Ukraine can win; but they have to be absolute bad guy

[Anonymous]

European people/ not politicians/ see once again they are paying the praise for Russo-Americans games that have nothing to do with us.

I don’t care about the Donbas- they are Russian speakers anyway, let Putin have them, no NATO for Ukraine, and stop the death and economic pain.

I feel like I am back in the could war and I don’t like it.

And let me also tell you the people hate it- not the leaders who pay lip service to the us and Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:European people/ not politicians/ see once again they are paying the praise for Russo-Americans games that have nothing to do with us.

I don’t care about the Donbas- they are Russian speakers anyway, let Putin have them, no NATO for Ukraine, and stop the death and economic pain.

I feel like I am back in the could war and I don’t like it.

And let me also tell you the people hate it- not the leaders who pay lip service to the us and Ukraine.

Let’s look at data and not some random anonymous comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:European people/ not politicians/ see once again they are paying the praise for Russo-Americans games that have nothing to do with us.

I don’t care about the Donbas- they are Russian speakers anyway, let Putin have them, no NATO for Ukraine, and stop the death and economic pain.

I feel like I am back in the could war and I don’t like it.

And let me also tell you the people hate it- not the leaders who pay lip service to the us and Ukraine.

Blah blah "US Russia proxy war" bullshit.
Ukrainians are in a fight for their very survival. Russia does not consider them a legitimate people, does not think they have a right to exist as a nation, do not think their language or culture should exist. If you don't understand that fundamental truth then you understand absolutely nothing about this war.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.

Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us

Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.

Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.

You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.

That's true as long as the dead are worth nothing.

That is a scolding for Russia. Putin clearly just sees a piece of meat ready for grinding when he views his young conscripts.

Prigozhin got 50,000 prison inmates and sent them to fight at Bakhmut. A month later, it's believed that 40,000 of the 50,000 are either dead, captured or otherwise MIA. In the west that whole thing would be shocking. But in fact there is discussion about how maybe this is a good thing for Russia, criminals liquidated and no more cost to Russian taxpayers. They are truly sick and deranged.

Concur. Now you see the true former Soviet mentality. Remember that Putin is a true originally trained KGB agent, with all that means. If he cannot win, he will do as much harm as possible. Failure is not an option. As he ages, I believe he may succumb and cling to his programming. I believe he is becoming completely irrational, which is why some of his public appearances have been curtailed.

I think Simonyan hit the nail on the head when she sang the Charge of the Red Cavalry. She knows how the inner circle thinks.

I think this is why 300,000 to 500,000 troops are massing in the East for an invasion.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3841230-ukraine-warns-russia-massing-500000-troops-on-border-for-offensive/

Even though all reports indicate they are poorly equipped and probably don't have much in the way of resupplies, I don't believe that's the intent.

Imagine that all 500,000 die. Or alternatively, launch a nuke in Ukraine with 500,000 prepared to invade Poland or Wester Europe?

What is the shock value to the Russian Government if, all of a sudden, they released the actual figure of Russian casualties in Ukraine? I think Putin is seeking a complete transition of his country from Mass Formation Psychosis into Mass Psychosis.

Again, I'm not a "Russia Expert", so I hope I'm wrong?

Ukraine never released its casualty numbers either.

[Anonymous]

Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said in an interview posted to his YouTube channel on Saturday that the US and its Western allies “blocked” his efforts of mediating between Russia and Ukraine to bring an end to the war in its early days.

On March 5, 2022, Bennett traveled to Russia to meet with President Vladimir Putin. In the interview, he detailed his mediation at the time between Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, which he said he coordinated with the US, France, Germany, and the UK.

Bennett said that both sides agreed to major concessions during his mediation effort. For the Russian side, he said they dropped “denazification” as a requirement for a ceasefire. Bennett defined “denazification” as the removal of Zelensky. During his meeting in Moscow with Putin, Bennett said the Russian leader guaranteed that he wouldn’t try to kill Zelensky.

The other concession Russia made, according to Bennett, is that it wouldn’t seek the disarmament of Ukraine. For the Ukrainian side, Zelensky “renounced” that he would seek NATO membership, which Bennett said was the “reason” for Russia’s invasion.

Reports at the time reflect Bennet’s comments and said Russia and Ukraine were softening their positions. Citing Israeli officials, Axios reported on March 8 that Putin’s “proposal is difficult for Zelensky to accept but not as extreme as they anticipated. They said the proposal doesn’t include regime change in Kyiv and allows Ukraine to keep its sovereignty.”

