Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?


Biden has dedicated more money to border control.
He has authorized more drones and other equipment as requested from DHS.
He has more drug recovery than Trump.
He has more human interdictions than Trump.
He has more deportations than Trump.
He has invested more in Central America to address the root issues of people wanting to emigrate.

So to answer your question, you should be voting Democrat.


More drug recovery means much more drugs are getting in illegally that they haven't caught. Link to that? Because on the face of it, it means they are doing abetter job at the border

More human interdictions means many more people sneaking in over the borders who haven't been caught. Proof of this? On the face it means more people are being interdicted.

People are coming in from all over--many more not from central America than are from there.you sound hyperbolic and hysterical, please show your work
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:"Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. "

https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy

I am fiscally conservative and I like these numbers. So if I were single issue, Gee then Dem it is, to quote PP.


OMG!!!!!

The article says Immigrants. It does not say Illegal Immigrants (Migrants). So perhaps Legal immigrants who come here and work contribute much more to the treasury than is taken out. Sure. I’m a legal immigrant and have been working here for past 24 years. But my family was screened, and we entered the USA the right way.


I’ll rust the NY Mayor, Adams, who says they have a crisis and the Illegal Immigrants who are paying ZERO in taxes will cost the city 2 Billion dollars this year to house, feed, and take care of them. That is just the 40k migrants they have in NY! How about the other 1-2 million that have come here since last year?


Uh, illegal immigrants pay sales and other taxes but are otherwise not in the system, so whatever they pay in, they get zero out.




Yeah, not really. So they pay some sales tax. Most of the illegals in NY for example are fully subsidized. Free place to stay, free health care, free food, even free metro passes!! So when Adams says these migrants are costing city 2 Billion this year alone, no way that the the “sales tax” that they are paying is even covering 1/1000 of the cost they are causing the city!


You clearly know nothing about illegal immigrants, the ones who know they are here illegally, work under the table and stay out of the system, hence no access to free transportation, housing or food. Are you sure you are not talking about legal immigrants? Because illegal immigrants really are not in our safety net programs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. "

https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy

I am fiscally conservative and I like these numbers. So if I were single issue, Gee then Dem it is, to quote PP.


OMG!!!!!

The article says Immigrants. It does not say Illegal Immigrants (Migrants). So perhaps Legal immigrants who come here and work contribute much more to the treasury than is taken out. Sure. I’m a legal immigrant and have been working here for past 24 years. But my family was screened, and we entered the USA the right way.


I’ll rust the NY Mayor, Adams, who says they have a crisis and the Illegal Immigrants who are paying ZERO in taxes will cost the city 2 Billion dollars this year to house, feed, and take care of them. That is just the 40k migrants they have in NY! How about the other 1-2 million that have come here since last year?


Uh, illegal immigrants pay sales and other taxes but are otherwise not in the system, so whatever they pay in, they get zero out.




Yeah, not really. So they pay some sales tax. Most of the illegals in NY for example are fully subsidized. Free place to stay, free health care, free food, even free metro passes!! So when Adams says these migrants are costing city 2 Billion this year alone, no way that the the “sales tax” that they are paying is even covering 1/1000 of the cost they are causing the city!


You clearly know nothing about illegal immigrants, the ones who know they are here illegally, work under the table and stay out of the system, hence no access to free transportation, housing or food. Are you sure you are not talking about legal immigrants? Because illegal immigrants really are not in our safety net programs.



Again, simple example.

40k Illegals (Migrants, Asylum Seekers) in NYC now. And YES, YES, YES are in the “safety” net getting again, free hotel rooms, free food, free metro passes, free healthcare. Mayor Adams has asked Biden for 2 Billion dollars just for these 40k people. So if you scale up the numbers to 1 million plus, how many Billions more is that.

At least NYC is giving us a cost analysis of money needed for the 40k people they are housing now!
Anonymous
And the reason I keep using NYC is the Mayor was actually able to put a price tag on what it is costing his city….while everyone else is vague about costs per illegal immigrant…..
Anonymous
Here’s a link to the 2 Billion number.


