Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?

Biden has dedicated more money to border control.
He has authorized more drones and other equipment as requested from DHS.
He has more drug recovery than Trump.
He has more human interdictions than Trump.
He has more deportations than Trump.
He has invested more in Central America to address the root issues of people wanting to emigrate.

So to answer your question, you should be voting Democrat.

Uh, no.

Democrats have all 3 branches of government for the past 2 years…this problem got out of control with Biden in charge. So if so lot understand how having open borders and having millions of people cross over will be better by having Democrats staying in control?

Also throwing more money at the problem like more, judges, agents, surveillance won’t fix the issue if another 2million people cross the border next year. How many 100’s of billions of dollars do yo you want to spend on this? How many more crowded schools do you need that can’t get the kids in? How many more hotels in NY will be filled with migrants? Why is there suddenly billions of dollars available for this when we did not have billions of dollars to help our homeless, veterans, minority communities???????

Is SCOTUS not a branch of govt? I am confused

[Anonymous]

My single issue is attempting a coup. So no republicans sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP-tons of illegal immigrants come legally and overstay their visa. Neither party *really* has come up with any solutions for the border crisis. The well off in both parties look away at the companies that hire undocumented workers because it's all about the $$$. So what solutions do you propose?

Removing birth citizenship and going with citizenship like most sane developed 1st world countries have.

Not allowing undocumented children into schools

E-verify for all labor.

Extraordinarily high fines for people who rent to undocumented immigrants/require.proof of citizenship or legal stay to be able to rent

Require citizenship or legal residence proof for all utilities.

Remove the ability to obtain a driver's license without proof of legal residence or citizenship

Disallow all banking without proof of citizenship or legal residency

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country illegally, people will stop coming. Who is going to come to the US to live illegally if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. "

https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy

I am fiscally conservative and I like these numbers. So if I were single issue, Gee then Dem it is, to quote PP.

OMG!!!!!

The article says Immigrants. It does not say Illegal Immigrants (Migrants). So perhaps Legal immigrants who come here and work contribute much more to the treasury than is taken out. Sure. I’m a legal immigrant and have been working here for past 24 years. But my family was screened, and we entered the USA the right way.


I’ll rust the NY Mayor, Adams, who says they have a crisis and the Illegal Immigrants who are paying ZERO in taxes will cost the city 2 Billion dollars this year to house, feed, and take care of them. That is just the 40k migrants they have in NY! How about the other 1-2 million that have come here since last year?

Exactly. Liberals love to conflate legal and *illegal* immigrants, as if they're the same group. They are not.

I think the real issue is that conservatives ignore the asylum laws, and pretend like asylum seekers are here illegally.

We need more immigration courts to handle the flow of asylees. We also need to change our asylum laws.

The fact is that around 93% of those coming here illegally, then "claiming" asylum do not qualify. They have been given their script by the cartels which is apparently enough for Biden, et al, to release these people into our country likely never to be seen again.

And, when you cross at a place that is not a border crossing, you are entering illegally. #Facts

I appreciate you proving my point.

Familiarize yourself with the asylum laws. Be sure to read about defensive asylum claims for those who cross the border illegally. Congress needs to change the laws and add courts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP-tons of illegal immigrants come legally and overstay their visa. Neither party *really* has come up with any solutions for the border crisis. The well off in both parties look away at the companies that hire undocumented workers because it's all about the $$$. So what solutions do you propose?

Removing birth citizenship and going with citizenship like most sane developed 1st world countries have.

Not allowing undocumented children into schools

E-verify for all labor.

Extraordinarily high fines for people who rent to undocumented immigrants/require.proof of citizenship or legal stay to be able to rent

Require citizenship or legal residence proof for all utilities.

Remove the ability to obtain a driver's license without proof of legal residence or citizenship

Disallow all banking without proof of citizenship or legal residency

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country illegally, people will stop coming. Who is going to come to the US to live illegally if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

I can get behind these. Except not sure about excluding the kids from schools. Do we really want a bunch of unsupervised kids running around, left at home, roaming the streets, whatever. That harms the entire community. Not just the immigrants and their children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a link to the 2 Billion number.


Please read.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2023/01/13/nyc-cost-asylum-seekers-2b-00077885

That article talks about asylum seekers. Not illegal immigrants.

