Another violent incident at a MCPS school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

this is like a "boys will be boys" attitude. Do you also think that it's fine for boys to slap girls' butts, grab'em by the pu$$ies?

No. I don’t and I think they should be disciplined based on severity of what they did.

Do you think more girls get their bars snapped today than they did 10 years ago … since your perspective is that “it’s all going down hill”.

Do more get “grabbed by the pu$$y” with no response from the school?

I also don’t think an SRO should respond to a girls bra being snapped because that is nit a reasonable response.

Abuse was more acceptable back then; rape was harder to convict; sexual harrassment laws were not really in existence; racism was more acceptable.

We should be more "woke" today, right? Why should we keep accepting sh1tty behavior by HS kids?

[Anonymous]

The headline should say assault and robbery instead of just robbery.

I posted this question on the last thread about Magruder and I'm posting it again - what is being done to keep students safe in bathrooms and locker rooms? Students should feel safe everywhere inside their schools.

Some HS students I've spoken with have compared their experiences in schools to being in jail. I'm starting to see why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees

I'd agree that this isn't new (I was robbed in high school although it was less traumatic than this sounds), but if you both assault someone and steal something, that's a charge of robbery and it's a felony. I'm fine with the police being involved with that. I don't think it's a sign of crisis, but it's a serious charge.

Theft of used shoes is literally theft of <$50. No it’s not a felony FFS!

It’s neither serious nor trauma but it does require discipline.

Well, not to nitpicking, but used sneakers routinely go for 75-100 bucks.

But let me tell you, I got mugged. As an adult. And I probably lost about 50 bucks in cash and my old wallet. I cancelled all cards. So at the end of the day, I was out 50 bucks plus the cost of a new wallet.

And it was traumatic AF.

The cost of the theft is irrelevant to the fear/trauma inflected.

Plus, layer in that the victim is a CHILD!!!!! And that victim deserves the respect. They should not have to sit in a class with or pass their mugger in a hallway.

In case you can't tell, the community is starting to get frustrated with MCPS' approach to discipline.

And for all the posters who are saying this is just reflective of the increased crime in the community: where do you think all those criminals in the community first started? They started with stunts like this. If we want to improve crime in 5-8 years, we need to teach these young men and women at the early age that theft and violence is unacceptable and has severe consequences.

But to nitpick but unless the shoes cost >$500 it’s a misdemeanor.

The assault and battery with no bodily harm is also a misdemeanor and a juvenile offense literally has no criminal consequences.

Actually assaults like these in society come from not educating kids and putting them in the criminal justice system at an early age. Denying them an education will lead them to assault in the future.

We educate people for society not for the children.

I don’t think the victim should ever see them again and the perps should move.

Your reflexive reaction based in your own trauma is delusional.

Robbery is a felony, even if the robber takes a carrot from the victim.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And watch, these types of incidents will continue.

And more MC parents will tighten their belts and switch to private, or move to neighboring counties.

And next summer/fall, MCPS will announce another drop in attendance.

And they will pontificate, and tweet about it, and wring their hands, and wonder what to do about the corresponding reduction in funding.

And. Nothing. Will. Change.

We just bought a new place in Clarksburg which we thought was our forever home a few years ago and we are now seriously contemplating taking a possible loss to move out of MoCo. I can't imagine sending my kids to a school that has neverending violent fights.

And where are you moving to because similar incidents happen everyday is schools all across the country, including are neighboring counties and have been for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

this is like a "boys will be boys" attitude. Do you also think that it's fine for boys to slap girls' butts, grab'em by the pu$$ies?

No. I don’t and I think they should be disciplined based on severity of what they did.

Do you think more girls get their bars snapped today than they did 10 years ago … since your perspective is that “it’s all going down hill”.

Do more get “grabbed by the pu$$y” with no response from the school?

I also don’t think an SRO should respond to a girls bra being snapped because that is nit a reasonable response.

Abuse was more acceptable back then; rape was harder to convict; sexual harrassment laws were not really in existence; racism was more acceptable.

We should be more "woke" today, right? Why should we keep accepting sh1tty behavior by HS kids?

