Twinbrook elementary rape allegation

[Anonymous]

I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

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Anonymous wrote:https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2023/11/after-parent-uses-nextdoor-to-notify.html

Parents coalition has the principal email which came after the post on NextDoor.
The description of the student beinf "prompted" by another student is wacky.

Victim blaming

That was my first thought but my second thought was a sociopath found a special needs kid and prompted them to violate the victim.
The fact that the letter leaves it open to victim blaming is outrageous

Oh come on. Isn’t this two 5 year olds? I have no idea what happened, but it’s not uncommon for kids that age to play “you show me yours and I’ll show you mine” - was there an assault or were kids playing inappropriately and then the boy got blamed for being the initiator? I think there is at least a decent chance that this parent is overreacting based on the school response.

It's NOT common and if your kids are doing this you have a parenting/supervison or something more serious issue.

I agree with the PP that if they are the same age why press charges... Just saying... I remember when I was in the 2nd and 3rd grade we played 'purple touch' guess could have been charge if it was present times.

The perpetrator was most likely abused or exposed to inappropriate behavior as most kids would not think to do it. If for anything to get the child help and get the kids in different classrooms. If they do it to one child, they will do it to others. Your parents needed to supervise you better.

The original post makes it sound like there could possibly have been another victim.

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

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When my child was in pre-K, a slightly older child asked/told my child to perform a sex act. My child said no and got a teacher. When I learned about this, my main emotion was relief that my child knew to say no because we'd had those conversations at home, and deep concern for the other child. I asked that the kids be separated, that the school ensure the other child meet with a psychologist, etc.

What I didn't do, because I have a sense of proportionality, is to take to every Listserve and bulletin board in the tristate area to claim "attempted rape."

Sometimes scary things happen, but there are multiple CHILDREN involved in this story and nothing OP has said in their post suggests any sort of empathy for the other child involved. OP also hasn't clarified what they want the school to do beyond what is already being done according to the principal's email.

[Anonymous]

I’m very sorry something bad happened to your child, OP. It’s hard to tell from your posts what happened. When my daughter was 4, a slightly older male friend asked to see or touch her genitals (it was unclear later exactly what he had asked). I walked in when they both had their pants pulled down but he hadn’t touched her. I was shocked that he would ask and shocked that she would say yes. But that’s not attempted rape.

I of course don’t know if what happened to your child is similar, but I do want to caution you against overreacting. This will become so much worse for your daughter if she feels from you that it was a big, horrible, scandalous, scary thing. She can feel your anxiety about this. You of course need to take it seriously and you need to make sure she’s safe, but you also need to not scare her.

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

I assume it’s more than language. Probably touching. But one 5 year old touching another 5 year old is not attempted rape. Obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was posted on NextDoor
https://nextdoor.com/p/PzM77QsckZnp?utm_source=share&extras=NTA4MDAyMDg%3D

My daughter is currently a student at Twinbrook Elementary School. She was sexually abused on the playground at recess. We met with the principal and guidance counselor and my daughter gave details about the abuse and even the name of the abuser. The principal and guidance counselor did not seem to be taking the situation seriously, so my family and I called the police to be present with us and open an investigation. Once the officer showed up, the principal and guidance counselor refused to speak with us any further and locked themselves in the office stating they had "meetings" for the rest of the day.
We sat with the officer and security guard giving our statement, letting our daughter give her statement, and open a full investigation. We currently have a open investigation with the police, special victims unit, and a local hospital.
The school has only stated that they would "follow up" but no action has been taken.
I am writing this because my daughter named another victim who was possibly abused as well, and her family has yet to be notified.
If you know any families with kids that go to Twinbrook Elementary please let them know that there was an attempted rape of a five year old during recess under the school's care and they are doing nothing about it except seemingly trying to cover the situation up.
We of course pulled our daughter out of the school, obtained a lawyer and contacted a local news reporter.

You handled this situation correctly. Always get the police involved. You cannot trust MCPS administration/central office to handle things correctly or justly.

