BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

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Anonymous wrote:At this point the level of denial and insistence on running back into the buzz saw of these COVID waves can only be understood as a form of collective trauma response. You think you’re “moving on” but you’re actually performing a kind of dissociation. It’s so sad to watch.

Very sad, and also exhausting to coexist with.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point the level of denial and insistence on running back into the buzz saw of these COVID waves can only be understood as a form of collective trauma response. You think you’re “moving on” but you’re actually performing a kind of dissociation. It’s so sad to watch.

Way to pathologize people simply living their lives and doing normal things.

It is pathological to not adjust how you live your life and what you call normal activity to a changing environment and new set of risks.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Ok but how much longer would you like those without risks to stay inside, mask and quarantine when the best we can do via vaccines is already here. Another year? Two? Fifteen?

When has a healthy child's debt to others been paid?

How about we all work together given we all live, work and socialize in a highly populated area. What debt have you paid? I got sick a month ago, got better, caught something else and in bed for two weeks now? My kids have been in virtual and outside a few activities we are home and don’t see anyone. We,ve done our part and my kids will continue to pay the price for your unwillingness to take part in basic precautions. It’s not your kids paying the price, it’s mine. Your kids are not paying the price as you don’t care and did not teach them to care about the needs of others. It’s all about you and your wants.

The vaccines were not formulated for the new mutations.

So, you’re traipsing around and getting sick twice in one month and lecturing others about their actions? Ok cuckoo. If you’re running around getting sick anyway, why lock your kids up and make them into antisocial weirdos? You’re kids are playing a price alright…a price for mommy’s mental illness.

Yet be nice to have you’re privilege. My kids lost a parent already. Is that not enough? They choose to stay home. He feels terrible now they gave me their cold. At least I am reasoning decent kids. You should try it but it’s hard when you cannot show by example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this point the level of denial and insistence on running back into the buzz saw of these COVID waves can only be understood as a form of collective trauma response. You think you’re “moving on” but you’re actually performing a kind of dissociation. It’s so sad to watch.

This is not trauma.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Please. Immunocompromised persons can wear N95 masks and social distance. It’s not like they didn’t have to do this during flu season every year before covid. Frankly, your post drips of wishing ill health on the PP.

It’s not that simple.

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Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

I doubt that.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Ok but how much longer would you like those without risks to stay inside, mask and quarantine when the best we can do via vaccines is already here. Another year? Two? Fifteen?

When has a healthy child's debt to others been paid?

How about we all work together given we all live, work and socialize in a highly populated area. What debt have you paid? I got sick a month ago, got better, caught something else and in bed for two weeks now? My kids have been in virtual and outside a few activities we are home and don’t see anyone. We,ve done our part and my kids will continue to pay the price for your unwillingness to take part in basic precautions. It’s not your kids paying the price, it’s mine. Your kids are not paying the price as you don’t care and did not teach them to care about the needs of others. It’s all about you and your wants.

The vaccines were not formulated for the new mutations.

So, you’re traipsing around and getting sick twice in one month and lecturing others about their actions? Ok cuckoo. If you’re running around getting sick anyway, why lock your kids up and make them into antisocial weirdos? You’re kids are playing a price alright…a price for mommy’s mental illness.

I am not running around getting sick. I am home. My kid got it from sports, shared it with me, I gave it back and then caught it again. I rarely go out.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Please. Immunocompromised persons can wear N95 masks and social distance. It’s not like they didn’t have to do this during flu season every year before covid. Frankly, your post drips of wishing ill health on the PP.

It’s not that simple.

NP
Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

+1 I am immunocompromised. I am living my life with appropriate precautions, but what other people do? None of my concern. To insist that other people stop living their lives would be the height of arrogance and lack of humility. It's disgusting. I'm not a selfish a**hole.

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Anonymous wrote:THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not nice. I have it on vacation right now and I am sick as a dog.

I run a training class and we had multiple speakers (all of whom are vaccinated due to work requirements) out due to covid. It really put us in a bind! While some people are mocking the situation (“The sky is falling!”), it’s not funny for those of us who have to deal with the consequences.

Fools! It’s time to stop testing and treating this variant like it’s the 2020 version. Hint - it’s not …

Hint: Per a microbiologist at Scripps, B.A.5 is “the worst variant we’ve had yet.”

Cool story bro

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Anonymous wrote:I had Covid last week. I wish I knew if I had this variant or the stealth variant.

I picked it up in NYC

If you tested positive, it wasn't the stealth variant.

huh? that’s not true.

Yes it is. It is called "stealth" because you don't test positive.

