3% raise for teachers? What a joke FCPS!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, people need to stop comparing. The reality is teachers are leaving. Supply is low. Teaching is a high stress job. If you want teachers demands need to decrease and pay needs to increase. There are NO resumes coming in. So unless you are ok with random subs for your kid, parents need to really start understanding the job of a teacher in 2023 and why teachers should be paid way more for what they do.

The comparison game is always going to exist because teachers whine about how hard they have it.

Teachers aren’t whining- they are fed up and want parents to fight for change so they can do their jobs and afford to live in the area they teach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.

FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.

Many salaried jobs are not just 40 hours. On average I work roughly 50 hours a week and my husband works 60 per week. Not a valid argument bc the same thing happens in the private sector.

Here’s the thing. I wasn’t comparing my job to yours. I was addressing the (incorrect) comment about number of days worked and hours per day. Everyone thinks teachers’ hours are their business. I don’t ask my doctor or dentist their hours. I don’t ask the cashier at the store. I don’t ask you. Why? Because I don’t care and it’s not my business. I don’t post about a raise they may get or what days they take off. It’s their job. Not mine. Same applies here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.

FCPS teachers work 195 days. People who work all year with no vacation equals 260 days. Subtract your three weeks of holiday/vacation and you have 245. A difference of 50 days. But here is the thing….

Most teachers put in over 40 hours in a week which adds up to additional work days. So in reality the difference could end up being a lot less. Also many professional jobs get more than 3 weeks vacation. My husband is a fed and has enough vacation time to take off more than 3 weeks a year.

Don’t forget to subtract out two weeks for winter break and one week for spring break for teachers as well, where they don’t have to take vacation days. That’s another 3 weeks right there in FCPS - so a difference on 65 days by your count. I think that’s a lot fwiw.

No. 195 days are Working days. So your math is wrong.

+1. Stay in your lane.

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Anonymous wrote:It is 3% + a step.

$80.9 million to provide a market scale adjustment of 3.0% for all employees.
$58.2 million to provide a step increase for all eligible employees.
$4.3 million to provide a step extension for all scales.

I'm not sure what you want from FCPS. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors needs to raise taxes further if you want big teacher raises.

We do want greater increases for teachers because we believe they deserve them.

What we want from FCPS is to stop spending on contractors and lawyers. The money allocated to social engineering programs and to protect FCPS employees who break the law should be plenty to increase teachers salaries more significantly than proposed. No need to raise our taxes more than they already are. What we need is to redirect expenses by prioritizing what really matters: Our teachers. They are our boots on the ground when it comes to educating our children. Panorama Education, Planned Parenthood, Sidley Austin LLP, and other contractors, are not.

It isn’t, and frankly you are stupid for thinking so.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers do get 2 months off. It is unique.

And winter break and spring break and many holidays. It’s not fair to compare salaries without taking that into account. And most professionals work “after hours” too.

most professionals answer emails after 4pm

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3% isn’t that bad. At least it’s something. What percentage were you hoping for, Op??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is 3% + a step.

$80.9 million to provide a market scale adjustment of 3.0% for all employees.
$58.2 million to provide a step increase for all eligible employees.
$4.3 million to provide a step extension for all scales.

I'm not sure what you want from FCPS. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors needs to raise taxes further if you want big teacher raises.

We do want greater increases for teachers because we believe they deserve them.

What we want from FCPS is to stop spending on contractors and lawyers. The money allocated to social engineering programs and to protect FCPS employees who break the law should be plenty to increase teachers salaries more significantly than proposed. No need to raise our taxes more than they already are. What we need is to redirect expenses by prioritizing what really matters: Our teachers. They are our boots on the ground when it comes to educating our children. Panorama Education, Planned Parenthood, Sidley Austin LLP, and other contractors, are not.

It isn’t, and frankly you are stupid for thinking so.

Bright one, where is the money coming out from to pay these for-profit organizations? Please enlighten us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is 3% + a step.

$80.9 million to provide a market scale adjustment of 3.0% for all employees.
$58.2 million to provide a step increase for all eligible employees.
$4.3 million to provide a step extension for all scales.

