Ukraine can win; but they have to be absolute bad guy

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Anonymous wrote:I think at the first sign that Russia will use a nuclear weapon the West will abandon Ukraine. It is one thing to waste Ukrainian lives and line the pockets of military industrial complex CEOs, and a whole other thing to destroy Europe in totality.

Meh, if Russia seriously begins to try, the Russian military will take Putin out. It just won't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:There is an easy win-win here, and that is let the Russian populated parts go to Russia. Then they can have a clean break from Russia and go their own way. They will never be able to effectively govern these parts anyway.

Russia had those parts and still invaded the entire country anyway.

Russia did not invade the entire country. Russia never meant to invade all of Ukraine. Russian generals are not idiots who think you can invade all of Ukraine with 180K soldiers.

But apparently they ARE idiots because they are getting their @sses kicked by some random satellite country.

LOL yes let's pretend a random satellite country isn't getting billions of dollars in cash and weapons nonstop. And with all that, the war is heading for a stalemate.

The Ukrainians stopped the Russians from taking Kyiv long before major western aid was supplied.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the point that Ukraine has to take some Russian land; then “lose” it back is a valid way to give Russia a win and way out of the war.

Russians are literally savages when it comes to warfare. You think they lost 20-27 million people in world war 2 by saving their own peoples lives as a top priority? They got that many people killed because they simply don’t give a damn about any life.
The only thing that matters is some warped national pride of winning. Winning at any cost; sports they cheat; warfare they are basic barbarians.

LOL right because Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and god knows what else were such a shows of gentility and good manners.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

Not only is Zelenskyy Jewish, and the grandson of Holocaust survivors, several of his cabinet members and senior advisors are also Jewish, for example Defense Minister Reznikov, Chief of Staff Yermak, as are several Governors and Mayors. A lot has changed in the last 8 years, including a popular rejection of a lot of the prior corrupt political movements and parties.

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Anonymous wrote:There is an easy win-win here, and that is let the Russian populated parts go to Russia. Then they can have a clean break from Russia and go their own way. They will never be able to effectively govern these parts anyway.

Russia had those parts and still invaded the entire country anyway.

Russia did not invade the entire country. Russia never meant to invade all of Ukraine. Russian generals are not idiots who think you can invade all of Ukraine with 180K soldiers.

But apparently they ARE idiots because they are getting their @sses kicked by some random satellite country.

LOL yes let's pretend a random satellite country isn't getting billions of dollars in cash and weapons nonstop. And with all that, the war is heading for a stalemate.

The Ukrainians stopped the Russians from taking Kyiv long before major western aid was supplied.

And where do you think the war would be today if the West sent nothing but thoughts and prayers?

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

Not only is Zelenskyy Jewish, and the grandson of Holocaust survivors, several of his cabinet members and senior advisors are also Jewish, for example Defense Minister Reznikov, Chief of Staff Yermak, as are several Governors and Mayors. A lot has changed in the last 8 years, including a popular rejection of a lot of the prior corrupt political movements and parties.

Again, is it your contention that a Jewish president and the neo-Nazi elements cannot coexist?

You are quite wrong about the corruption, which remains the way of life in Ukraine, called the most corrupt country in Europe right before the war.

In fact, isn't the current purge of Ukrainian leadership explained by anti-corruption? that you say does not exist? Was rejected or something?

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

Not only is Zelenskyy Jewish, and the grandson of Holocaust survivors, several of his cabinet members and senior advisors are also Jewish, for example Defense Minister Reznikov, Chief of Staff Yermak, as are several Governors and Mayors. A lot has changed in the last 8 years, including a popular rejection of a lot of the prior corrupt political movements and parties.

It is just so charming that Yermak never spoke of his so-called Jewish roots until it was time to go to Israel hat in hand. Then, it was like, Je suis Charlie!

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

So it is your contention, is it not, that with Zelensky's ascent to power all neo-Nazi elements (that the Western commentators freely acknowledged in 2014) have vanished?

Or is it your contention that neo-Nazi elements simply cannot coexist with a Jewish president?

It’s my contention that there are neo-Nazi elements everywhere unfortunately including in the US and Russia where they might go by a different name.

It’s also my contention that Ukraine 20th century history is filled with bloodshed, death, and destruction, brought about primarily by anti-democratic authoritarian thugs who ran either Russia/USSR or Germany. The Jews of Ukraine Galicia/Lithuania/Latvia/Poland/Russia, etc were especially hit hard by non-Jews from all sorts of ethnic groups some of whose descendants are still filled with raging anti-Semitism. Yes also in Russia. Why do you think so many Russian and Soviet Jews left in the 1970’s, 1980’s and 1900’s?

