Twinbrook elementary rape allegation

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Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

yes of course, but a 5 year old cannot commit attempted rape as a matter of fact or law.

It doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be investigated and addressed but it’s not rape.

Correct, but it's also not clear to me what the OP wants the school to do. It sounds like the school administration met with the impacted family, including the principal. OP involved the police, which is their right, but it's still not clear what OP wanted and didn't get from the school.

Everyone involved here is a child, and even the "perp" has a right to privacy and a right to receive the appropriate services. Reading between the lines, it seems like maybe OP wanted expulsion or summary execution for the other child involved, and then took to the listserves when the school didn't immediately bend to their will.

This is one of the measured responses about the situation based on the limited information that we have. People are out here speculating about the facts without any first hand knowledge of the situation

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Anonymous wrote:I have raised all boys and am shocked by the apologists in this thread. Private parts and hands to yourself are concepts every 3 year old understands and something we talk about from an early age. 99.9 percent of children do NOT touch each other inappropriately at school. That one and possibly 2 children did is outrageous and should be investigated and dealt with strongly.

yes of course, but a 5 year old cannot commit attempted rape as a matter of fact or law.

It doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t be investigated and addressed but it’s not rape.

Correct, but it's also not clear to me what the OP wants the school to do. It sounds like the school administration met with the impacted family, including the principal. OP involved the police, which is their right, but it's still not clear what OP wanted and didn't get from the school.

Everyone involved here is a child, and even the "perp" has a right to privacy and a right to receive the appropriate services. Reading between the lines, it seems like maybe OP wanted expulsion or summary execution for the other child involved, and then took to the listserves when the school didn't immediately bend to their will.

This is one of the measured responses about the situation based on the limited information that we have. People are out here speculating about the facts without any first hand knowledge of the situation

OP wants people to know what happened. Because everyone from MCPS to MCPD to the near non-existent local media is going to try to hide this incident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is another post today about an assault at JWMS. And how MCPS didn’t take it seriously. So frustrating.

what happened there?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we homeschool our kids

how lonely that must be for them to not have anyone else in the "school" with them.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

I guess you don't allow your kids sleepovers either? Or room sharing with siblings? Or any play time under forts or in tents? Or with grandparents or uncles/aunts or cousins?

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Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, in MD, digital penetration can be considered rape.

But not by a 5 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

I guess you don't allow your kids sleepovers either? Or room sharing with siblings? Or any play time under forts or in tents? Or with grandparents or uncles/aunts or cousins?

My kids have never had an interest in sleepovers. Why would they need to share a room? They only go with trusted people. Shocker, some of us actually put thought and care into our kids, as well as the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

I guess you don't allow your kids sleepovers either? Or room sharing with siblings? Or any play time under forts or in tents? Or with grandparents or uncles/aunts or cousins?

My kids have never had an interest in sleepovers. Why would they need to share a room? They only go with trusted people. Shocker, some of us actually put thought and care into our kids, as well as the time.

Oh this is rich. People who allow sleepovers don’t put thought and care into their kids.
Go eff yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, in MD, digital penetration can be considered rape.

But not by a 5 year old.

Of course it can. How do you even think this stuff is ok?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

No, it’s called parenting. You should try it.

Congratulations if your kid never messes up! You are amazing. You should write a book to share your secrets.

The example given involved a child pressuring other kids to expose themselves. That isn't messing up...that's a serious red flag that the child has been groomed and/or molested. No frickin way my kid would be around that one unsupervised. Further more, it would prompt me to watch my kids, if I had slacked off in the first place.

Chuckle..I posted that incident. The 5 year old is now 23 year old in a Phd program. She does have adhd which probably affected her impulse control at that time in her life (pre diagnosis/medication). All the cousins are quite close. I could not be happier that we let them spend time together. I know that this is just one case but it does again prove how some here practically turn the situation in to a crime when it was absolutely just a little kid trying to be fun or funny in an inappropriate way (and it was dealt with appropriately by her parents imo).

If your child has ADHD and impulse control, this is even more reason why you failed with parenting if you didn't think to supervise your child. Its not funny or appropriate and people like you are why kids are acting up so much at school an other situations as you don't seem to think you need to supervise and teach appropriate behavior. But, this is why I'd prefer kids at my house than going over to a house like yours where bad things will happen and be ignored that can be traumatizing for a child.

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Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, in MD, digital penetration can be considered rape.

But not by a 5 year old.

Of course it can. How do you even think this stuff is ok?