I'm not sure what you want from FCPS. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors needs to raise taxes further if you want big teacher raises.

We do want greater increases for teachers because we believe they deserve them.

What we want from FCPS is to stop spending on contractors and lawyers. The money allocated to social engineering programs and to protect FCPS employees who break the law should be plenty to increase teachers salaries more significantly than proposed. No need to raise our taxes more than they already are. What we need is to redirect expenses by prioritizing what really matters: Our teachers. They are our boots on the ground when it comes to educating our children. Panorama Education, Planned Parenthood, Sidley Austin LLP, and other contractors, are not.

It isn’t, and frankly you are stupid for thinking so.

Bright one, where is the money coming out from to pay these for-profit organizations? Please enlighten us.

It comes out of the budget, but it is a drop in the bucket of a $3.5B budget where the vast majority of costs are school-based personnel. You could get rid of those things you don’t like and distribute it to the teachers and they wouldn’t even notice in their paychecks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers do get 2 months off. It is unique.

And winter break and spring break and many holidays. It’s not fair to compare salaries without taking that into account. And most professionals work “after hours” too.

most professionals answer emails after 4pm

Are you claiming teachers don’t?
I don’t get a moment during the school day to answer emails, so they pile up. I respond to ALL emails at home each night. (You do realize I’m teaching all day? That I’m not sitting at my desk on my computer?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.

Time off won’t pay my bills. The jobs I can get in the summer don’t fully pay them either.

So get a different job? I missed the part where you were forced into teaching with no way out.

LOL I'm not the PP just watching you parents dig a grave. Teachers are leaving wake up!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But other professionals put in more than 40 hours a week and are expected to answer emails in the evenings and weekends too!

And typically they are paid better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, people need to stop comparing. The reality is teachers are leaving. Supply is low. Teaching is a high stress job. If you want teachers demands need to decrease and pay needs to increase. There are NO resumes coming in. So unless you are ok with random subs for your kid, parents need to really start understanding the job of a teacher in 2023 and why teachers should be paid way more for what they do.

The comparison game is always going to exist because teachers whine about how hard they have it.

Yes because we have to deal with entitled parents and children like you and yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is 3% + a step.

$80.9 million to provide a market scale adjustment of 3.0% for all employees.
$58.2 million to provide a step increase for all eligible employees.
$4.3 million to provide a step extension for all scales.

I'm not sure what you want from FCPS. The Fairfax Board of Supervisors needs to raise taxes further if you want big teacher raises.

We do want greater increases for teachers because we believe they deserve them.

What we want from FCPS is to stop spending on contractors and lawyers. The money allocated to social engineering programs and to protect FCPS employees who break the law should be plenty to increase teachers salaries more significantly than proposed. No need to raise our taxes more than they already are. What we need is to redirect expenses by prioritizing what really matters: Our teachers. They are our boots on the ground when it comes to educating our children. Panorama Education, Planned Parenthood, Sidley Austin LLP, and other contractors, are not.

Thank you many teachers feel this way -gatehouse does not listen nor care for it's teachers and school support staff. They send out constant surveys but do nothing with the feedback and to be honest most teachers don't even want to give feedback because they don't truly believe it's anonymous and nothing changes when we do. Gatehouse is a huge waste of money-all the "experts" sitting in offices. It's demoralizing. Teachers, admin, IA's are leaving. Parents need to direct their anger and frustration at the Gatehouse issue-but instead it's directed at schools. FCPS IS TOO BIG!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers do get 2 months off. It is unique.

And winter break and spring break and many holidays. It’s not fair to compare salaries without taking that into account. And most professionals work “after hours” too.

most professionals answer emails after 4pm

Are you claiming teachers don’t?
I don’t get a moment during the school day to answer emails, so they pile up. I respond to ALL emails at home each night. (You do realize I’m teaching all day? That I’m not sitting at my desk on my computer?)

+ a million I barely get to eat because most times I have to answer emails then that have already piled by by noon. Such ridiculous tone deaf comments from parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are more undergrads that just graduated in elementary Ed.

LOL keep telling yourself this