What happens if FCPS isn't staffed by the first day of school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers here are also paid disproportionately low compared to other teachers in high COL areas. My sister makes 6 figures in a seattle suburb with 8 years of experience. If I were a brand new baby teacher, I'd be headed elsewhere.

Even areas that are not high COL. I have 30 years with FCPS. A friend teaches an ES grade outside of Pittsburgh and is making over $115k.

The average teacher pay in the Pittsburgh metro area is 56k. Not sure how your friend is managing this salary.

A teacher with a MA+30 at the top of the pay scale (as I assume this 30-year teacher’s friend is) makes well into 6 figures in the district I grew up in around metro Pittsburgh - only the houses for those teachers to live in are half the price!

You’re referencing my post. Yes. We both have similar degrees and experience. We both graduated the same year from a PA state university.

I don’t think it’s quite half the price (depending on the suburb), but it is significantly cheaper housing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers here are also paid disproportionately low compared to other teachers in high COL areas. My sister makes 6 figures in a seattle suburb with 8 years of experience. If I were a brand new baby teacher, I'd be headed elsewhere.

Even areas that are not high COL. I have 30 years with FCPS. A friend teaches an ES grade outside of Pittsburgh and is making over $115k.

The average teacher pay in the Pittsburgh metro area is 56k. Not sure how your friend is managing this salary.

This is from a 2019 article, so I'm sure salaries are higher now.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2015/06/26/Quaker-Valley-board-approves-teachers-contract/stories/201506260048

Under the new pact, teachers will receive a raise of about 1.29 percent, although individual increases could be higher based on experience and education. The district's budget for teacher salaries is projected to rise 2.5 percent each year over the life of the contract. From the existing contract to the new pact, the starting salary for a teacher with a bachelor's degree will increase from $45,713 to $46,369, and the top-scale teacher salary will increase from $107,519 to $109,061.

[Anonymous]

There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

Even if it’s not relevant for you at your “highly regarded elementary school,” it is relevant for many other elementary schools. Did you realize that almost half of the schools in FCPS are title I, correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

LOL....it this a parody my highly regarded FCPS ES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

How is this defined?

ES Teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

Maybe they've already been filled with subs/teachers in training. You are assuming that 0 means the vacancies were filled by actual teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

Maybe they've already been filled with subs/teachers in training. You are assuming that 0 means the vacancies were filled by actual teachers.

This. Are school only has 1 opening but 2 teacher trainees and 1 long term sub.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

LOL....it this a parody my highly regarded FCPS ES

Definitely a troll. MS and HS also don’t have “Autsim Sped” listings. That’s for elementary schools with PAC or EAC programs.

[Anonymous]

What will happen is we will get a front raw seat to equity at its best. Now NOBODY will learn much of anything!

Since equity is the new priority and focus of FCPS, students will be the first ones to notice the shortcomings to this new approach, but the new equity soldiers at school will be so thrilled to convince them otherwise. The rest of the staff have already quit or moved somewhere else. As for the ones who decided to stay and teach under these circumstances without compromising their true calling as teachers, these are the true heroes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will happen is we will get a front raw seat to equity at its best. Now NOBODY will learn much of anything!

Since equity is the new priority and focus of FCPS, students will be the first ones to notice the shortcomings to this new approach, but the new equity soldiers at school will be so thrilled to convince them otherwise. The rest of the staff have already quit or moved somewhere else. As for the ones who decided to stay and teach under these circumstances without compromising their true calling as teachers, these are the true heroes!

mmhmm... "Equity soldiers"...Teachers are heroes for putting up with nutcases like you!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid started one year - I think it was 4th grade - without a teacher. He had a series of short term subs for the first week or two, then a long term sub for about 6 weeks. At that point the school gave up on hiring someone, split up his class, and added 8-9 kids to each of the other 3 classrooms. It was not good.

FCPS is a joke. They hire people with no teaching qualifications.
I don’t know how they are getting away with it.

What would you like them to do? Make qualified teachers appear out of thin air? And who would want to be a teacher nowadays?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will happen is we will get a front raw seat to equity at its best. Now NOBODY will learn much of anything!

Since equity is the new priority and focus of FCPS, students will be the first ones to notice the shortcomings to this new approach, but the new equity soldiers at school will be so thrilled to convince them otherwise. The rest of the staff have already quit or moved somewhere else. As for the ones who decided to stay and teach under these circumstances without compromising their true calling as teachers, these are the true heroes!

I’m not a teacher. I’m a nurse. And F people like you who think that anyone should put up with crappy conditions and be a martyr to “fulfill their calling.” You call them heroes but do you support them?The same people looking all shocked that there’s a shortage of teachers were blaming them for school closures and having fits 3 years ago. The equity soldiers are making teachers quit? I agree that lack of student accountability is one thing driving teachers out. But unfortunately it impacts all SES. And look at Florida-which is going to have a huge teacher shortage this year. I don’t think it’s the equity soldiers pushing them out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will happen is we will get a front raw seat to equity at its best. Now NOBODY will learn much of anything!

Since equity is the new priority and focus of FCPS, students will be the first ones to notice the shortcomings to this new approach, but the new equity soldiers at school will be so thrilled to convince them otherwise. The rest of the staff have already quit or moved somewhere else. As for the ones who decided to stay and teach under these circumstances without compromising their true calling as teachers, these are the true heroes!

No. This right here is a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are not that many vacancies. My (highly regarded) ES has 0. And the MS and HS we are zoned for have 2-3 each, mostly in autism SPED. So, not relevant for us.

If this comment doesn’t sum up one segment of our county (and country) perfectly, I don’t know what does.

PP states as fact that there are NOT that many vacancies.
And how does she “know” this fact?
Because there are no vacancies in her little utopia, therefore, vacancies do not exist.

Priceless.

Well, Miss Utopia, my neighborhood elementary school is short 2 K teachers, 1 2nd grade teacher, 1 3rd grade teacher, and 4 special ed teachers. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.