WDYD with a teen party with alcohol?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Serious question for parents of older kids (I have toddlers): are teenagers really driving drunk? I would have thought Uber had significantly curtailed this. There are, of course, other risks from teens drinking at parties, but I'm wondering about this one specifically.


Kids are not drinking and driving because they do you Uber. Some parents have their head so far in the sand that their kids are afraid to take an Uber and admit that they have been drinking.


This is not universally true.


Nothing is universally true. Statistically significant though.


Ok, what are those stats?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am truly interested in what kind of high school experience the call the police posters had. We drank all the time, went to top DC schools, went to great colleges, and were generally fine. We were drinking beer and, back then, smoking cigarettes. We weren't doing anything too crazy.

Did these posters not go to parties, and assume parties involved cocaine and sex trafficking or something? This level of outrage is such an extreme take on normal teen behavior. You have to teach your kid how to exist in the world. It's not your job to shut down teenage activity as a general matter.


My class buried 4 classmates in one year due to drinking and driving. Different accidents.


In DC? Top school? Professional parents? I doubt it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Serious question for parents of older kids (I have toddlers): are teenagers really driving drunk? I would have thought Uber had significantly curtailed this. There are, of course, other risks from teens drinking at parties, but I'm wondering about this one specifically.


Kids are not drinking and driving because they do you Uber. Some parents have their head so far in the sand that their kids are afraid to take an Uber and admit that they have been drinking.


This is not universally true.


Nothing is universally true. Statistically significant though.


Ok, what are those stats?


Fatal drunk driving accidents;
1980: 28,000
1997: 16,000
2019: 10,000

In 2019 2,000 were teens. 1,000 died prom/graduation/homecoming (60% had no seatbelt)

10 percent of teenage driver deaths were the result of distracted driving. Drunk drivers account for 12 percent of the total driver fatalities in the 16-20 age group, a decrease from 16 percent in 2015.


1500 die of suicide


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:How old are you parents? do you not remember the death of a Whitman senior from drinking in Dec. 2017?



One kid dying from drinking is terrible. But its a pretty small statistic. Kids die from many different causes all.the time. I would never call the police on a party.


Half your children dying before graduating is not a small statistic to his family. How completely sociopathic you are.


Having children arrested is sociopathic


learn to read - the cops do not arrest, they caution and send home
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am truly interested in what kind of high school experience the call the police posters had. We drank all the time, went to top DC schools, went to great colleges, and were generally fine. We were drinking beer and, back then, smoking cigarettes. We weren't doing anything too crazy.

Did these posters not go to parties, and assume parties involved cocaine and sex trafficking or something? This level of outrage is such an extreme take on normal teen behavior. You have to teach your kid how to exist in the world. It's not your job to shut down teenage activity as a general matter.


My class buried 4 classmates in one year due to drinking and driving. Different accidents.


In DC? Top school? Professional parents? I doubt it.


Oh you are very silly indeed. It is the riches with the cars who have the accidents, not the doors who take the buses and walk.
I'm a different pp but I grew up in a very wealthy part of Greenwich Ct, far fancier than Bethesda. There were at least 4 fatalities per year because of drink at with high school aged kids - both private and public schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How old are you parents? do you not remember the death of a Whitman senior from drinking in Dec. 2017?



One kid dying from drinking is terrible. But its a pretty small statistic. Kids die from many different causes all.the time. I would never call the police on a party.


Half your children dying before graduating is not a small statistic to his family. How completely sociopathic you are.


Having children arrested is sociopathic


learn to read - the cops do not arrest, they caution and send home


No. They write them a citation, they must appear in court and it goes on their record. They have to
Appear in court, hire a lawyer and go through alcohol counseling.

Unless you are willing to do all that to your own child when they drink leave other people’s kids alone.
Anonymous
Call all the parents of kids that you know contacts for including that of the hosting kid. If you do now know phone number and cannot get them through your child, try FB messaging if you can contact that way. I am not camp call the cops since I think that can escalate in unknown ways but I am camp call parents. Calling cops can also stop kids from leaving in a safe manner as they flee. You can contact parents after the fact to try and prevent the issue from happening again. Write am old fashioned letter to the address of the party. You can also alert the high school that they need some extra drunk driving prevention education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am truly interested in what kind of high school experience the call the police posters had. We drank all the time, went to top DC schools, went to great colleges, and were generally fine. We were drinking beer and, back then, smoking cigarettes. We weren't doing anything too crazy.

