for being the initiator? I think there is at least a decent chance that this parent is overreacting based on the school response.

It's NOT common and if your kids are doing this you have a parenting/supervison or something more serious issue.

It is common. As far as I know my kids have never done this (they are older now) but I also remember very well when I was that age.

I don’t know where these “it’s not common” posters are coming from but they clearly don’t know what is and isn’t developmentally appropriate.

so something from the AAP that states is CLEARLY IS COMMON to play show me "https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Sexual-Behaviors-Young-Children.aspx" wont suffice for you? Because it is normal for a child to have the impulse to do those common behaviors and for it to happen, which is why you have plenty of conversations and use anatomical language and dont shy away from awkward conversations and verbage like penis, anus, vulva, vagina, clitoris, urethra, etc.

+1. People here tend to confuse things that don't want happening with things that aren't developmentally normal and common. Kids showing their genitals to each other is something to discourage absolutely, but it's also totally normal and happens without supervision issues or kids being exposed to porn etc.

(I also don't think there's any confirmation of what actually happened here, so the entire conversation is missing that pretty critical piece of information)

No, it's not normal to demand to another child to see or feel their privates at the age. To know about it, yes, but not to see it and often it is a red flag to the child being exposed to something they shouldn't and these kids need more supervision.

Who’s demanding anything? Are you making up scenarios to bolster your argument?

Um. This very thread is about an allegation that a child either ACTUALLY sexually assaulted another child or coerced another child to acquies to sexual assault or, perhaps even DEMANDED another child acquies to sexual assault. No imagination required.

So then yes, you are making stuff up. Thanks for acknowledging that.

Um. This thread says that something happened. But you keep spinning for MCPS.

Something =/= a child demanded another child to do anything.
But you keep making sh¡t up. Apparently it’s working for you.

You're right. It probably wasn't a demand. It was probably force.

I don’t even need to respond. Guy just keep proving my point over and over again.
Do tell what else probably happened?

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you, not guy

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Anonymous wrote:https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/11/after-parent-uses-nextdoor-to-notify.html

Parents coalition has the principal email which came after the post on NextDoor.
The description of the student beinf "prompted" by another student is wacky.

Victim blaming

That was my first thought but my second thought was a sociopath found a special needs kid and prompted them to violate the victim.
The fact that the letter leaves it open to victim blaming is outrageous

Oh come on. Isn’t this two 5 year olds? I have no idea what happened, but it’s not uncommon for kids that age to play “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” - was there an assault or were kids playing inappropriately and then the boy got blamed for being the initiator? I think there is at least a decent chance that this parent is overreacting based on the school response.

It's NOT common and if your kids are doing this you have a parenting/supervison or something more serious issue.

It is common. As far as I know my kids have never done this (they are older now) but I also remember very well when I was that age.

I don’t know where these “it’s not common” posters are coming from but they clearly don’t know what is and isn’t developmentally appropriate.

so something from the AAP that states is CLEARLY IS COMMON to play show me "https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Sexual-Behaviors-Young-Children.aspx" wont suffice for you? Because it is normal for a child to have the impulse to do those common behaviors and for it to happen, which is why you have plenty of conversations and use anatomical language and dont shy away from awkward conversations and verbage like penis, anus, vulva, vagina, clitoris, urethra, etc.

+1. People here tend to confuse things that don't want happening with things that aren't developmentally normal and common. Kids showing their genitals to each other is something to discourage absolutely, but it's also totally normal and happens without supervision issues or kids being exposed to porn etc.

(I also don't think there's any confirmation of what actually happened here, so the entire conversation is missing that pretty critical piece of information)

No, it's not normal to demand to another child to see or feel their privates at the age. To know about it, yes, but not to see it and often it is a red flag to the child being exposed to something they shouldn't and these kids need more supervision.

Who’s demanding anything? Are you making up scenarios to bolster your argument?

Um. This very thread is about an allegation that a child either ACTUALLY sexually assaulted another child or coerced another child to acquies to sexual assault or, perhaps even DEMANDED another child acquies to sexual assault. No imagination required.

So then yes, you are making stuff up. Thanks for acknowledging that.

Um. This thread says that something happened. But you keep spinning for MCPS.

Something =/= a child demanded another child to do anything.
But you keep making sh¡t up. Apparently it’s working for you.

You're right. It probably wasn't a demand. It was probably force.

I don’t even need to respond. Guy just keep proving my point over and over again.
Do tell what else probably happened?

According to the title, the rape of a child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/11/after-parent-uses-nextdoor-to-notify.html

Parents coalition has the principal email which came after the post on NextDoor.
The description of the student beinf "prompted" by another student is wacky.

Victim blaming

That was my first thought but my second thought was a sociopath found a special needs kid and prompted them to violate the victim.
The fact that the letter leaves it open to victim blaming is outrageous

Oh come on. Isn’t this two 5 year olds? I have no idea what happened, but it’s not uncommon for kids that age to play “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” - was there an assault or were kids playing inappropriately and then the boy got blamed for being the initiator? I think there is at least a decent chance that this parent is overreacting based on the school response.

It's NOT common and if your kids are doing this you have a parenting/supervison or something more serious issue.

It is common. As far as I know my kids have never done this (they are older now) but I also remember very well when I was that age.

I don’t know where these “it’s not common” posters are coming from but they clearly don’t know what is and isn’t developmentally appropriate.

so something from the AAP that states is CLEARLY IS COMMON to play show me "https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Sexual-Behaviors-Young-Children.aspx" wont suffice for you? Because it is normal for a child to have the impulse to do those common behaviors and for it to happen, which is why you have plenty of conversations and use anatomical language and dont shy away from awkward conversations and verbage like penis, anus, vulva, vagina, clitoris, urethra, etc.