Please read.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2023/01/13/...-seekers-2b-00077885
Anonymous
My single issue: If you even have the slightest scent of being a Republican, no chance I am voting for you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My single issue: If you even have the slightest scent of being a Republican, no chance I am voting for you.


I won’t vote for anyone associated with the Democratic Party. So there.

Anonymous
No, because I live in the real world where there are many serious issues that need to be addressed and as I've learned, just because some blowhard says he's going to build a wall, doesn't mean it will happen, or make a difference.

But if I was going to pick one issue? Gun control. More specifically banning assault weapons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?


Biden has dedicated more money to border control.
He has authorized more drones and other equipment as requested from DHS.
He has more drug recovery than Trump.
He has more human interdictions than Trump.
He has more deportations than Trump.
He has invested more in Central America to address the root issues of people wanting to emigrate.

So to answer your question, you should be voting Democrat.


No.
1. He has not spent more money on "border control." He has spent more money on processing and transporting migrants. Big difference.
2. Drones and electronic surveillance was in place well before Biden took office. He, in fact, is eliminating the blimps that surveil our border even though the "replacement technology" is not ready.
3. He has more drug recovery because there is a record amount of drugs coming over the border. More drugs = more to find. There is still a $hitload coming in.
4. He has more human interdiction because there are a record number of people coming to interdict.
5. He has more deportations than Trump because, once again, there are a record number of people coming. He is letting more people INTO our country than he is deporting.
6. More money to Central America has not and will not solve this problem. We have people coming from over 140 countries.

You know what else he has "more of?"

Got-aways. Well over a million since he took office. People we know nothing about and have no idea what their motives or intentions are.
People on the terror watch list. Since his inauguration, over 133 people on the terror watch list have crossed. Compare that to a TOTAL of 11 under Trump.

Anybody who even attempts to rationalize Biden's record regarding the southern border is just ignorant. Totally ignorant.

And, OP - I am with you. Border control has been my #1 issue for some time now. It is having a huge impact on every state and every city in our country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?


Biden has dedicated more money to border control.
He has authorized more drones and other equipment as requested from DHS.
He has more drug recovery than Trump.
He has more human interdictions than Trump.
He has more deportations than Trump.
He has invested more in Central America to address the root issues of people wanting to emigrate.

So to answer your question, you should be voting Democrat.


Uh, no.

Democrats have all 3 branches of government for the past 2 years…this problem got out of control with Biden in charge. So if so lot understand how having open borders and having millions of people cross over will be better by having Democrats staying in control?

Also throwing more money at the problem like more, judges, agents, surveillance won’t fix the issue if another 2million people cross the border next year. How many 100’s of billions of dollars do yo you want to spend on this? How many more crowded schools do you need that can’t get the kids in? How many more hotels in NY will be filled with migrants? Why is there suddenly billions of dollars available for this when we did not have billions of dollars to help our homeless, veterans, minority communities???????


Are you forgetting the Caravans during the Trump years? How short our memory is.

And...the Dems have offered an immigration reform bill that covers a lot of issues, but guess who votes against it? The GOP. Why? Because they want to keep people like you angry, rather than, you know, dealing with the problem.

Also, you say "uh, no" but the facts matter, the current Administration has recovered more drugs, indicted more people, deported more illegal people, etc than the Trump Administration did. Maybe research it a little before commenting next time.



Unfortunately your statistics degree sucks.

Let’s go with the drug issue…

So let’s say Trump was able to capture 20 percent of the drugs crossing the border and Biden was able to capture the same percentage.
Then let’s say under Trump, the illegals crossing the border in year 2000 were 500k and year 2022 were 1 million people.
The. You are capturing more drugs BECAUSE yo I have double the people crossing the border illegally!

The increased investment in South and Central America is not helping as number of crossing are doubled.

There are more interaction because you have double the people crossing illegally.

So quoting that you are collecting more drugs, deporting more people, etc. is not a good thing… it means you have MORE people coming here illegally hence the Increased numbers.