Um, the tests work. Stealth refers to something else. https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/why-calling-the-highly-contagious-covid-19-omicron-ba-2-a-stealth-variant-is-a-misnomer/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At this point the level of denial and insistence on running back into the buzz saw of these COVID waves can only be understood as a form of collective trauma response. You think you’re “moving on” but you’re actually performing a kind of dissociation. It’s so sad to watch.

Way to pathologize people simply living their lives and doing normal things.

It is pathological to not adjust how you live your life and what you call normal activity to a changing environment and new set of risks.

What you don’t seem to get is that people HAVE made the adjustment. We’ve adjusted, stayed adjusted, and moved on. It’s just that our adjustment is not “mask all the time, isolate at the slightest sign of a cold symptom, avoid restaurants and travel, etc.”

My family wears masks when required, if we have cold symptoms, or when around an immunocompromised friend or family member. We do rapid tests if we get symptoms and PCRs if symptoms persist or we are about to do something higher risk (travel for work, go to a wedding). But otherwise… our lives are normal. We go to restaurants, socialize with friends, attend concerts and weddings, travel. We don’t think about Covid most days— only if we are sick or have a reason to take extra precautions.

We have moved on. That doesn’t mean we e forgotten Covid exists, it just means it’s one of many factors we consider in our daily life, and rarely the top consideration. That’s not pathological. It’s reasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point the level of denial and insistence on running back into the buzz saw of these COVID waves can only be understood as a form of collective trauma response. You think you’re “moving on” but you’re actually performing a kind of dissociation. It’s so sad to watch.

Way to pathologize people simply living their lives and doing normal things.

It is pathological to not adjust how you live your life and what you call normal activity to a changing environment and new set of risks.

What you don’t seem to get is that people HAVE made the adjustment. We’ve adjusted, stayed adjusted, and moved on. It’s just that our adjustment is not “mask all the time, isolate at the slightest sign of a cold symptom, avoid restaurants and travel, etc.”

My family wears masks when required, if we have cold symptoms, or when around an immunocompromised friend or family member. We do rapid tests if we get symptoms and PCRs if symptoms persist or we are about to do something higher risk (travel for work, go to a wedding). But otherwise… our lives are normal. We go to restaurants, socialize with friends, attend concerts and weddings, travel. We don’t think about Covid most days— only if we are sick or have a reason to take extra precautions.

We have moved on. That doesn’t mean we e forgotten Covid exists, it just means it’s one of many factors we consider in our daily life, and rarely the top consideration. That’s not pathological. It’s reasonable.

If you moved on, why are you posting about it? Clearly you have not moved on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

That is the most hilarious thing I've read from a minimizer in a while.
Yes, let's look at airlines together! Was that 'plummeting of incidents', and by 'incidents' I suppose you mean anti-mask tantrums, worth the plummeting in... scheduled flights? Has flying been better this summer once we lightened the "societal cost" of masking on planes? This is unbelievably funny.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point the level of denial and insistence on running back into the buzz saw of these COVID waves can only be understood as a form of collective trauma response. You think you’re “moving on” but you’re actually performing a kind of dissociation. It’s so sad to watch.

Way to pathologize people simply living their lives and doing normal things.

It is pathological to not adjust how you live your life and what you call normal activity to a changing environment and new set of risks.

What you don’t seem to get is that people HAVE made the adjustment. We’ve adjusted, stayed adjusted, and moved on. It’s just that our adjustment is not “mask all the time, isolate at the slightest sign of a cold symptom, avoid restaurants and travel, etc.”

My family wears masks when required, if we have cold symptoms, or when around an immunocompromised friend or family member. We do rapid tests if we get symptoms and PCRs if symptoms persist or we are about to do something higher risk (travel for work, go to a wedding). But otherwise… our lives are normal. We go to restaurants, socialize with friends, attend concerts and weddings, travel. We don’t think about Covid most days— only if we are sick or have a reason to take extra precautions.

We have moved on. That doesn’t mean we e forgotten Covid exists, it just means it’s one of many factors we consider in our daily life, and rarely the top consideration. That’s not pathological. It’s reasonable.

If you moved on, why are you posting about it? Clearly you have not moved on.

Eh, mostly I’m bored and I find it fascinating to watch y’all freak the eff out every day about how some new variant is going to kill us all, or how long Covid is secretly killing babies, or whatever.

[Anonymous]

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NP
Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

Two possibilities: Either you live in a state like Florida, or you have a stage 4 cancer, and your oncologist thinks you should go to restaurants now rather than wait out chemo (even if you don't get seriously sick from covid, why would you want to have to postpone a covid cycle due to getting covid?) - because you might be dead in 6 months. I hope it's the former. The reality is that crowded indoor spaces would be much safer for everyone if those sick with covid actually wore masks...and any serious oncologist knows this.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Well said.