+1. People here tend to confuse things that don't want happening with things that aren't developmentally normal and common. Kids showing their genitals to each other is something to discourage absolutely, but it's also totally normal and happens without supervision issues or kids being exposed to porn etc.

(I also don't think there's any confirmation of what actually happened here, so the entire conversation is missing that pretty critical piece of information)

No, it's not normal to demand to another child to see or feel their privates at the age. To know about it, yes, but not to see it and often it is a red flag to the child being exposed to something they shouldn't and these kids need more supervision.

Who’s demanding anything? Are you making up scenarios to bolster your argument?

Um. This very thread is about an allegation that a child either ACTUALLY sexually assaulted another child or coerced another child to acquies to sexual assault or, perhaps even DEMANDED another child acquies to sexual assault. No imagination required.

So then yes, you are making stuff up. Thanks for acknowledging that.

Um. This thread says that something happened. But you keep spinning for MCPS.

Something =/= a child demanded another child to do anything.
But you keep making sh¡t up. Apparently it’s working for you.

You're right. It probably wasn't a demand. It was probably force.

I don’t even need to respond. Guy just keep proving my point over and over again.
Do tell what else probably happened?

According to the title, the rape of a child.

ALLEGATION

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/11/after-parent-uses-nextdoor-to-notify.html

Parents coalition has the principal email which came after the post on NextDoor.
The description of the student beinf "prompted" by another student is wacky.

Victim blaming

That was my first thought but my second thought was a sociopath found a special needs kid and prompted them to violate the victim.
The fact that the letter leaves it open to victim blaming is outrageous

Oh come on. Isn’t this two 5 year olds? I have no idea what happened, but it’s not uncommon for kids that age to play “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” - was there an assault or were kids playing inappropriately and then the boy got blamed for being the initiator? I think there is at least a decent chance that this parent is overreacting based on the school response.

It's NOT common and if your kids are doing this you have a parenting/supervison or something more serious issue.

It is common. As far as I know my kids have never done this (they are older now) but I also remember very well when I was that age.

I don’t know where these “it’s not common” posters are coming from but they clearly don’t know what is and isn’t developmentally appropriate.

so something from the AAP that states is CLEARLY IS COMMON to play show me "https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Sexual-Behaviors-Young-Children.aspx" wont suffice for you? Because it is normal for a child to have the impulse to do those common behaviors and for it to happen, which is why you have plenty of conversations and use anatomical language and dont shy away from awkward conversations and verbage like penis, anus, vulva, vagina, clitoris, urethra, etc.

+1. People here tend to confuse things that don't want happening with things that aren't developmentally normal and common. Kids showing their genitals to each other is something to discourage absolutely, but it's also totally normal and happens without supervision issues or kids being exposed to porn etc.

(I also don't think there's any confirmation of what actually happened here, so the entire conversation is missing that pretty critical piece of information)

No, it's not normal to demand to another child to see or feel their privates at the age. To know about it, yes, but not to see it and often it is a red flag to the child being exposed to something they shouldn't and these kids need more supervision.

Who’s demanding anything? Are you making up scenarios to bolster your argument?

Um. This very thread is about an allegation that a child either ACTUALLY sexually assaulted another child or coerced another child to acquies to sexual assault or, perhaps even DEMANDED another child acquies to sexual assault. No imagination required.

So then yes, you are making stuff up. Thanks for acknowledging that.

Um. This thread says that something happened. But you keep spinning for MCPS.

Something =/= a child demanded another child to do anything.
But you keep making sh¡t up. Apparently it’s working for you.

You're right. It probably wasn't a demand. It was probably force.

I don’t even need to respond. Guy just keep proving my point over and over again.
Do tell what else probably happened?

According to the title, the rape of a child.

ALLEGATION

Given MCPS's propensity for sweeping things like this under the rug, we should assume serious allegations are true until shown otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

No, it’s called parenting. You should try it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

No, it’s called parenting. You should try it.

Congratulations if your kid never messes up! You are amazing. You should write a book to share your secrets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

No, it’s called parenting. You should try it.

Congratulations if your kid never messes up! You are amazing. You should write a book to share your secrets.

The example given involved a child pressuring other kids to expose themselves. That isn't messing up...that's a serious red flag that the child has been groomed and/or molested. No frickin way my kid would be around that one unsupervised. Further more, it would prompt me to watch my kids, if I had slacked off in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

No, it’s called parenting. You should try it.

Congratulations if your kid never messes up! You are amazing. You should write a book to share your secrets.

The example given involved a child pressuring other kids to expose themselves. That isn't messing up...that's a serious red flag that the child has been groomed and/or molested. No frickin way my kid would be around that one unsupervised. Further more, it would prompt me to watch my kids, if I had slacked off in the first place.

Chuckle..I posted that incident. The 5 year old is now 23 year old in a Phd program. She does have adhd which probably affected her impulse control at that time in her life (pre diagnosis/medication). All the cousins are quite close. I could not be happier that we let them spend time together. I know that this is just one case but it does again prove how some here practically turn the situation in to a crime when it was absolutely just a little kid trying to be fun or funny in an inappropriate way (and it was dealt with appropriately by her parents imo).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we homeschool our kids

Comments like this are so unhelpful. Should I go over to the homeschool forum and troll you guys when you are talking about the hard parts about homeschooling kids and brag about how my kid is doing better than your child? Would that be productive?