Another violent incident at a MCPS school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of the reason is the covert racism, innuendos and microaggressions students are being exposed to by staff members. Over the years I have had numerous parents come and tell me what they have heard when my colleagues have been gossiping in the presence of the parents, thinking the parent is unable to understand English. I have had students both in elementary and middle school tell me what Ms. X was saying Ms. Y about me. All of us get these annual trainings about being tolerant of each other, but when it comes to implementation, the reality is different. In my colleagues' mindset, someone who looks like me and sounds like me should be a building service worker, a secretary or at most a teacher's assistant. This culture is being passed to the students. Not everyone is very strong emotionally. Not every student is strong enough to ignore and look the other way. Some of them are exploding.

Here another example of how some in the society look at everything through lens of race. This is exactly what MCPS leadership is doing as well. They are appeasing a certain group and drag everyone else to the mud.
This discussion is about violence in the school perpetuated by some that impacts staff, teachers and the students who are more academically focused. We need SROs at school and provide support for violent kids outside of school not endangering other kids who just want to learn

Who'll be the educational gatekeepers? Who gets to decide who is "violent"? What about the systematically bullied kid who finally strikes back? Is he "violent"? Or a couple kids in an argument that leads to pushing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of the reason is the covert racism, innuendos and microaggressions students are being exposed to by staff members. Over the years I have had numerous parents come and tell me what they have heard when my colleagues have been gossiping in the presence of the parents, thinking the parent is unable to understand English. I have had students both in elementary and middle school tell me what Ms. X was saying Ms. Y about me. All of us get these annual trainings about being tolerant of each other, but when it comes to implementation, the reality is different. In my colleagues' mindset, someone who looks like me and sounds like me should be a building service worker, a secretary or at most a teacher's assistant. This culture is being passed to the students. Not everyone is very strong emotionally. Not every student is strong enough to ignore and look the other way. Some of them are exploding.

Here another example of how some in the society look at everything through lens of race. This is exactly what MCPS leadership is doing as well. They are appeasing a certain group and drag everyone else to the mud.
This discussion is about violence in the school perpetuated by some that impacts staff, teachers and the students who are more academically focused. We need SROs at school and provide support for violent kids outside of school not endangering other kids who just want to learn

Who'll be the educational gatekeepers? Who gets to decide who is "violent"? What about the systematically bullied kid who finally strikes back? Is he "violent"? Or a couple kids in an argument that leads to pushing?

How do they do it today? I'm sure you know kids are currently getting suspended for bad behavior, right? Who do you think is making that decision and why cant that continue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of the reason is the covert racism, innuendos and microaggressions students are being exposed to by staff members. Over the years I have had numerous parents come and tell me what they have heard when my colleagues have been gossiping in the presence of the parents, thinking the parent is unable to understand English. I have had students both in elementary and middle school tell me what Ms. X was saying Ms. Y about me. All of us get these annual trainings about being tolerant of each other, but when it comes to implementation, the reality is different. In my colleagues' mindset, someone who looks like me and sounds like me should be a building service worker, a secretary or at most a teacher's assistant. This culture is being passed to the students. Not everyone is very strong emotionally. Not every student is strong enough to ignore and look the other way. Some of them are exploding.

Here another example of how some in the society look at everything through lens of race. This is exactly what MCPS leadership is doing as well. They are appeasing a certain group and drag everyone else to the mud.
This discussion is about violence in the school perpetuated by some that impacts staff, teachers and the students who are more academically focused. We need SROs at school and provide support for violent kids outside of school not endangering other kids who just want to learn

Who'll be the educational gatekeepers? Who gets to decide who is "violent"? What about the systematically bullied kid who finally strikes back? Is he "violent"? Or a couple kids in an argument that leads to pushing?

How do they do it today? I'm sure you know kids are currently getting suspended for bad behavior, right? Who do you think is making that decision and why cant that continue?

Almost no one gets suspended today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of the reason is the covert racism, innuendos and microaggressions students are being exposed to by staff members. Over the years I have had numerous parents come and tell me what they have heard when my colleagues have been gossiping in the presence of the parents, thinking the parent is unable to understand English. I have had students both in elementary and middle school tell me what Ms. X was saying Ms. Y about me. All of us get these annual trainings about being tolerant of each other, but when it comes to implementation, the reality is different. In my colleagues' mindset, someone who looks like me and sounds like me should be a building service worker, a secretary or at most a teacher's assistant. This culture is being passed to the students. Not everyone is very strong emotionally. Not every student is strong enough to ignore and look the other way. Some of them are exploding.

Here another example of how some in the society look at everything through lens of race. This is exactly what MCPS leadership is doing as well. They are appeasing a certain group and drag everyone else to the mud.
This discussion is about violence in the school perpetuated by some that impacts staff, teachers and the students who are more academically focused. We need SROs at school and provide support for violent kids outside of school not endangering other kids who just want to learn

Who'll be the educational gatekeepers? Who gets to decide who is "violent"? What about the systematically bullied kid who finally strikes back? Is he "violent"? Or a couple kids in an argument that leads to pushing?

How do they do it today? I'm sure you know kids are currently getting suspended for bad behavior, right? Who do you think is making that decision and why cant that continue?

Almost no one gets suspended today.

Except when they do that's not really true but if it makes you feel better to say these things knock yourself out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hmm. So from what I understand, I am pretty pro-no SROs in schools, because the school to prison pipeline is absolutely a real thing, and I went to school myself and as I recall, the presence or absence of SROs made pretty much no difference to student behavior. Like, a group of kids plotting to mug someone for their shoes doesn't stop and go "I don't know guys, Officer Friendly won't be too happy about this!" Like, they already know they're going to get caught, or would if they were thinking about consequences whatsoever, and don't care. I really doubt the recent incidents are because of the removal of SROs.

However, kids should absolutely not have to fear being violently assaulted, not to mention be expected to keep going to school with their attackers. I feel sure that people more educated than me on these topics have come to some conclusions about how to handle the problem of educating violent students. Deciding they are lost causes that belong in jail at 16 is wrong, but letting them continue to prey on other kids is not acceptable. SROs aren't bodyguards and can't fix this, but what can?

There is no school-to-prison pipeline. There is a shittyparent-to-prison pipeline.

However, it's impossible to deny that right-wingers posting here are working hard to create a school-to-prison pipeline.