Notre Dame reaffirms University’s commitment to legacy admissions after Supreme Court ruling

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are borrowing for the motto from the Catholic hospitals, “ no margin, no mission.”.

Give me a break with this stuff! The US healthcare system would collapse if it wasn't for hospitals run by facets if the Catholic Church. Of course, you need a margin to remain open. What do you expect the institutions to do?

Also, if Notre Dame were to eliminate legacy admissions, it would change the fabric of the whole school. Part of what makes Notre Dame exceptional is the strong alumni/inter generational component. I think they are absolutely doing the right thing.

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No one should expect ND to be on the cutting edge of anything, so of course they are defending legacy admissions. Being in-bred and unexceptional is a badge of honor.

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

College age student demographics is about 52% white. Not 70.

The Midwest is probably heavily white. I live in California, whites are a stark minority, especially in that age group. Hence UC’s are mostly people of color. Colleges in certain regions tend to reflect their population, regardless of whether they are private or public.

Notre Dame is a national school where only a minority of its students are from the Midwest.

Geographically, the largest percentage of ND students are from the Midwest and it’s not close.
Actual facts bear this out. Go look.

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They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

College age student demographics is about 52% white. Not 70.

The Midwest is probably heavily white. I live in California, whites are a stark minority, especially in that age group. Hence UC’s are mostly people of color. Colleges in certain regions tend to reflect their population, regardless of whether they are private or public.

Notre Dame is a national school where only a minority of its students are from the Midwest.

Geographically, the largest percentage of ND students are from the Midwest and it’s not close.
Actual facts bear this out. Go look.

According to Notre Dame, for the class of 2022

Within the U.S., about a quarter of the class are from the Northeast; 19 percent are from the Central Midwest; 19 percent are from the Southwest and West; 15 percent are from the Midwest; and 14 percent are from the Southeast. Nine percent of students are international or U.S. students living outside of the country.

Top five states sending students? Illinois, California, Indiana (mostly from South Bend), New York and NJ.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Can you point me to the part of the constitution that deals with non-legacy students being a protected class?

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

College age student demographics is about 52% white. Not 70.

The Midwest is probably heavily white. I live in California, whites are a stark minority, especially in that age group. Hence UC’s are mostly people of color. Colleges in certain regions tend to reflect their population, regardless of whether they are private or public.

Notre Dame is a national school where only a minority of its students are from the Midwest.

Geographically, the largest percentage of ND students are from the Midwest and it’s not close.
Actual facts bear this out. Go look.

According to Notre Dame, for the class of 2022

Within the U.S., about a quarter of the class are from the Northeast; 19 percent are from the Central Midwest; 19 percent are from the Southwest and West; 15 percent are from the Midwest; and 14 percent are from the Southeast. Nine percent of students are international or U.S. students living outside of the country.

Top five states sending students? Illinois, California, Indiana (mostly from South Bend), New York and NJ.

So 34 percent of their students are from the midwest, but they created their own regions to make it look like fewer. I wonder what states they slipped into the North East and South West to cut the number even further

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

College age student demographics is about 52% white. Not 70.

The Midwest is probably heavily white. I live in California, whites are a stark minority, especially in that age group. Hence UC’s are mostly people of color. Colleges in certain regions tend to reflect their population, regardless of whether they are private or public.

Notre Dame is a national school where only a minority of its students are from the Midwest.

Geographically, the largest percentage of ND students are from the Midwest and it’s not close.
Actual facts bear this out. Go look.

According to Notre Dame, for the class of 2022

Within the U.S., about a quarter of the class are from the Northeast; 19 percent are from the Central Midwest; 19 percent are from the Southwest and West; 15 percent are from the Midwest; and 14 percent are from the Southeast. Nine percent of students are international or U.S. students living outside of the country.

Top five states sending students? Illinois, California, Indiana (mostly from South Bend), New York and NJ.