Bloodlands is an illuminating, heartbreaking book. I suggest you read it.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

So it is your contention, is it not, that with Zelensky's ascent to power all neo-Nazi elements (that the Western commentators freely acknowledged in 2014) have vanished?

Or is it your contention that neo-Nazi elements simply cannot coexist with a Jewish president?

It’s my contention that there are neo-Nazi elements everywhere unfortunately including in the US and Russia where they might go by a different name.

It’s also my contention that Ukraine 20th century history is filled with bloodshed, death, and destruction, brought about primarily by anti-democratic authoritarian thugs who ran either Russia/USSR or Germany. The Jews of Ukraine Galicia/Lithuania/Latvia/Poland/Russia, etc were especially hit hard by non-Jews from all sorts of ethnic groups some of whose descendants are still filled with raging anti-Semitism. Yes also in Russia. Why do you think so many Russian and Soviet Jews left in the 1970’s, 1980’s and 1900’s?

Bloodlands is an illuminating, heartbreaking book. I suggest you read it.

Snyder is a propagandist.

Everyone able to leave Russia in the 1970s and 1980s has left, not just the Jews. It's just that the Jews could use the door nobody else could.

It is quite charming you mention the Jews of Ukraine and the Baltics "hit especially hard" by non-Jews, really, what you mean is "locals". Has Ukraine ever addressed the history of its extensive collaboration with the Nazis? Have the Baltics? Especially the Baltics? The only countries in Europe where SS veterans still march in celebration parades? The Baltics that suppress and censor local authors who want to acknowledge what happened? The Baltics that squashed the memorial exhibit of the Salaspils concentration camp FOR CHILDREN in the UN on the pretense that it paints the country in a bad light? Damn right it does but does that mean it shouldn't be acknowledged? So, don't talk about the thugs who ran the USSR, the antisemitism in Ukraine and the Baltics is very very native.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

Not only is Zelenskyy Jewish, and the grandson of Holocaust survivors, several of his cabinet members and senior advisors are also Jewish, for example Defense Minister Reznikov, Chief of Staff Yermak, as are several Governors and Mayors. A lot has changed in the last 8 years, including a popular rejection of a lot of the prior corrupt political movements and parties.

Again, is it your contention that a Jewish president and the neo-Nazi elements cannot coexist?

You are quite wrong about the corruption, which remains the way of life in Ukraine, called the most corrupt country in Europe right before the war.

In fact, isn't the current purge of Ukrainian leadership explained by anti-corruption? that you say does not exist? Was rejected or something?

Yup.

And Zelensky himself is deeply corrupt, we know that since the Pandora Papers came to light.

He's a mini-Putin except much better with the media.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

So it is your contention, is it not, that with Zelensky's ascent to power all neo-Nazi elements (that the Western commentators freely acknowledged in 2014) have vanished?

Or is it your contention that neo-Nazi elements simply cannot coexist with a Jewish president?

It’s my contention that there are neo-Nazi elements everywhere unfortunately including in the US and Russia where they might go by a different name.

It’s also my contention that Ukraine 20th century history is filled with bloodshed, death, and destruction, brought about primarily by anti-democratic authoritarian thugs who ran either Russia/USSR or Germany. The Jews of Ukraine Galicia/Lithuania/Latvia/Poland/Russia, etc were especially hit hard by non-Jews from all sorts of ethnic groups some of whose descendants are still filled with raging anti-Semitism. Yes also in Russia. Why do you think so many Russian and Soviet Jews left in the 1970’s, 1980’s and 1900’s?

Bloodlands is an illuminating, heartbreaking book. I suggest you read it.

Snyder is a propagandist.

Everyone able to leave Russia in the 1970s and 1980s has left, not just the Jews. It's just that the Jews could use the door nobody else could.

It is quite charming you mention the Jews of Ukraine and the Baltics "hit especially hard" by non-Jews, really, what you mean is "locals". Has Ukraine ever addressed the history of its extensive collaboration with the Nazis? Have the Baltics? Especially the Baltics? The only countries in Europe where SS veterans still march in celebration parades? The Baltics that suppress and censor local authors who want to acknowledge what happened? The Baltics that squashed the memorial exhibit of the Salaspils concentration camp FOR CHILDREN in the UN on the pretense that it paints the country in a bad light? Damn right it does but does that mean it shouldn't be acknowledged? So, don't talk about the thugs who ran the USSR, the antisemitism in Ukraine and the Baltics is very very native.