You’re making a lot of assumptions to paint the hateful GOP in a good light and doing the most to ignore the fact that the GOP won’t actually address immigration. Why? Because you’re a rube and you’ll vote for them for hating brown people even as their donors make all their money from the work of undocumented brown people.

Oh and I’m a single issue voter. I vote for sanity. I vote for the party that trusts women rather than wanting to make torture porn about them dying in childbirth, I vote for the party that believes in global warming and wants to do something about it. I vote for the party that funds strong public schools. Only a crazy person votes for the GOP on any issue at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?


Biden has dedicated more money to border control.
He has authorized more drones and other equipment as requested from DHS.
He has more drug recovery than Trump.
He has more human interdictions than Trump.
He has more deportations than Trump.
He has invested more in Central America to address the root issues of people wanting to emigrate.

So to answer your question, you should be voting Democrat.


Uh, no.

Democrats have all 3 branches of government for the past 2 years…this problem got out of control with Biden in charge. So if so lot understand how having open borders and having millions of people cross over will be better by having Democrats staying in control?

Also throwing more money at the problem like more, judges, agents, surveillance won’t fix the issue if another 2million people cross the border next year. How many 100’s of billions of dollars do yo you want to spend on this? How many more crowded schools do you need that can’t get the kids in? How many more hotels in NY will be filled with migrants? Why is there suddenly billions of dollars available for this when we did not have billions of dollars to help our homeless, veterans, minority communities???????


Are you forgetting the Caravans during the Trump years? How short our memory is.

And...the Dems have offered an immigration reform bill that covers a lot of issues, but guess who votes against it? The GOP. Why? Because they want to keep people like you angry, rather than, you know, dealing with the problem.

Also, you say "uh, no" but the facts matter, the current Administration has recovered more drugs, indicted more people, deported more illegal people, etc than the Trump Administration did. Maybe research it a little before commenting next time.



Unfortunately your statistics degree sucks.

Let’s go with the drug issue…

So let’s say Trump was able to capture 20 percent of the drugs crossing the border and Biden was able to capture the same percentage.
Then let’s say under Trump, the illegals crossing the border in year 2000 were 500k and year 2022 were 1 million people.
The. You are capturing more drugs BECAUSE yo I have double the people crossing the border illegally!

The increased investment in South and Central America is not helping as number of crossing are doubled.

There are more interaction because you have double the people crossing illegally.

So quoting that you are collecting more drugs, deporting more people, etc. is not a good thing… it means you have MORE people coming here illegally hence the Increased numbers.


You’re making a lot of assumptions to paint the hateful GOP in a good light and doing the most to ignore the fact that the GOP won’t actually address immigration. Why? Because you’re a rube and you’ll vote for them for hating brown people even as their donors make all their money from the work of undocumented brown people.

Oh and I’m a single issue voter. I vote for sanity. I vote for the party that trusts women rather than wanting to make torture porn about them dying in childbirth, I vote for the party that believes in global warming and wants to do something about it. I vote for the party that funds strong public schools. Only a crazy person votes for the GOP on any issue at all.


DP.
I vote for sanity as well. And, right now, the Dems are bat$hit crazy. Abortion up until birth? No thanks. Global warming? That has become a religion to the left. Strong public schools? I am all for that, but we have been throwing money at them with very poor results. I am for school choice. And, I am a former public school teacher.

And, as for your racist comment about "brown people" coming across the border...... We have seen people from over 140 countries coming in. They are not all brown. In fact, there has been a big surge in Chinese nationals coming in illegally. And, Russia. And, other "non-brown" countries. So, stop with the racist accusations.
Anonymous
My single issue is not being batshit crazy, and nearly every republican fails that one right now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses. "

https://www.aclu.org/other/immigrants-and-economy

I am fiscally conservative and I like these numbers. So if I were single issue, Gee then Dem it is, to quote PP.


OMG!!!!!

The article says Immigrants. It does not say Illegal Immigrants (Migrants). So perhaps Legal immigrants who come here and work contribute much more to the treasury than is taken out. Sure. I’m a legal immigrant and have been working here for past 24 years. But my family was screened, and we entered the USA the right way.