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Anonymous wrote:This was posted on NextDoor
https://nextdoor.com/p/PzM77QsckZnp?utm_source=share&extras=NTA4MDAyMDg%3D

My daughter is currently a student at Twinbrook Elementary School. She was sexually abused on the playground at recess. We met with the principal and guidance counselor and my daughter gave details about the abuse and even the name of the abuser. The principal and guidance counselor did not seem to be taking the situation seriously, so my family and I called the police to be present with us and open an investigation. Once the officer showed up, the principal and guidance counselor refused to speak with us any further and locked themselves in the office stating they had "meetings" for the rest of the day.
We sat with the officer and security guard giving our statement, letting our daughter give her statement, and open a full investigation. We currently have a open investigation with the police, special victims unit, and a local hospital.
The school has only stated that they would "follow up" but no action has been taken.
I am writing this because my daughter named another victim who was possibly abused as well, and her family has yet to be notified.
If you know any families with kids that go to Twinbrook Elementary please let them know that there was an attempted rape of a five year old during recess under the school's care and they are doing nothing about it except seemingly trying to cover the situation up.
We of course pulled our daughter out of the school, obtained a lawyer and contacted a local news reporter.

You handled this situation correctly. Always get the police involved. You cannot trust MCPS administration/central office to handle things correctly or justly.

they are not trained to, the procedure for the schools is to notify the police immediately and to NOT do their own investigation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

+1

When my child was in pre-K, a slightly older child asked/told my child to perform a sex act. My child said no and got a teacher. When I learned about this, my main emotion was relief that my child knew to say no because we'd had those conversations at home, and deep concern for the other child. I asked that the kids be separated, that the school ensure the other child meet with a psychologist, etc.

What I didn't do, because I have a sense of proportionality, is to take to every Listserve and bulletin board in the tristate area to claim "attempted rape."

Sometimes scary things happen, but there are multiple CHILDREN involved in this story and nothing OP has said in their post suggests any sort of empathy for the other child involved. OP also hasn't clarified what they want the school to do beyond what is already being done according to the principal's email.

And I would have gone scorched Earth. Not because of "proportionality" or lack thereof, but because I don't play when it cones to my kid's safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

+1

When my child was in pre-K, a slightly older child asked/told my child to perform a sex act. My child said no and got a teacher. When I learned about this, my main emotion was relief that my child knew to say no because we'd had those conversations at home, and deep concern for the other child. I asked that the kids be separated, that the school ensure the other child meet with a psychologist, etc.

What I didn't do, because I have a sense of proportionality, is to take to every Listserve and bulletin board in the tristate area to claim "attempted rape."

Sometimes scary things happen, but there are multiple CHILDREN involved in this story and nothing OP has said in their post suggests any sort of empathy for the other child involved. OP also hasn't clarified what they want the school to do beyond what is already being done according to the principal's email.

And I would have gone scorched Earth. Not because of "proportionality" or lack thereof, but because I don't play when it cones to my kid's safety.

+1

And I do not leave this incidents to MCPS when they have a clear pattern of not believing or protecting victims.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

MCPS principal has entered the thread it seems.

Nope Im a parent who has actually taken classes and read books and stays informed about normal behaviors for this age group, sexual assault trauma, how to prevent it, and what to do IF something happens. At this age, as soon as your child makes a hint or suggestions of impropriety. You do not continue to ask them questions. You take them to a counselor trained in sexual assault and play/art therapy. If there is discussions about insertion or penetration, then you have to have your kid examined by a sexual assault nurse.
Kids tend to shut down or answer what adults want to hear, especially if they know something untoward/bad happened. These individuals are trained to be able to determine if something did happen and to what extent. In the meantime, you tell the school that the children need to be separated and if they wont/cant, you remove your child. If evidence is discovered, you make a police report.

I absolutely understand the knee jerk "scorched earth" reaction. But its not helpful, its not evidence-based, and it wont get you the outcome you want, which is that nothing happened to your kid. Your focus needs to be on your kid not the perpetrator, which is a kid their same age who is likely been abused, and if its a kid >3 years older than your child who was left unsupervised with them then you have a case against MCPS for unsafe practices.

[Anonymous]

Just FYI, in MD, digital penetration can be considered rape.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your child was interviewed by a psychologist or counselor trained in sexual assault before making allegations correct?

So before you call the police to report a crime (ie, make an allegation), you have to call a psychologist first?

DP. I’m fairly sure the police would not be my first stop if my 5 year old reported something like this. Keep in mind that we do not know exactly what happened. I’m assuming it involved very inappropriate language by a 5 year old who is exposed to the language at home. I don’t actually think “attemped rape” is possible between 5 year olds. So my first priority would be that the school address the discipline issue as needed.

I assume it’s more than language. Probably touching. But one 5 year old touching another 5 year old is not attempted rape. Obviously.

Maybe I missed something, but do we know for sure that the perpetrator(s) were also 5? Isn’t twinbrook a K-5 school?