Tomato tomahto

I personally work with Hispanic immigrants in our local community and they are some of the most generous, warm and family focused people I have ever met. I also personally have known and experienced so many totally F’d up American families that I just can’t understand why anyone would want to disparage immigrants like that. It’s just pure ignorance. Get out of your bubble and actually talk to some of these people before you spend so much time whining about them. We could learn from them and strengthen our communities and families but instead you trade insults and innuendo.

Arguments like this are so absurd. No one is criticizing individual illegal immigrants or saying they're not warm and generous. The fact is, however, they are in the country ILLEGALLY - they hopped the line, in front of thousands of others, waiting for YEARS to enter. And somehow, because those you happen to know personally are great people and "family-focused," all is excused in your mind. No matter that plenty of OTHER family-focused, warm, generous people are following the laws and waiting until it's legal to enter. Just admit it: laws don't matter to you.

Actually laws matter a great deal to me. I have watched for decades how Republicans refuse to allow any increases in LEGAL immigration. They fought against DREAMERS and any other proposal to allow for more legal immigration.

If you are sooo concerned about laws and not about immigration itself then there is a very simple way to solve your problem. Call up your Republican representative and demand more pathways towards legal immigration. This simple test is how you know the true motivations of those screeching hysterically about the border.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP-tons of illegal immigrants come legally and overstay their visa. Neither party *really* has come up with any solutions for the border crisis. The well off in both parties look away at the companies that hire undocumented workers because it's all about the $$$. So what solutions do you propose?

Removing birth citizenship and going with citizenship like most sane developed 1st world countries have.

Not allowing undocumented children into schools

E-verify for all labor.

Extraordinarily high fines for people who rent to undocumented immigrants/require.proof of citizenship or legal stay to be able to rent

Require citizenship or legal residence proof for all utilities.

Remove the ability to obtain a driver's license without proof of legal residence or citizenship

Disallow all banking without proof of citizenship or legal residency

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country illegally, people will stop coming. Who is going to come to the US to live illegally if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

I think this is a great idea and we need to expand it to include people who don't pay their taxes. So:

Children cannot go to school unless you provide certificate from IRS certifying you are current on all taxes

Employers cannot hire you until they run your name thru an IRS database of tax cheats

Landlords cannot rent to you until they run your name thru an IRS database of tax cheats (with high fines for landlords that don't)

Utility companies cannot hook up service until they run your name thru an IRS database of tax cheats

No driver's licenses until DMV runs your name thru an IRS database of tax cheats

Banks close accounts of all tax cheats

Huge increase in IRS budget to make sure we catch and have an accurate list of the tax cheats

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country without paying taxes, people will stop cheating on them. Who is going to cheat on their taxes, if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a link to the 2 Billion number.


Please read.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2023/01/13/nyc-cost-asylum-seekers-2b-00077885

That article talks about asylum seekers. Not illegal immigrants.

Tomato tomahto

I personally work with Hispanic immigrants in our local community and they are some of the most generous, warm and family focused people I have ever met. I also personally have known and experienced so many totally F’d up American families that I just can’t understand why anyone would want to disparage immigrants like that. It’s just pure ignorance. Get out of your bubble and actually talk to some of these people before you spend so much time whining about them. We could learn from them and strengthen our communities and families but instead you trade insults and innuendo.

Arguments like this are so absurd. No one is criticizing individual illegal immigrants or saying they're not warm and generous. The fact is, however, they are in the country ILLEGALLY - they hopped the line, in front of thousands of others, waiting for YEARS to enter. And somehow, because those you happen to know personally are great people and "family-focused," all is excused in your mind. No matter that plenty of OTHER family-focused, warm, generous people are following the laws and waiting until it's legal to enter. Just admit it: laws don't matter to you.

Actually laws matter a great deal to me. I have watched for decades how Republicans refuse to allow any increases in LEGAL immigration. They fought against DREAMERS and any other proposal to allow for more legal immigration.

If you are sooo concerned about laws and not about immigration itself then there is a very simple way to solve your problem. Call up your Republican representative and demand more pathways towards legal immigration. This simple test is how you know the true motivations of those screeching hysterically about the border.

