Another violent incident at a MCPS school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees

I'd agree that this isn't new (I was robbed in high school although it was less traumatic than this sounds), but if you both assault someone and steal something, that's a charge of robbery and it's a felony. I'm fine with the police being involved with that. I don't think it's a sign of crisis, but it's a serious charge.

Theft of used shoes is literally theft of <$50. No it’s not a felony FFS!

It’s neither serious nor trauma but it does require discipline.

There's a difference between theft and robbery. If you take something that belongs to someone else, that's theft. If you take something by force or threat of force, that's robbery, and it's a felony regardless of value. If the kid was assaulted (force) by a part of a group, while other people in the group took his shoes, that's robbery (and a felony) even if all they took a nickel from his pocket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees

I'd agree that this isn't new (I was robbed in high school although it was less traumatic than this sounds), but if you both assault someone and steal something, that's a charge of robbery and it's a felony. I'm fine with the police being involved with that. I don't think it's a sign of crisis, but it's a serious charge.

Theft of used shoes is literally theft of <$50. No it’s not a felony FFS!

It’s neither serious nor trauma but it does require discipline.

Well, not to nitpicking, but used sneakers routinely go for 75-100 bucks.

But let me tell you, I got mugged. As an adult. And I probably lost about 50 bucks in cash and my old wallet. I cancelled all cards. So at the end of the day, I was out 50 bucks plus the cost of a new wallet.

And it was traumatic AF.

The cost of the theft is irrelevant to the fear/trauma inflected.

Plus, layer in that the victim is a CHILD!!!!! And that victim deserves the respect. They should not have to sit in a class with or pass their mugger in a hallway.

In case you can't tell, the community is starting to get frustrated with MCPS' approach to discipline.

And for all the posters who are saying this is just reflective of the increased crime in the community: where do you think all those criminals in the community first started? They started with stunts like this. If we want to improve crime in 5-8 years, we need to teach these young men and women at the early age that theft and violence is unacceptable and has severe consequences.

But to nitpick but unless the shoes cost >$500 it’s a misdemeanor.

The assault and battery with no bodily harm is also a misdemeanor and a juvenile offense literally has no criminal consequences.

Actually assaults like these in society come from not educating kids and putting them in the criminal justice system at an early age. Denying them an education will lead them to assault in the future.

We educate people for society not for the children.

I don’t think the victim should ever see them again and the perps should move.

Your reflexive reaction based in your own trauma is delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Northwood HS in Silver Spring:

https://wjla.com/news/local/northwood-high-school-students-robbery-rob-bathroom-assault-shoes-montgomery-county-silver-spring

This is becoming a daily occurrence throughout MCPS. What will BOE/MCPS do to address this?

This is becoming a daily occurrence thoughout our COUNTRY. What we will as a society do to address this. We are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past due.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees

I'd agree that this isn't new (I was robbed in high school although it was less traumatic than this sounds), but if you both assault someone and steal something, that's a charge of robbery and it's a felony. I'm fine with the police being involved with that. I don't think it's a sign of crisis, but it's a serious charge.

Theft of used shoes is literally theft of <$50. No it’s not a felony FFS!

It’s neither serious nor trauma but it does require discipline.

There's a difference between theft and robbery. If you take something that belongs to someone else, that's theft. If you take something by force or threat of force, that's robbery, and it's a felony regardless of value. If the kid was assaulted (force) by a part of a group, while other people in the group took his shoes, that's robbery (and a felony) even if all they took a nickel from his pocket.

If you want to be picky about law.

Assault is the threat of violence, battery is the actual violence. Go back to google and clean up your post.

No matter which words you use this is not a felony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees

I'd agree that this isn't new (I was robbed in high school although it was less traumatic than this sounds), but if you both assault someone and steal something, that's a charge of robbery and it's a felony. I'm fine with the police being involved with that. I don't think it's a sign of crisis, but it's a serious charge.

Theft of used shoes is literally theft of <$50. No it’s not a felony FFS!

It’s neither serious nor trauma but it does require discipline.

There's a difference between theft and robbery. If you take something that belongs to someone else, that's theft. If you take something by force or threat of force, that's robbery, and it's a felony regardless of value. If the kid was assaulted (force) by a part of a group, while other people in the group took his shoes, that's robbery (and a felony) even if all they took a nickel from his pocket.

If you want to be picky about law.

Assault is the threat of violence, battery is the actual violence. Go back to google and clean up your post.

No matter which words you use this is not a felony.

Maryland criminal law uses the word "assault" to describe both the common law offenses of assault and battery. I know this because I've been a practicing criminal lawyer in Maryland, not because of Google. That's how I know what robbery is and that it's a felony, too. It's not "picky" to define the offenses properly.

Also, if your the other poster talking about $500, that's ALSO wrong. In Maryland felony theft starts at $1,500. Still doesn't matter if you commit a robbery, though. You're very confident for someone who's gotten basically everything wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

this is like a "boys will be boys" attitude. Do you also think that it's fine for boys to slap girls' butts, grab'em by the pu$$ies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

Really? Which High School?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

Really? Which High School?

All of them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

this is like a "boys will be boys" attitude. Do you also think that it's fine for boys to slap girls' butts, grab'em by the pu$$ies?

No. I don’t and I think they should be disciplined based on severity of what they did.

Do you think more girls get their bars snapped today than they did 10 years ago … since your perspective is that “it’s all going down hill”.

Do more get “grabbed by the pu$$y” with no response from the school?

I also don’t think an SRO should respond to a girls bra being snapped because that is nit a reasonable response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees

Robbery? So if you were in a dressing room at the mall and were confronted by a group who took your shoes, you would be good with not reporting it to the police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sadly this isn't uncommon. Ask your kids to show you TikTok and Snapchat videos of fights happening at their schools.

This. My kid pretty much avoids going to the bathroom all day at school.

Mine too. Instead of SRO, why not reopen Mark Twain school for kids like this and get them out of the high schools. It's disgusting that a kid can't even go to the bathroom without fear of something bad happening.
RJ does not work for some kids and esp. when it isn't implemented correctly.
I have repeatedly reached out to BOE and MCPS listing some of the huge issues stemming from some kids that are causing fear in students and staff. Ignored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They took the kid's shoes in a bathroom without a weapon. Should be disciplined, but I think this is only making news because of the Magruder incident. I'm sure these types of things happen every day.

Maybe if it happens to your kid you will change your deaf tune.

These types of things did happen to my children… and my siblings… and myself… and my friends. It’s HS.

Really? Which High School?

All of them

Name them. Or it just did not happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not new this happened with SRO’s in the school. This happened in the 2000’s, the 90’s, the 80’s, the 70’s… this is not new.

This is not a police matter

I agree the victim should not go to school with these kids.

If it’s a police matter, they get charged with simple assault, misdemeanor … no punishment and are in school next day.

Y’all are missing the forest for the trees

Robbery? So if you were in a dressing room at the mall and were confronted by a group who took your shoes, you would be good with not reporting it to the police?

Right. and these posters that are acting likes its no big deal are full of sh$t.

Imagine if 4 coworkers jumped you in the bathroom, beat you up, and took your shoes.

And HR said "come on, this isn't a big deal. no, we're not going to call the police. No, we're not going to fire these people. Yes, you'll have to share the break room with them when you are all on break together."