Notre Dame reaffirms University’s commitment to legacy admissions after Supreme Court ruling

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Turning their backs on the portion of the Church growing the most and putting butts into pews: Hispanic/Latino American Catholics

Unless nd opens a branch campus in Miami or El Paso, Latinos aren’t gonna go to south bend

Know several wealthy Latinos who went to Notre Dame. Families from Latin Am countries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

They'll be out the T25 in 3 years!

And neither they nor their applicants will care. USNWR becomes more and more irrelevant with each passing day.

[Anonymous]

Look at ND, setting up its argument that a policy with obvious anti-Asian effects is motivated by something other than anti-Asian bias. And just as C4TJ filed the cert petition!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

They want to admit Catholics of all different backgrounds! Surprising and concerning that a (checks notes) Catholic university would do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

So they admit white people at about the same percent as they exist in the US population. Very surprising, so many schools go out of their way to make sure that doesn’t happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

Isn’t the country as a whole 70% white? That seems like a reasonable diversity number for ND, especially since they are mostly attracting Catholics, a religion not that popular among African-Americans and many Asian groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

So they admit white people at about the same percent as they exist in the US population. Very surprising, so many schools go out of their way to make sure that doesn’t happen.

Those schools don’t really have to “go out of their way” to limit white enrollment. As a group, Asian Americans are much, much more academically qualified than white applicants. Most kids scoring over 1450 on the SAT are Asian, for example. So any school that cares about grades and test scores should be predominantly Asian. They’re going out of their way to stay 40% white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at ND, setting up its argument that a policy with obvious anti-Asian effects is motivated by something other than anti-Asian bias. And just as C4TJ filed the cert petition!

Are non-Catholic Asians clamoring to get into ND? I would be surprised if it was a popular choice among non-Catholic communities and that is fine. Not all schools need to attract all people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

They want to admit Catholics of all different backgrounds! Surprising and concerning that a (checks notes) Catholic university would do this.

No they don't. ND is only 3.4% African american!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turning their backs on the portion of the Church growing the most and putting butts into pews: Hispanic/Latino American Catholics

Unless nd opens a branch campus in Miami or El Paso, Latinos aren’t gonna go to south bend

Know several wealthy Latinos who went to Notre Dame. Families from Latin Am countries.

Yes, that would be the 11% latino that ND admits. Whooptidoo, especially in light of the fat that ND is only 3.3% black

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://ndsmcobserver.com/2023/08/kidder-reaffirms-universitys-commitment-to-legacy-admissions-after-supreme-court-ruling/

As a legacy family with one child who just graduated from ND and one in HS who really wants to attend, we are relieved.

As legacy admissions programs at elite universities face heightened scrutiny in the wake of the Supreme Court’s ruling striking down affirmative action in college admissions, Notre Dame reaffirmed the practice will continue to play a role in admissions.

Micki Kidder, vice president for undergraduate enrollment, explained in an interview with The Observer that legacy admissions are still important to Notre Dame going forward.

“Notre Dame alumni are deeply devoted to this place,” Kidder said. “I would argue it’s actually legendary within higher education, possibly unmatched within higher education … This dedication is something we greatly value and we don’t want to ignore it.”

As a legacy family with one child in high school and one in middle school, I am tremendously disappointed in my alma matre. Off to send yet another email to Fr Jenkins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What this tells me is that ND doesn't even care about USNWR rankings. If they did, they would be trying to admit more people "of different backgrounds." Clearly they have no intention of adjusting to the whims of the USNWR methodology tweaks. This is what we love about ND...keep on doing what you do well and don't worry about perceptions.

What you really love about ND is that it is 65% white and happy keeping it that way. Like we don’t know what “different backgrounds” means.

So they admit white people at about the same percent as they exist in the US population. Very surprising, so many schools go out of their way to make sure that doesn’t happen.

Those schools don’t really have to “go out of their way” to limit white enrollment. As a group, Asian Americans are much, much more academically qualified than white applicants. Most kids scoring over 1450 on the SAT are Asian, for example. So any school that cares about grades and test scores should be predominantly Asian. They’re going out of their way to stay 40% white.

I see, so let’s say Asians who represent 7.5% of the US population attend college at twice the rate of their population percentage then they would have 15% representation at many schools.

We know that many other URMs for a variety of reasons are underrepresented at many schools. So, when you look at colleges “by the numbers” pages something just doesn’t add up, does it?

Although, if I remember correctly some schools such as the University of Maryland count Asians as white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turning their backs on the portion of the Church growing the most and putting butts into pews: Hispanic/Latino American Catholics

Unless nd opens a branch campus in Miami or El Paso, Latinos aren’t gonna go to south bend

Know several wealthy Latinos who went to Notre Dame. Families from Latin Am countries.

Yes, that would be the 11% latino that ND admits. Whooptidoo, especially in light of the fat that ND is only 3.3% black

From Wikipedia: "There are currently around 3 million Black Catholics in the United States, making up 6% of the total population of African Americans, who are mostly Protestant, and 4% of American Catholics." So if 4% of Catholics are black, it would seem that the % of blacks at ND matches the population, considering most students are Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Right. Hispanics won’t consider ND because of the location…go to nearby Chicago & you’ll rarely meet a Hispanic. Unless maybe when you walk down any street. 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://ndsmcobserver.com/2023/08/kidder-reaffirms-universitys-commitment-to-legacy-admissions-after-supreme-court-ruling/

As a legacy family with one child who just graduated from ND and one in HS who really wants to attend, we are relieved.

As legacy admissions programs at elite universities face heightened scrutiny in the wake of the Supreme Court’s ruling striking down affirmative action in college admissions, Notre Dame reaffirmed the practice will continue to play a role in admissions.

Micki Kidder, vice president for undergraduate enrollment, explained in an interview with The Observer that legacy admissions are still important to Notre Dame going forward.

“Notre Dame alumni are deeply devoted to this place,” Kidder said. “I would argue it’s actually legendary within higher education, possibly unmatched within higher education … This dedication is something we greatly value and we don’t want to ignore it.”

As a legacy family with one child in high school and one in middle school, I am tremendously disappointed in my alma matre. Off to send yet another email to Fr Jenkins.

Father Jenkins cares about the donor families, not you.

There are many Catholic Asians. This isn’t about Asian discrimination. It’s about preserving the institution and the endowment.

Be practical for a minute…do you really think big universities could support niche fields and scholarship kids without them? Look at the complaints on the WVU thread where people are upset they are eliminating majors with literally 4 students. Why? They can’t afford the programs any more. ND is being responsible by keeping the cash flow coming in.