If they were so concerned about laws, they would be apoplectic about the Trump Administration raping of our laws and the seditious coup attempt, alas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a link to the 2 Billion number.


Please read.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2023/01/13/nyc-cost-asylum-seekers-2b-00077885

That article talks about asylum seekers. Not illegal immigrants.

Tomato tomahto

I personally work with Hispanic immigrants in our local community and they are some of the most generous, warm and family focused people I have ever met. I also personally have known and experienced so many totally F’d up American families that I just can’t understand why anyone would want to disparage immigrants like that. It’s just pure ignorance. Get out of your bubble and actually talk to some of these people before you spend so much time whining about them. We could learn from them and strengthen our communities and families but instead you trade insults and innuendo.

Arguments like this are so absurd. No one is criticizing individual illegal immigrants or saying they're not warm and generous. The fact is, however, they are in the country ILLEGALLY - they hopped the line, in front of thousands of others, waiting for YEARS to enter. And somehow, because those you happen to know personally are great people and "family-focused," all is excused in your mind. No matter that plenty of OTHER family-focused, warm, generous people are following the laws and waiting until it's legal to enter. Just admit it: laws don't matter to you.

Actually laws matter a great deal to me. I have watched for decades how Republicans refuse to allow any increases in LEGAL immigration. They fought against DREAMERS and any other proposal to allow for more legal immigration.

If you are sooo concerned about laws and not about immigration itself then there is a very simple way to solve your problem. Call up your Republican representative and demand more pathways towards legal immigration. This simple test is how you know the true motivations of those screeching hysterically about the border.

I completely agree with this. I don't like illegal immigration either. But the only way to get the problem to a manageable level where the border patrol and ICE can do their jobs is to provide an actual pathway for poor and unskilled people from Latin America and other underdeveloped countries to immigrate here. The current system lets a hot model from Slovakia immigrate easily, but a poor lady from Guatemala has no legal pathway so of course she takes the illegal or legally questionable (asylum) path because that's what's available. The republicans have refused to come to the table to reform the system, insisting on "securing the border first," which they know perfectly well is not possible (particularly the way they define it).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?

Biden has dedicated more money to border control.
He has authorized more drones and other equipment as requested from DHS.
He has more drug recovery than Trump.
He has more human interdictions than Trump.
He has more deportations than Trump.
He has invested more in Central America to address the root issues of people wanting to emigrate.

So to answer your question, you should be voting Democrat.

Uh, no.

Democrats have all 3 branches of government for the past 2 years…this problem got out of control with Biden in charge. So if so lot understand how having open borders and having millions of people cross over will be better by having Democrats staying in control?

Also throwing more money at the problem like more, judges, agents, surveillance won’t fix the issue if another 2million people cross the border next year. How many 100’s of billions of dollars do yo you want to spend on this? How many more crowded schools do you need that can’t get the kids in? How many more hotels in NY will be filled with migrants? Why is there suddenly billions of dollars available for this when we did not have billions of dollars to help our homeless, veterans, minority communities???????

Are you forgetting the Caravans during the Trump years? How short our memory is.

And...the Dems have offered an immigration reform bill that covers a lot of issues, but guess who votes against it? The GOP. Why? Because they want to keep people like you angry, rather than, you know, dealing with the problem.

Also, you say "uh, no" but the facts matter, the current Administration has recovered more drugs, indicted more people, deported more illegal people, etc than the Trump Administration did. Maybe research it a little before commenting next time.

Unfortunately your statistics degree sucks.

Let’s go with the drug issue…

So let’s say Trump was able to capture 20 percent of the drugs crossing the border and Biden was able to capture the same percentage.
Then let’s say under Trump, the illegals crossing the border in year 2000 were 500k and year 2022 were 1 million people.
The. You are capturing more drugs BECAUSE yo I have double the people crossing the border illegally!

The increased investment in South and Central America is not helping as number of crossing are doubled.

There are more interaction because you have double the people crossing illegally.

So quoting that you are collecting more drugs, deporting more people, etc. is not a good thing… it means you have MORE people coming here illegally hence the Increased numbers.

Yes, let's go with the drug issue

https://www.thedailybeast.com/charlottesville-tiki-torcher-teddy-joseph-von-nukem-killed-himself-before-trial

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?

