Justice High School

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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


Probably a combination of all of them.
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


Probably a combination of all of them.


In every school there is turnover--teachers retire, move because a spouse has a job relocation, stay home to have a baby, etc. This school year has been rough in every school, not just Justice. Across the board there are more people opting to retire or leave. But if there was a pie chart showing the reasons by percentage, my guess would be that the principal lacking control and building a positive culture would be the largest percentage. The parking and racist teacher reasons are not reasonable. Given that the number of vacancies significantly outweighs the other high schools, it has to be about the school culture. The principal is responsible for setting that tone.
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.



It's known for being a stepping stone district. Lots of people want to work here because if they can do something with poor brown kids they are likely to get a promotion. Pretty much all the instructional "coaches" at these schools just want some data so they can go onto better things.
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.



It's known for being a stepping stone district. Lots of people want to work here because if they can do something with poor brown kids they are likely to get a promotion. Pretty much all the instructional "coaches" at these schools just want some data so they can go onto better things.


Is that really a bad thing? Sounds like the go-getter type-As would work harder to push for change and aim for better results in poor schools, even if it's for selfish reasons. What's their end goal anyway? To get to Langley/McLean and have to deal with helicopter parents and lawyer threats every day?
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.



It's known for being a stepping stone district. Lots of people want to work here because if they can do something with poor brown kids they are likely to get a promotion. Pretty much all the instructional "coaches" at these schools just want some data so they can go onto better things.


Is that really a bad thing? Sounds like the go-getter type-As would work harder to push for change and aim for better results in poor schools, even if it's for selfish reasons. What's their end goal anyway? To get to Langley/McLean and have to deal with helicopter parents and lawyer threats every day?


"Helicopter" parent of Langley kids here. What are these "better results" you are speaking of?
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.



It's known for being a stepping stone district. Lots of people want to work here because if they can do something with poor brown kids they are likely to get a promotion. Pretty much all the instructional "coaches" at these schools just want some data so they can go onto better things.


Is that really a bad thing? Sounds like the go-getter type-As would work harder to push for change and aim for better results in poor schools, even if it's for selfish reasons. What's their end goal anyway? To get to Langley/McLean and have to deal with helicopter parents and lawyer threats every day?


"Helicopter" parent of Langley kids here. What are these "better results" you are speaking of?


DP. I’d like to know this too.
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.



It's known for being a stepping stone district. Lots of people want to work here because if they can do something with poor brown kids they are likely to get a promotion. Pretty much all the instructional "coaches" at these schools just want some data so they can go onto better things.


Is that really a bad thing? Sounds like the go-getter type-As would work harder to push for change and aim for better results in poor schools, even if it's for selfish reasons. What's their end goal anyway? To get to Langley/McLean and have to deal with helicopter parents and lawyer threats every day?


"Helicopter" parent of Langley kids here. What are these "better results" you are speaking of?


Is that a loaded question? I don't understand what you're implying. Poorer schools in FCPS do worse on SOLs and just about every other academic measure due to socioeconomic factors. Better results means improving academic outcomes for students who live in poverty.
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I don't know - while I agree some admin/ teachers and staff are motivated to teach at poor performing schools in order to show results such as improved test scores, etc that will allow them to advance/be promoted, I have found that most educators who choose poor performing/low SES schools are intrinsically motivated and enjoy the challenge and fulfillment those jobs can provide. In my own (limited) experience, at a Title I ES then LJMS and FCHS, I found that to be true. Especially for the teachers, but also the administrators.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know - while I agree some admin/ teachers and staff are motivated to teach at poor performing schools in order to show results such as improved test scores, etc that will allow them to advance/be promoted, I have found that most educators who choose poor performing/low SES schools are intrinsically motivated and enjoy the challenge and fulfillment those jobs can provide. In my own (limited) experience, at a Title I ES then LJMS and FCHS, I found that to be true. Especially for the teachers, but also the administrators.


There is student loan forgiveness for up to $17k for high school teachers in Title 1 schools.
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Good! There should be a monetary incentive also.
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.



It's known for being a stepping stone district. Lots of people want to work here because if they can do something with poor brown kids they are likely to get a promotion. Pretty much all the instructional "coaches" at these schools just want some data so they can go onto better things.


Is that really a bad thing? Sounds like the go-getter type-As would work harder to push for change and aim for better results in poor schools, even if it's for selfish reasons. What's their end goal anyway? To get to Langley/McLean and have to deal with helicopter parents and lawyer threats every day?