No one said we should accept their behavior, but we also don’t need all HS behavior to result in criminal charged and marked school records. And all tou claiming otherwise only think so because its not your kid, yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And watch, these types of incidents will continue.

And more MC parents will tighten their belts and switch to private, or move to neighboring counties.

And next summer/fall, MCPS will announce another drop in attendance.

And they will pontificate, and tweet about it, and wring their hands, and wonder what to do about the corresponding reduction in funding.

And. Nothing. Will. Change.

We just bought a new place in Clarksburg which we thought was our forever home a few years ago and we are now seriously contemplating taking a possible loss to move out of MoCo. I can't imagine sending my kids to a school that has neverending violent fights.

And where are you moving to because similar incidents happen everyday is schools all across the country, including are neighboring counties and have been for decades.

Wrong. Look around at the next county over where the local politicians and BoE aren't crazy over-the-top social justice warriors. I have plenty of friends there and this isn't happening as frequently at their schools.

[Anonymous]

advocates care more about arresting black and brown kids than they do physically protecting black and brown kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Why is that OK? If your kid was the victim, would you be ok with it? The kid is at best terrified, humiliated, and at worst hurt. why should our kids go through that?

[Anonymous]

It feels like a jail because form follows function - Moco’s supersized schools LOOK like jails. Seneca Valley being the latest example…what is the size? 5,000 students?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

this is like a "boys will be boys" attitude. Do you also think that it's fine for boys to slap girls' butts, grab'em by the pu$$ies?

No. I don’t and I think they should be disciplined based on severity of what they did.

Do you think more girls get their bars snapped today than they did 10 years ago … since your perspective is that “it’s all going down hill”.

Do more get “grabbed by the pu$$y” with no response from the school?

I also don’t think an SRO should respond to a girls bra being snapped because that is nit a reasonable response.

Abuse was more acceptable back then; rape was harder to convict; sexual harrassment laws were not really in existence; racism was more acceptable.

We should be more "woke" today, right? Why should we keep accepting sh1tty behavior by HS kids?

I find it odd when posters agree with me but still think we disagree.

So we agree it’s better, MCPS is not “going then hill”… crime is way down compared to previous years/decades.

Kids should be disciplined by schools not the criminal Justice system for misbehaving.

Kumbaya! We are all on the same page.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:advocates care more about arresting black and brown kids than they do physically protecting black and brown kids.

I'm advocating for the return of SROs and I could care less about the color of criminals. If a kid does a crime, then they should be arrested. You're the one that's making this about skin color.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And watch, these types of incidents will continue.

And more MC parents will tighten their belts and switch to private, or move to neighboring counties.

And next summer/fall, MCPS will announce another drop in attendance.

And they will pontificate, and tweet about it, and wring their hands, and wonder what to do about the corresponding reduction in funding.

And. Nothing. Will. Change.

We just bought a new place in Clarksburg which we thought was our forever home a few years ago and we are now seriously contemplating taking a possible loss to move out of MoCo. I can't imagine sending my kids to a school that has neverending violent fights.

And where are you moving to because similar incidents happen everyday is schools all across the country, including are neighboring counties and have been for decades.

Wrong. Look around at the next county over where the local politicians and BoE aren't crazy over-the-top social justice warriors. I have plenty of friends there and this isn't happening as frequently at their schools.

Please move to a red state where a fight in the bathroom is part of becoming a man.

[Anonymous]

I went to RM in the 90s. Why are you all acting like things were perfect? There were always fights, occasionally (rarely) with knives involved. My friend got punched in the nose by another girl once and her nose was broken, there was blood everywhere. I don’t recall anyone intervening or even anyone outside of my class knowing it happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

Really? Which High School?

All of them

Name them. Or it just did not happen.

Whitman
Wj
Wootton
Rm
Blair
Northwood
Einstein
Good counsel
Prep
Wheaton
Sherwood
Rockville
Spring book
Holy cross
Stone ridge
Holy child … but they usually stole your bra after gym.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It feels like a jail because form follows function - Moco’s supersized schools LOOK like jails. Seneca Valley being the latest example…what is the size? 5,000 students?!

Seneca Valley has a capacity of 2551 students.