Discussing how Western leaders felt about his mediation efforts, Bennett said then-British Prime Minister Boris Johnson took an “aggressive line” while French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz were more “pragmatic.” Bennett said President Biden adopted “both” positions.

But ultimately, the Western leaders opposed Bennet’s efforts. “I’ll say this in the broad sense. I think there was a legitimate decision by the West to keep striking Putin and not [negotiate],” Bennett said.

When asked if the Western powers “blocked” the mediation efforts, Bennet said, “Basically, yes. They blocked it, and I thought they were wrong.”

Explaining his decision to mediate, Bennett said that it was in Israel’s national interest not to pick a side in the war, citing Israel’s frequent airstrikes in Syria. Bennett said Russia has S-300 air defenses in Syria and that if “they press the button, Israeli pilots will fall.”

Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine didn’t stop with Bennett’s efforts. Later in March, Russian and Ukrainian officials met in Istanbul, Turkey, and followed up with virtual consultations. According to the account of former US officials speaking to Foreign Affairs, the two sides agreed on the framework for a tentative deal. Russian officials, including Putin, have said publicly that a deal was close following the Istanbul talks.

But the negotiations ultimately failed after more Western pressure. Boris Johnson visited Kyiv in April 2022, urging Zelensky not to negotiate with Russia. According to a report from Ukrainska Pravda, he said even if Ukraine was ready to sign a deal with Russia, Kyiv’s Western backers were not.

https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/former-israeli-pm-bennett-says-us-blocked-his-attempts-at-a-russia-ukraine-peace-deal/

But yes, let's keep pretending that it's all about what Ukraine wants.

[Anonymous]

Basically you are with the heroic Vindman, or you are Trump and Putin.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.

Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us

Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.

Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.

You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.

That's true as long as the dead are worth nothing.

That is a scolding for Russia. Putin clearly just sees a piece of meat ready for grinding when he views his young conscripts.

Prigozhin got 50,000 prison inmates and sent them to fight at Bakhmut. A month later, it's believed that 40,000 of the 50,000 are either dead, captured or otherwise MIA. In the west that whole thing would be shocking. But in fact there is discussion about how maybe this is a good thing for Russia, criminals liquidated and no more cost to Russian taxpayers. They are truly sick and deranged.

Concur. Now you see the true former Soviet mentality. Remember that Putin is a true originally trained KGB agent, with all that means. If he cannot win, he will do as much harm as possible. Failure is not an option. As he ages, I believe he may succumb and cling to his programming. I believe he is becoming completely irrational, which is why some of his public appearances have been curtailed.

I think Simonyan hit the nail on the head when she sang the Charge of the Red Cavalry. She knows how the inner circle thinks.

I think this is why 300,000 to 500,000 troops are massing in the East for an invasion.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3841230-ukraine-warns-russia-massing-500000-troops-on-border-for-offensive/

Even though all reports indicate they are poorly equipped and probably don't have much in the way of resupplies, I don't believe that's the intent.

Imagine that all 500,000 die. Or alternatively, launch a nuke in Ukraine with 500,000 prepared to invade Poland or Wester Europe?

What is the shock value to the Russian Government if, all of a sudden, they released the actual figure of Russian casualties in Ukraine? I think Putin is seeking a complete transition of his country from Mass Formation Psychosis into Mass Psychosis.

Again, I'm not a "Russia Expert", so I hope I'm wrong?

Ukraine never released its casualty numbers either.

How many Ukrainians are dying every day, on average?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:European people/ not politicians/ see once again they are paying the praise for Russo-Americans games that have nothing to do with us.

I don’t care about the Donbas- they are Russian speakers anyway, let Putin have them, no NATO for Ukraine, and stop the death and economic pain.

I feel like I am back in the could war and I don’t like it.

And let me also tell you the people hate it- not the leaders who pay lip service to the us and Ukraine.

Let’s look at data and not some random anonymous comment.

Cowards protected by social safety nets they think are infinite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.

Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us

Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.

Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.

You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.

That's true as long as the dead are worth nothing.

That is a scolding for Russia. Putin clearly just sees a piece of meat ready for grinding when he views his young conscripts.

Prigozhin got 50,000 prison inmates and sent them to fight at Bakhmut. A month later, it's believed that 40,000 of the 50,000 are either dead, captured or otherwise MIA. In the west that whole thing would be shocking. But in fact there is discussion about how maybe this is a good thing for Russia, criminals liquidated and no more cost to Russian taxpayers. They are truly sick and deranged.