The last time FCPS made public the results of a teacher satisfaction survey, the two high schools with the highest teacher satisfaction ratings were Falls Church HS and McLean HS. I recall this because it was around the time Prosperanta Calhoun was running into so much trouble at Stuart HS and the teacher satisfaction ratings were the lowest in the county.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know - while I agree some admin/ teachers and staff are motivated to teach at poor performing schools in order to show results such as improved test scores, etc that will allow them to advance/be promoted, I have found that most educators who choose poor performing/low SES schools are intrinsically motivated and enjoy the challenge and fulfillment those jobs can provide. In my own (limited) experience, at a Title I ES then LJMS and FCHS, I found that to be true. Especially for the teachers, but also the administrators.


There is student loan forgiveness for up to $17k for high school teachers in Title 1 schools.


There are no Title 1 high schools in FCPS - do you mean elementary schools?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know - while I agree some admin/ teachers and staff are motivated to teach at poor performing schools in order to show results such as improved test scores, etc that will allow them to advance/be promoted, I have found that most educators who choose poor performing/low SES schools are intrinsically motivated and enjoy the challenge and fulfillment those jobs can provide. In my own (limited) experience, at a Title I ES then LJMS and FCHS, I found that to be true. Especially for the teachers, but also the administrators.


There is student loan forgiveness for up to $17k for high school teachers in Title 1 schools.


There are no Title 1 high schools in FCPS - do you mean elementary schools?


While they are not technically labeled title one schools, low income middle and high schools qualify for the same benefits as title one schools. Only sped and science teachers get 16,500. Everyone else gets 5000.
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Anonymous wrote:Justice currently has the highest number of vacancies but other schools also have a lot of turnover this year. Principals have already filled many positions for next year for staff that have resigned.

Anonymous wrote:Justice does seem to be an outlier when it comes to current staff vacancies (the numbers reflect the fact that some positions are part-time positions):

Justice 14.00
South County 8.00
West Potomac 8.00
Fairfax 7.50
Woodson 6.50
Oakton 6.00
West Springfield 6.00
Lewis 5.50
South Lakes 5.17
Herndon 5.00
Westfield 5.00
Langley 4.83
Centreville 4.00
Edison 4.00
Falls Church 4.00
Lake Braddock 3.66
Annandale 3.33
Chantilly 3.00
Mount Vernon 3.00
McLean 2.67
Hayfield 2.00
Robinson 2.00
Marshall 1.00
TJHSST 1.00
Madison 0.00


I work at Justice and have for 10+ years and I've never seen turnover like right now. Almost the entire science department will be gone next year, lots of English teachers are leaving. I think the turnover is higher than when Calhoun was the principal. Penny and Maria really got the school back on track, but this year has been abysmal.


I would really appreciate a "root cause" explanation for why the high turnover is occurring. How much is due to overall teacher burnout post-Covid, how much relates to the parking situation, and how much relates to a principal who doesn't have control over her school? Or is it racist teachers who cannot accept that they must answer to a Black principal?


With all of the high schools hiring in FCPS, do you really think a racist teacher would choose Justice?


Some people don't mind being in a position of power over minority students. It's different to report to a POC. The Black principal of Justice just took over this year.


Ms. Eck is Hispanic. They've been reporting to a person of color for years.


Ms. Eck is the daughter of Cuban-American immigrants. https://springhilles.fcps.edu/features/welcome-principal-eck She transferred from a high school with a 54% Hispanic population to an elementary school that has 5% of a Hispanic population.

I agree with the PP that there is probably a series of things going on and it is piling on top of each other. What really frustrates me about the principals in Mason District is that they don't stay. Collectively, my kids have had almost 10 principals since elementary, middle, and high school.



It's known for being a stepping stone district. Lots of people want to work here because if they can do something with poor brown kids they are likely to get a promotion. Pretty much all the instructional "coaches" at these schools just want some data so they can go onto better things.


Is that really a bad thing? Sounds like the go-getter type-As would work harder to push for change and aim for better results in poor schools, even if it's for selfish reasons. What's their end goal anyway? To get to Langley/McLean and have to deal with helicopter parents and lawyer threats every day?


"Helicopter" parent of Langley kids here. What are these "better results" you are speaking of?


Is that a loaded question? I don't understand what you're implying. Poorer schools in FCPS do worse on SOLs and just about every other academic measure due to socioeconomic factors. Better results means improving academic outcomes for students who live in poverty.


Are these improvements demonstrated somewhere?
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