To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

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Nothing about he put his stupid son in law in charge of the Middle East.



Showing you have no sense of foreign policy or the Middle East.
Trump knows this better than you, who just reflexively attacks anything done by Trump. echoing talking points issued by the likes of Colbert or Noah.
Even Vin Diesel understands this subject better than you.

Combined with looking the other way on Qatari agent/Washington Post reporter Khashoggi and killing Suleimani, sending Jared was what made the Abraham Accords happen.
Extending these accords to Saudi Arabia is likely what made Iran start the current war, in an attempt to stop normalization, so in that sense sending his stupid son in law is a bad thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I can not vote for him. His siding with the Israelis is just the last straw.


Because Hamas is so wonderful?


No, because abetting a country intent on committing genocide is worse than Hamas.


I guess you aren't familiar with Hamas's goal of eradicating the Jews?


I don't know if that's written somewhere, what we are seeing at the hands of Israel is actually happening in real time. No goal, no talk, total annihilation.


Wow. Ok.

http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm

Here’s the relevant section of the Hamas Charter, which I linked above:

The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter, given in full below. Following are highlights.

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Muslim generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."
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Hamas cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in their charter as “evidence of the Zionist plan.”

LOL this is what you all are justifying.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump simply is not a valid legal or ethical option. For anyone.


The prosecutions of trump have jumped the shark. Any notion that it was a legit prosecution not based on politics and trying to get him off the ballot is gone. Even the ACLU is arguing on his behalf that this is going too far. Very banana republic to use the judicial branch to silence your political opponent. The gag order is bananas. The NY judge mugging happily for the cameras is too much. He was giggling. So undignified and unserious. So no, the fact that he is facing multiple criminal charges doesn’t matter to me AT ALL because they are entirely politically motivated.


Is your position then that no person running for president can be indicted and prosecuted? Or sued in a civil case?

In other words, does running for president grant you broad immunity from the justice system?


Nope. Not my position. But vague gag orders are unconstitutional on anyone. And timing his trial dates to align with primaries. Deeply political. And frankly charging him for classified documents issued when we know Biden and Pence both had documents and probably also Obama. And prosecutions in NY where charges are brought that have never been brought before. Political. So I don’t think he should get off or be able to avoid accountability but the targeted selective prosecutions of him is rather stunning if your paying attention.


The DOJ asked for quick trials. Guess who asked for delays so they time with primaries and the general election?

Trumpity Trump Trump and the rest of Clan Treason.
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Anonymous wrote:

Nothing about he put his stupid son in law in charge of the Middle East.



Showing you have no sense of foreign policy or the Middle East.
Trump knows this better than you, who just reflexively attacks anything done by Trump. echoing talking points issued by the likes of Colbert or Noah.
Even Vin Diesel understands this subject better than you.

Combined with looking the other way on Qatari agent/Washington Post reporter Khashoggi and killing Suleimani, sending Jared was what made the Abraham Accords happen.
Extending these accords to Saudi Arabia is likely what made Iran start the current war, in an attempt to stop normalization, so in that sense sending his stupid son in law is a bad thing.

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AI. Badly generated.
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



I am in VA so I don't know how much my vote will matter BUT between disaster at the border and support of Israel with complete f*** you to American foreign policy, I am done and cannot vote for Biden in good conscience. Frankly, Trump can't be any worse than this. In 2024, the slogan that Trump is bad is not going to be enough for democrats. I never thought I would feel this way but here we are.


Signed - A lifelong democrat.


Then you have forgotten everything about Trump’s first term.

And remember he is currently being charged with multiple state and federal felony charges, including racketeering.

This country truly has the memory of a fruit fly.


Nah, these folks have Oppositional Defiance Disorder. They want to be independent and edgy.

If you disagree with how Biden has handled the Israel crisis, then you'd probably really hate how Trump would've given Bibi carte blanche for a legit genocide and full annexation of Gaza.


We don't really know this, it's an assumption. What we are seeing is reality.


Yes, we do. We also know that Russia-iran-Hamas are in cahoots. Trump was and is in cahoots with Russia. that puts a Trump US in the same axis against, NATO and the EU. Is that what you want?

(also, yes Netanyu was funding Hamas too)


Sorry. We are not falling for that again. It almost worked in 2016. We have gotten wise to your ways.

It was true then and it’s true now.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes it is.


100%. I live in Virginia. I'm voting Marianne Williamson. What is the difference between Biden and Trump/GOP? I don't see a sliver of difference.
I am also too upset to get out to vote next week. I have plans to be out of town and will not vote before I go.
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Anonymous wrote:Biden has been absolutely terrible and I have never voted Republican in my life and if a Republican candidate who was sane actually won the primary then I would consider voting for him. I disagree with Biden's handling of immigration, foreign policy decisions, and his response to the terrorist attack on Israel has been terrible and has already exposed US troops to danger and now the US is essentially financing genocide.

I'm an immigrant and I think the problem of illegal immigration has become unsustainable and is creating havoc in cities. I live in NY now and the mayor of NYC is really struggling to deal with the influx of people. Not enough shelter, medical care, or money to care for everyone. It is also tremendously unfair to the millions of people waiting legally to enter. I had family members who waited 15 plus years to obtain legal visas to come to the US under family sponsorship programs.