No one is saying “this” is ok (“this” in quotation marks because we have no idea what OP is saying happened). Obviously. We are saying the people getting hysterical about a 5 year old raping another 5 year old on the playground need to take a beat and consider getting more facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

No, it’s called parenting. You should try it.

Congratulations if your kid never messes up! You are amazing. You should write a book to share your secrets.

The example given involved a child pressuring other kids to expose themselves. That isn't messing up...that's a serious red flag that the child has been groomed and/or molested. No frickin way my kid would be around that one unsupervised. Further more, it would prompt me to watch my kids, if I had slacked off in the first place.

Chuckle..I posted that incident. The 5 year old is now 23 year old in a Phd program. She does have adhd which probably affected her impulse control at that time in her life (pre diagnosis/medication). All the cousins are quite close. I could not be happier that we let them spend time together. I know that this is just one case but it does again prove how some here practically turn the situation in to a crime when it was absolutely just a little kid trying to be fun or funny in an inappropriate way (and it was dealt with appropriately by her parents imo).

If your child has ADHD and impulse control, this is even more reason why you failed with parenting if you didn't think to supervise your child. Its not funny or appropriate and people like you are why kids are acting up so much at school an other situations as you don't seem to think you need to supervise and teach appropriate behavior. But, this is why I'd prefer kids at my house than going over to a house like yours where bad things will happen and be ignored that can be traumatizing for a child.

NP but I beseech folks to just ignore this poster and any other holier-than-thou posters who are apparently calling parents who don’t have eyes on their children at all times bad parents. Don’t feed the beasts. We all know they are absurd and you don’t have to defend yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

You monitor your kids every moment? Unusual!

No, it’s called parenting. You should try it.

Congratulations if your kid never messes up! You are amazing. You should write a book to share your secrets.

The example given involved a child pressuring other kids to expose themselves. That isn't messing up...that's a serious red flag that the child has been groomed and/or molested. No frickin way my kid would be around that one unsupervised. Further more, it would prompt me to watch my kids, if I had slacked off in the first place.

Chuckle..I posted that incident. The 5 year old is now 23 year old in a Phd program. She does have adhd which probably affected her impulse control at that time in her life (pre diagnosis/medication). All the cousins are quite close. I could not be happier that we let them spend time together. I know that this is just one case but it does again prove how some here practically turn the situation in to a crime when it was absolutely just a little kid trying to be fun or funny in an inappropriate way (and it was dealt with appropriately by her parents imo).

If your child has ADHD and impulse control, this is even more reason why you failed with parenting if you didn't think to supervise your child. Its not funny or appropriate and people like you are why kids are acting up so much at school an other situations as you don't seem to think you need to supervise and teach appropriate behavior. But, this is why I'd prefer kids at my house than going over to a house like yours where bad things will happen and be ignored that can be traumatizing for a child.

NP but I beseech folks to just ignore this poster and any other holier-than-thou posters who are apparently calling parents who don’t have eyes on their children at all times bad parents. Don’t feed the beasts. We all know they are absurd and you don’t have to defend yourself.

And they did not even read the post well since the poster was posting about a family member not their own child. You are correct to ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what happened, but "playing doctor" is an age old game with younger kids.

It is interesting how one persons "playing doctor" and another persons "rapist" and "perp" can describe the exact same event.

I think we can all agree that, whatever occurred should not have occurred at school. 5 year olds should be supervised.

Agreed it should not have happened. Yet I am thinking back to a family Thanksgiving when my kids were about that age. My DS ran up stairs and said his cousin wanted everyone to pull their pants down as part of a (made up) game they were playing. I guess some followed her instructions. Her parents spoke to her about how this was no an appropriate activity etc. She apologized. We made sure all the kids knew they should never take their clothes off as part of a game. No one thought of her as a "perp" just a 5 year old not quite behaving as we all would have hoped.

It absolutely sounds like something more was going on, including lack of supervision and bad parenting.

Elementary age cousins playing together is a terrible thing for sure!

This isn't play and the kids should be monitored. Poor parenting.

I guess you don't allow your kids sleepovers either? Or room sharing with siblings? Or any play time under forts or in tents? Or with grandparents or uncles/aunts or cousins?

My kids have never had an interest in sleepovers. Why would they need to share a room? They only go with trusted people. Shocker, some of us actually put thought and care into our kids, as well as the time.

Oh this is rich. People who allow sleepovers don’t put thought and care into their kids.
Go eff yourself.

Your kids are clearly better off in someone else's house.

You are a sh¡tty person. Full stop.

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You guys are way off topic now. SMH