Did these posters not go to parties, and assume parties involved cocaine and sex trafficking or something? This level of outrage is such an extreme take on normal teen behavior. You have to teach your kid how to exist in the world. It's not your job to shut down teenage activity as a general matter.


My class buried 4 classmates in one year due to drinking and driving. Different accidents.


In DC? Top school? Professional parents? I doubt it.


Oh you are very silly indeed. It is the riches with the cars who have the accidents, not the doors who take the buses and walk.
I'm a different pp but I grew up in a very wealthy part of Greenwich Ct, far fancier than Bethesda. There were at least 4 fatalities per year because of drink at with high school aged kids - both private and public schools.


Spoiled rich kids in CT are not the same as the more nerdy kids I went to a top DC school with. There were guardrails on our high school behavior. We all studied hard and went to top colleges. We weren’t driving around in Ferraris doing lines. We drank some, but it wasn’t like some drunk driving bonanza because our parents expected a lot of us, and we knew we had a lot to lose. If you think kids in American suburbs are taking the bus to parties, you really are out of touch, btw. No one even did that in DC back in the old days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Serious question for parents of older kids (I have toddlers): are teenagers really driving drunk? I would have thought Uber had significantly curtailed this. There are, of course, other risks from teens drinking at parties, but I'm wondering about this one specifically.
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I think mine that is now in college did not. If you have a good relationship with them, you’ll know when they are drinking. They ask for a ride instead of driving, get a ride with a friend but have you pick them up or take Uber. I’m always careful not to complain about these pick-ups but my DD wasn’t a frequent partier.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How old are you parents? do you not remember the death of a Whitman senior from drinking in Dec. 2017?



One kid dying from drinking is terrible. But its a pretty small statistic. Kids die from many different causes all.the time. I would never call the police on a party.


Half your children dying before graduating is not a small statistic to his family. How completely sociopathic you are.


Having children arrested is sociopathic


learn to read - the cops do not arrest, they caution and send home


No. They write them a citation, they must appear in court and it goes on their record. They have to
Appear in court, hire a lawyer and go through alcohol counseling.

Unless you are willing to do all that to your own child when they drink leave other people’s kids alone.


Not their permanent record! That's right, not their permanent record, at least, if they're minors. I'm sorry you don't believe your child should experience consequences of their actions. I'm sorry we, as a society, have to suffer because of enablers like you.
Anonymous
I would call the cops on the underage drink fest. These young people do stupid things under the influence of alcohol. Even if they are not killing themselves driving drunk they are making really poor hormonally driven choices which can lead to date rape and other bad things.
Anonymous
OP, if a different parent had picked up their kid first and your kid was still there, would you want that parent to have called the cops on your kid?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Call all the parents of kids that you know contacts for including that of the hosting kid. If you do now know phone number and cannot get them through your child, try FB messaging if you can contact that way. I am not camp call the cops since I think that can escalate in unknown ways but I am camp call parents. Calling cops can also stop kids from leaving in a safe manner as they flee. You can contact parents after the fact to try and prevent the issue from happening again. Write am old fashioned letter to the address of the party. You can also alert the high school that they need some extra drunk driving prevention education.


Do not do that!! That is social suicide for your child. Please do not. Leave it alone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How old are you parents? do you not remember the death of a Whitman senior from drinking in Dec. 2017?



One kid dying from drinking is terrible. But its a pretty small statistic. Kids die from many different causes all.the time. I would never call the police on a party.


Half your children dying before graduating is not a small statistic to his family. How completely sociopathic you are.


Having children arrested is sociopathic


learn to read - the cops do not arrest, they caution and send home


No. They write them a citation, they must appear in court and it goes on their record. They have to
Appear in court, hire a lawyer and go through alcohol counseling.

Unless you are willing to do all that to your own child when they drink leave other people’s kids alone.


Not their permanent record! That's right, not their permanent record, at least, if they're minors. I'm sorry you don't believe your child should experience consequences of their actions. I'm sorry we, as a society, have to suffer because of enablers like you.


I’m sorry you live in such a bubble that you think everybody has $3000 for a lawyer. Oh the little rich kids get off and the momma who brought her daughter home and hid her away while the cops write citations to her friends.

Call the parents, see she won’t do that because her daughter would actually have consequences because her friends will know she’s a rat.

Anything to protect her little girl.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would call the cops on the underage drink fest. These young people do stupid things under the influence of alcohol. Even if they are not killing themselves driving drunk they are making really poor hormonally driven choices which can lead to date rape and other bad things.


So you call the cops and wait there with your child to get the same consequences?
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