Female reproductive rights likely to be the only other major issue motivating single issue voters. It affects half the population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP-tons of illegal immigrants come legally and overstay their visa. Neither party *really* has come up with any solutions for the border crisis. The well off in both parties look away at the companies that hire undocumented workers because it's all about the $$$. So what solutions do you propose?

Removing birth citizenship and going with citizenship like most sane developed 1st world countries have.

Not allowing undocumented children into schools

E-verify for all labor.

Extraordinarily high fines for people who rent to undocumented immigrants/require.proof of citizenship or legal stay to be able to rent

Require citizenship or legal residence proof for all utilities.

Remove the ability to obtain a driver's license without proof of legal residence or citizenship

Disallow all banking without proof of citizenship or legal residency

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country illegally, people will stop coming. Who is going to come to the US to live illegally if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

Ah yes just put “repealing the 14th Amendment” on a list of things to do like it’s picking up the dry cleaning. Sure sign of someone who’s serious about solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP-tons of illegal immigrants come legally and overstay their visa. Neither party *really* has come up with any solutions for the border crisis. The well off in both parties look away at the companies that hire undocumented workers because it's all about the $$$. So what solutions do you propose?

Removing birth citizenship and going with citizenship like most sane developed 1st world countries have.

Not allowing undocumented children into schools

E-verify for all labor.

Extraordinarily high fines for people who rent to undocumented immigrants/require.proof of citizenship or legal stay to be able to rent

Require citizenship or legal residence proof for all utilities.

Remove the ability to obtain a driver's license without proof of legal residence or citizenship

Disallow all banking without proof of citizenship or legal residency

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country illegally, people will stop coming. Who is going to come to the US to live illegally if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

I can get behind these. Except not sure about excluding the kids from schools. Do we really want a bunch of unsupervised kids running around, left at home, roaming the streets, whatever. That harms the entire community. Not just the immigrants and their children.

I'm a moderate Democrat and could get behind these too. I do think you need to add extraordinarily high fines to those that hire illegal immigrants. Of course, as you know, farmers, slaughterhouses, and all manner of hospitality and restaurant services employ significant number of illegal immigrants. The Chamber of Commerce would absolutely howl in protest if that happened. Focus on the demand side of things rather than supply. I hate to use the analogy but it's like going after the drug dealers rather than the users.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP-tons of illegal immigrants come legally and overstay their visa. Neither party *really* has come up with any solutions for the border crisis. The well off in both parties look away at the companies that hire undocumented workers because it's all about the $$$. So what solutions do you propose?

Removing birth citizenship and going with citizenship like most sane developed 1st world countries have.

Not allowing undocumented children into schools

E-verify for all labor.

Extraordinarily high fines for people who rent to undocumented immigrants/require.proof of citizenship or legal stay to be able to rent

Require citizenship or legal residence proof for all utilities.

Remove the ability to obtain a driver's license without proof of legal residence or citizenship

Disallow all banking without proof of citizenship or legal residency

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country illegally, people will stop coming. Who is going to come to the US to live illegally if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

Can you prove that your ancestors entered this country legally? Oh, by the bye, you are truly despicable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP-tons of illegal immigrants come legally and overstay their visa. Neither party *really* has come up with any solutions for the border crisis. The well off in both parties look away at the companies that hire undocumented workers because it's all about the $$$. So what solutions do you propose?

Removing birth citizenship and going with citizenship like most sane developed 1st world countries have.

Not allowing undocumented children into schools

E-verify for all labor.

Extraordinarily high fines for people who rent to undocumented immigrants/require.proof of citizenship or legal stay to be able to rent

Require citizenship or legal residence proof for all utilities.

Remove the ability to obtain a driver's license without proof of legal residence or citizenship

Disallow all banking without proof of citizenship or legal residency

It's simple really. When you make it difficult to live in the country illegally, people will stop coming. Who is going to come to the US to live illegally if you can't drive, can't live anywhere, can't turn on the lights, cannot use banking when society keeps moving to cashless transactions, and you cannot send your kids to schools?

Make life impossible.

Can you prove that your ancestors entered this country legally? Oh, by the bye, you are truly despicable.

Yes. There were no legal restrictions on immigration when my ancestors arrived.