As an immigration attorney, I hear this a lot from immigrants who have gone through the decade+ slog to become a citizen. My own family members from Latin America say that they will vote GOP for the first time after voting Obama then Biden. The VZ immigrant influx has really impacted that push.
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



I am in VA so I don't know how much my vote will matter BUT between disaster at the border and support of Israel with complete f*** you to American foreign policy, I am done and cannot vote for Biden in good conscience. Frankly, Trump can't be any worse than this. In 2024, the slogan that Trump is bad is not going to be enough for democrats. I never thought I would feel this way but here we are.


Signed - A lifelong democrat.


Then you have forgotten everything about Trump’s first term.

And remember he is currently being charged with multiple state and federal felony charges, including racketeering.

This country truly has the memory of a fruit fly.


Nah, these folks have Oppositional Defiance Disorder. They want to be independent and edgy.

If you disagree with how Biden has handled the Israel crisis, then you'd probably really hate how Trump would've given Bibi carte blanche for a legit genocide and full annexation of Gaza.


We are watching a legit genocide and annexation of Gaza.
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



I am in VA so I don't know how much my vote will matter BUT between disaster at the border and support of Israel with complete f*** you to American foreign policy, I am done and cannot vote for Biden in good conscience. Frankly, Trump can't be any worse than this. In 2024, the slogan that Trump is bad is not going to be enough for democrats. I never thought I would feel this way but here we are.


Signed - A lifelong democrat.


Then you have forgotten everything about Trump’s first term.

And remember he is currently being charged with multiple state and federal felony charges, including racketeering.

This country truly has the memory of a fruit fly.


Nah, these folks have Oppositional Defiance Disorder. They want to be independent and edgy.

If you disagree with how Biden has handled the Israel crisis, then you'd probably really hate how Trump would've given Bibi carte blanche for a legit genocide and full annexation of Gaza.


We are watching a legit genocide and annexation of Gaza.


No. We are watching an actual war. Started by Hamas, from Gaza.
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



I am in VA so I don't know how much my vote will matter BUT between disaster at the border and support of Israel with complete f*** you to American foreign policy, I am done and cannot vote for Biden in good conscience. Frankly, Trump can't be any worse than this. In 2024, the slogan that Trump is bad is not going to be enough for democrats. I never thought I would feel this way but here we are.


Signed - A lifelong democrat.


Then you have forgotten everything about Trump’s first term.

And remember he is currently being charged with multiple state and federal felony charges, including racketeering.

This country truly has the memory of a fruit fly.


Nah, these folks have Oppositional Defiance Disorder. They want to be independent and edgy.

If you disagree with how Biden has handled the Israel crisis, then you'd probably really hate how Trump would've given Bibi carte blanche for a legit genocide and full annexation of Gaza.


We are watching a legit genocide and annexation of Gaza.


No. We are watching an actual war. Started by Hamas, from Gaza.


You have a short memory. Or a selective one.
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



It’s absolutely worth it. I was just talking with some friends today about how much better life was 5 or so years ago under Trump. Will we vote for him? No way. But none of us plan to vote for Biden again. One friend even used the term “suicidal” to describe another vote for Biden.

Oh and we’re all in NOVA so yea it matters.


Are you forgetting the pandemic? Good lord.


I remember a GLOBAL pandemic that was started in China. How exactly was Trump responsible for that?
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



It’s absolutely worth it. I was just talking with some friends today about how much better life was 5 or so years ago under Trump. Will we vote for him? No way. But none of us plan to vote for Biden again. One friend even used the term “suicidal” to describe another vote for Biden.

Oh and we’re all in NOVA so yea it matters.


Are you forgetting the pandemic? Good lord.


I remember a GLOBAL pandemic that was started in China. How exactly was Trump responsible for that?


Trump was a bastion of leadership during the pandemic. He had great ideas like sticking a flashlight up your *ss to cure Covid should be looked into.
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



It’s absolutely worth it. I was just talking with some friends today about how much better life was 5 or so years ago under Trump. Will we vote for him? No way. But none of us plan to vote for Biden again. One friend even used the term “suicidal” to describe another vote for Biden.

Oh and we’re all in NOVA so yea it matters.


Are you forgetting the pandemic? Good lord.


I remember a GLOBAL pandemic that was started in China. How exactly was Trump responsible for that?


Trump defunded the CDC office in Beijing. He didn’t work in global fora to stop its spread because he (a) didn’t think it was a thing, (b) didn’t believe in working in global institutions , (c) who knows.

Compare Bush and SARS and Obama and MERS. Both of which had GLOBAL pandemic potential.

That’s how Trump was responsible for Covid.
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Anonymous wrote:If you live in a state that was at all a close Biden victory, just know that you are making it more likely that Trump will win again.

Be frustrated all you want, but ask yourself whether it’s worth a second Trump term.



It’s absolutely worth it. I was just talking with some friends today about how much better life was 5 or so years ago under Trump. Will we vote for him? No way. But none of us plan to vote for Biden again. One friend even used the term “suicidal” to describe another vote for Biden.

Oh and we’re all in NOVA so yea it matters.


Are you forgetting the pandemic? Good lord.


I remember a GLOBAL pandemic that was started in China. How exactly was Trump responsible for that?


+100
I remember he was called "xenophobic" for wanting to shut down travel from affected nations early on.
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