Court: TJ's New Admission Policy Does Not Discriminate

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

NBA takes players from all over the world. Should TJ accept students from all over the world?

Not only that, but TJ is sponsored with tax dollars. Not the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

NBA takes players from all over the world. Should TJ accept students from all over the world?

Which is why recently white dudes are more and more entering into nba

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Those are private enterprises whose job is to make money. There is no comparison whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

[Anonymous]

why admitting dumb students to TJ is good for the public interest? how do you measure the "inherent value of experiential diversity"?

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Do you have any evidence to support these statements? Of course, not.

It is easy to make patently false statements given your prejudice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Do you have any evidence to support these statements? Of course, not.

It is easy to make patently false statements given your prejudice.

Yeah . . .PP with the "we can't quibble" garbage. It's just as easy to argue the exact opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

#equity

[Anonymous]

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Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

I think the claim is that there were a lot of unqualified students before who were pushing too hard to keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

It's soooo much better now than before the changes. It's like night and day!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

It's soooo much better now than before the changes. It's like night and day!

it's soooo much better for who? definitely not for those students who can absolutely go to TJ under old merit-based system

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

It's soooo much better now than before the changes. It's like night and day!

This is such a stupid statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

#equity

Are you really that stupid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine a counter lawsuit claiming Black kids are being discriminated against in favor of Asian and White kids. There are real numbers to back that up as TJ is embarrassingly 4% Black even now with changes. It was under 2% Black before the changes. If a school is less than 2% Black in a county with 10% Black population, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with educational opportunity discrimination.

based on this logic, for NBA and NFL, it's obvious there is an issue of justice with sport opportunity discrimination, right?

Somebody just can’t resist using that NBA/NFL talking point over and over again, can they? Even when it’s been explained why it’s a poor analogy- they just love it too much to stop.

Tj and nba are perfect analogy, both of them should be merit based, race blind.

1) They both ARE merit-based and race-blind. There are no students who are getting into TJ right now who don't merit getting into the school. What is happening both at TJ and in other elite academic institutions is that schools are recognizing the inherent value of experiential diversity in the classroom AND the unique meritoriousness of defeating adversity to excel in the classroom. We can quibble over whether or not the new process is perfect (it's not), but we can't quibble about the fact that it's creating a better academic environment within the school.

2) The two shouldn't be compared in the first place because one is a business consisting of 30 franchises whose job is to make money and compete for a championship while the other is a publicly-funded educational opportunity whose job is to inspire bright students to pursue STEM. There is no place in any governing document that requires FCPS to select "the best" students along any axis, nor does TJ exist for the purpose of winning any competitions or even securing a #1 national ranking.

Is there any proof of the bolded statement? Seems like they are switching out academic rigor for diversity, but how does that improve the academic environment?

It's soooo much better now than before the changes. It's like night and day!

it's soooo much better for who? definitely not for those students who can absolutely go to TJ under old merit-based system

“Merit based” or based in who could afford prep from preschool on and could afford to buy the answers to the test?