Your problem is a willful blindness to the murderous actions of Soviets.

And GTFO trying to claim Soviet rulers were set apart from the anti-semites in the rest of Eastern Europe.

All that bloody history should be reckoned with. Yes, “locals” in Eastern Europe AND Russia participated in the persecution of Jews, with the approval and support of their leaders. For centuries. That is a fact.

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Has Russia ever addressed its history of anti-semitism, the Gulags, the Holodomor?

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Anonymous wrote:Has Russia ever addressed its history of anti-semitism, the Gulags, the Holodomor?

Beautiful sleight of hand - you call them Russians when you want to, and Soviets when you want to. Blame Georgia for Stalin, why don’t you LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is getting the $$$$ - at the top- and American tax payer play da fool.

I don't like the US getting entangled in foreign wars. But time and time again we have sent our money to overseas locations - Iraq ring a bell? - because reasons. We feel we have strategic reasons for wanting to (fill in the blank). I think Putin wants to re establish the former USSR and apparently, our analysts don't think that would be a good idea. I hate that it costs us money but don't you think it's probably a good idea for us to NOT give Putin whatever he wants on a silver platter? What would you just shrug as he invades a sovereign country? What if he turns on another one next? He's killing innocent civilians, you think we should just shrug?

Without costing a US military life, the US and the world has managed to bring the Russians to their knees. Why is this bad? Don't we want to stop the bullies?

Thank you for confirming you only count the American dead, everyone else is just noise.

??? Russia is one who can stop all of this killing.

If Russia stopped fighting, the Ukraine would go right back to shelling civilians in the Donbas, like they did from 14-22.

You mean after Russia sent in it's little green men and declared the region independent?

You mean after the lawful government was overthrown in a coup? People are just supposed to be ok with that and not object?

Wrong. You realize you are repeating Kremlin propaganda and perpetuating a lie, right?

Propaganda in this war is going both ways, and censorship around Ukraine in MSM is strong. In fact, there are things you are simply no longer allowed to say about Ukraine that you were allowed to, as recently as in 2014.

For instance, these Guardian articles would have never been allowed to run today:

Well for one thing the current leader of Ukraine’s “regime” is Jewish. Not a neo-nazi.

So it is your contention, is it not, that with Zelensky's ascent to power all neo-Nazi elements (that the Western commentators freely acknowledged in 2014) have vanished?

Or is it your contention that neo-Nazi elements simply cannot coexist with a Jewish president?

It’s my contention that there are neo-Nazi elements everywhere unfortunately including in the US and Russia where they might go by a different name.

It’s also my contention that Ukraine 20th century history is filled with bloodshed, death, and destruction, brought about primarily by anti-democratic authoritarian thugs who ran either Russia/USSR or Germany. The Jews of Ukraine Galicia/Lithuania/Latvia/Poland/Russia, etc were especially hit hard by non-Jews from all sorts of ethnic groups some of whose descendants are still filled with raging anti-Semitism. Yes also in Russia. Why do you think so many Russian and Soviet Jews left in the 1970’s, 1980’s and 1900’s?

Bloodlands is an illuminating, heartbreaking book. I suggest you read it.

Snyder is a propagandist.

Everyone able to leave Russia in the 1970s and 1980s has left, not just the Jews. It's just that the Jews could use the door nobody else could.

It is quite charming you mention the Jews of Ukraine and the Baltics "hit especially hard" by non-Jews, really, what you mean is "locals". Has Ukraine ever addressed the history of its extensive collaboration with the Nazis? Have the Baltics? Especially the Baltics? The only countries in Europe where SS veterans still march in celebration parades? The Baltics that suppress and censor local authors who want to acknowledge what happened? The Baltics that squashed the memorial exhibit of the Salaspils concentration camp FOR CHILDREN in the UN on the pretense that it paints the country in a bad light? Damn right it does but does that mean it shouldn't be acknowledged? So, don't talk about the thugs who ran the USSR, the antisemitism in Ukraine and the Baltics is very very native.

Ukrainians fought the Soviets with Germans because the Soviets had starved them to death on the previous decade.

This whole anti semitism thing is partly pearl clutching.

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Anonymous wrote:Has Russia ever addressed its history of anti-semitism, the Gulags, the Holodomor?

Beautiful sleight of hand - you call them Russians when you want to, and Soviets when you want to. Blame Georgia for Stalin, why don’t you LOL.

How about Russian Soviets? Or Soviet Russians, does that work? At any rate where are the monuments and apologies for the Gulag, pogroms, and Holodomor?