So 34 percent of their students are from the midwest, but they created their own regions to make it look like fewer. I wonder what states they slipped into the North East and South West to cut the number even further

You’re so predictable

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32% of ND Class of 2027 hails from the Midwest.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re setting up the Supreme Court case. Supreme Court scholars, watchers and your dog-walker, all can see that by the same reasoning that minority admissions failed, legacy admissions must also fail. ND challenges this to the Supreme Court and their friends there will carve out a nice exception for them. Mark it.

Can you point me to the part of the constitution that deals with non-legacy students being a protected class?

Not sure if you’re being an idiot intentionally or you’re just that ignorant, but clearly to point is the Supremes will need to distinguish legacy preferences from the now illegal race preferences. And that will not be a problem for this court.

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

College age student demographics is about 52% white. Not 70.

The Midwest is probably heavily white. I live in California, whites are a stark minority, especially in that age group. Hence UC’s are mostly people of color. Colleges in certain regions tend to reflect their population, regardless of whether they are private or public.

Notre Dame is a national school where only a minority of its students are from the Midwest.

Geographically, the largest percentage of ND students are from the Midwest and it’s not close.
Actual facts bear this out. Go look.

According to Notre Dame, for the class of 2022

Within the U.S., about a quarter of the class are from the Northeast; 19 percent are from the Central Midwest; 19 percent are from the Southwest and West; 15 percent are from the Midwest; and 14 percent are from the Southeast. Nine percent of students are international or U.S. students living outside of the country.

Top five states sending students? Illinois, California, Indiana (mostly from South Bend), New York and NJ.

So 34 percent of their students are from the midwest, but they created their own regions to make it look like fewer. I wonder what states they slipped into the North East and South West to cut the number even further

I wonder how many of those kids from NE and SW have parents who are formerly from the midwest and are alums. Almost all of the alums of ND that I have met in the southwest are originally from the midwest area.

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

College age student demographics is about 52% white. Not 70.

The Midwest is probably heavily white. I live in California, whites are a stark minority, especially in that age group. Hence UC’s are mostly people of color. Colleges in certain regions tend to reflect their population, regardless of whether they are private or public.

Notre Dame is a national school where only a minority of its students are from the Midwest.

Geographically, the largest percentage of ND students are from the Midwest and it’s not close.
Actual facts bear this out. Go look.

And you need to learn how the read. I said “only a minority of its students are from the Midwest” and it’s 100 percent accurate. Actual facts bear this out. Look it up.

Top ten home states of Notre Dame students, in order.

Illinois
California
New York
New Jersey
Indiana
Ohio
Texas
Florida
Pennsylvania
Michigan

About 1/3 of Notre Dame students are from what might be broadly defined as the Midwest, 1/4 are from the NE, 20 percent are from the South and 15 percent are from the West, and the rest are international.

It’s hardly dominated by the Midwest

[Anonymous]

According to College Raptor, Notre Dame is the Number One most geographically diverse college or university in the country (Grinnell being second). Say what you want about other elements of Notre Dame’s diversity, or lack thereof, but you will be hard-pressed to find any ranking of geographical diversity where Notre Dame does not rise to or very near the top.

It’s focus has never been the midwest, primarily because (outside of Chicago) the Catholic centers of the USA are primarily elsewhere.

https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2023-university-rankings/top-25-most-geographically-diverse-college-2023-rankings/

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Anonymous wrote:Turning their backs on the portion of the Church growing the most and putting butts into pews: Hispanic/Latino American Catholics

Unless nd opens a branch campus in Miami or El Paso, Latinos aren’t gonna go to south bend

Know several wealthy Latinos who went to Notre Dame. Families from Latin Am countries.

+1. Yeah, this is silly. I'm from TX and know a handful of hispanic kids from my class who went to ND. Plus friends from MX. It is quite popular among Catholics, including latinos from the US and abroad.

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Anonymous wrote:32% of ND Class of 2027 hails from the Midwest.

Midwest — the largest demographic by far. As reported by ND. Look it up.