Concur. Now you see the true former Soviet mentality. Remember that Putin is a true originally trained KGB agent, with all that means. If he cannot win, he will do as much harm as possible. Failure is not an option. As he ages, I believe he may succumb and cling to his programming. I believe he is becoming completely irrational, which is why some of his public appearances have been curtailed.

I think Simonyan hit the nail on the head when she sang the Charge of the Red Cavalry. She knows how the inner circle thinks.

I think this is why 300,000 to 500,000 troops are massing in the East for an invasion.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3841230-ukraine-warns-russia-massing-500000-troops-on-border-for-offensive/

Even though all reports indicate they are poorly equipped and probably don't have much in the way of resupplies, I don't believe that's the intent.

Imagine that all 500,000 die. Or alternatively, launch a nuke in Ukraine with 500,000 prepared to invade Poland or Wester Europe?

What is the shock value to the Russian Government if, all of a sudden, they released the actual figure of Russian casualties in Ukraine? I think Putin is seeking a complete transition of his country from Mass Formation Psychosis into Mass Psychosis.

Again, I'm not a "Russia Expert", so I hope I'm wrong?

Ukraine never released its casualty numbers either.

How many Ukrainians are dying every day, on average?

Not enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said in an interview posted to his YouTube channel on Saturday that the US and its Western allies “blocked” his efforts of mediating between Russia and Ukraine to bring an end to the war in its early days.

On March 5, 2022, Bennett traveled to Russia to meet with President Vladimir Putin. In the interview, he detailed his mediation at the time between Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, which he said he coordinated with the US, France, Germany, and the UK.

Bennett said that both sides agreed to major concessions during his mediation effort. For the Russian side, he said they dropped “denazification” as a requirement for a ceasefire. Bennett defined “denazification” as the removal of Zelensky. During his meeting in Moscow with Putin, Bennett said the Russian leader guaranteed that he wouldn’t try to kill Zelensky.

The other concession Russia made, according to Bennett, is that it wouldn’t seek the disarmament of Ukraine. For the Ukrainian side, Zelensky “renounced” that he would seek NATO membership, which Bennett said was the “reason” for Russia’s invasion.

Reports at the time reflect Bennet’s comments and said Russia and Ukraine were softening their positions. Citing Israeli officials, Axios reported on March 8 that Putin’s “proposal is difficult for Zelensky to accept but not as extreme as they anticipated. They said the proposal doesn’t include regime change in Kyiv and allows Ukraine to keep its sovereignty.”

Discussing how Western leaders felt about his mediation efforts, Bennett said then-British Prime Minister Boris Johnson took an “aggressive line” while French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz were more “pragmatic.” Bennett said President Biden adopted “both” positions.

But ultimately, the Western leaders opposed Bennet’s efforts. “I’ll say this in the broad sense. I think there was a legitimate decision by the West to keep striking Putin and not [negotiate],” Bennett said.

When asked if the Western powers “blocked” the mediation efforts, Bennet said, “Basically, yes. They blocked it, and I thought they were wrong.”

Explaining his decision to mediate, Bennett said that it was in Israel’s national interest not to pick a side in the war, citing Israel’s frequent airstrikes in Syria. Bennett said Russia has S-300 air defenses in Syria and that if “they press the button, Israeli pilots will fall.”

Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine didn’t stop with Bennett’s efforts. Later in March, Russian and Ukrainian officials met in Istanbul, Turkey, and followed up with virtual consultations. According to the account of former US officials speaking to Foreign Affairs, the two sides agreed on the framework for a tentative deal. Russian officials, including Putin, have said publicly that a deal was close following the Istanbul talks.

But the negotiations ultimately failed after more Western pressure. Boris Johnson visited Kyiv in April 2022, urging Zelensky not to negotiate with Russia. According to a report from Ukrainska Pravda, he said even if Ukraine was ready to sign a deal with Russia, Kyiv’s Western backers were not.

https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/former-israeli-pm-bennett-says-us-blocked-his-attempts-at-a-russia-ukraine-peace-deal/

But yes, let's keep pretending that it's all about what Ukraine wants.

lol sure. I believe the Israelis! The Israelis picked a side and it was not the side the US was on. This just shows that Israel is not our ally and will abandon us when ever they see a tiny bit of gain.