I’ll rust the NY Mayor, Adams, who says they have a crisis and the Illegal Immigrants who are paying ZERO in taxes will cost the city 2 Billion dollars this year to house, feed, and take care of them. That is just the 40k migrants they have in NY! How about the other 1-2 million that have come here since last year?


Illegal immigrants are typically working using falsified papers, meaning they are having state and federal income taxes withheld, along with FICA and a bunch of other things - none of which they are eligible to collect.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regardless of my party affiliation/registration, I will vote based on one issue--strict control of our borders.

Other than right to life/abortion issue is anyone else approaching the next presidential election as a single issue voter ?

If other than right to life/abortion, what is that issue ?


Biden has dedicated more money to border control.
He has authorized more drones and other equipment as requested from DHS.
He has more drug recovery than Trump.
He has more human interdictions than Trump.
He has more deportations than Trump.
He has invested more in Central America to address the root issues of people wanting to emigrate.

So to answer your question, you should be voting Democrat.


Uh, no.

Democrats have all 3 branches of government for the past 2 years…this problem got out of control with Biden in charge. So if so lot understand how having open borders and having millions of people cross over will be better by having Democrats staying in control?

Also throwing more money at the problem like more, judges, agents, surveillance won’t fix the issue if another 2million people cross the border next year. How many 100’s of billions of dollars do yo you want to spend on this? How many more crowded schools do you need that can’t get the kids in? How many more hotels in NY will be filled with migrants? Why is there suddenly billions of dollars available for this when we did not have billions of dollars to help our homeless, veterans, minority communities???????


Are you forgetting the Caravans during the Trump years? How short our memory is.

And...the Dems have offered an immigration reform bill that covers a lot of issues, but guess who votes against it? The GOP. Why? Because they want to keep people like you angry, rather than, you know, dealing with the problem.

Also, you say "uh, no" but the facts matter, the current Administration has recovered more drugs, indicted more people, deported more illegal people, etc than the Trump Administration did. Maybe research it a little before commenting next time.



Unfortunately your statistics degree sucks.

Let’s go with the drug issue…

So let’s say Trump was able to capture 20 percent of the drugs crossing the border and Biden was able to capture the same percentage.
Then let’s say under Trump, the illegals crossing the border in year 2000 were 500k and year 2022 were 1 million people.
The. You are capturing more drugs BECAUSE yo I have double the people crossing the border illegally!

The increased investment in South and Central America is not helping as number of crossing are doubled.

There are more interaction because you have double the people crossing illegally.

So quoting that you are collecting more drugs, deporting more people, etc. is not a good thing… it means you have MORE people coming here illegally hence the Increased numbers.


You’re making a lot of assumptions to paint the hateful GOP in a good light and doing the most to ignore the fact that the GOP won’t actually address immigration. Why? Because you’re a rube and you’ll vote for them for hating brown people even as their donors make all their money from the work of undocumented brown people.

Oh and I’m a single issue voter. I vote for sanity. I vote for the party that trusts women rather than wanting to make torture porn about them dying in childbirth, I vote for the party that believes in global warming and wants to do something about it. I vote for the party that funds strong public schools. Only a crazy person votes for the GOP on any issue at all.


DP.
I vote for sanity as well. And, right now, the Dems are bat$hit crazy. Abortion up until birth? No thanks. Global warming? That has become a religion to the left. Strong public schools? I am all for that, but we have been throwing money at them with very poor results. I am for school choice. And, I am a former public school teacher.

And, as for your racist comment about "brown people" coming across the border...... We have seen people from over 140 countries coming in. They are not all brown. In fact, there has been a big surge in Chinese nationals coming in illegally. And, Russia. And, other "non-brown" countries. So, stop with the racist accusations.

Lol. I bet you brag about having common sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here’s a link to the 2 Billion number.


Please read.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2023/01/13/...-seekers-2b-00077885

That article talks about asylum seekers. Not illegal immigrants.
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