Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:San Fran declares state of emergency:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-san-francisco-state-of-emergency-us-cases-latest-a9359441.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1OVeFj0Qy2i-gU9VtLSeQOi2OyJ-_HeyV-x3EYN0sXP37A1vGh6p3gOKc#Echobox=1582672145

Interesting conclusion for SF... who let people live and die on their streets, can not see those cases. Must be too close.

There have been not yet been any reported cases of coronavirus in San Francisco. But there have been over 80, 200 confirmed cases — the majority of those in China — worldwide,

It's a political move.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:South Korea now has over 1000 cases.

Latest numbers in put them at 1,146 cases, 11 dead.

So 0.95% death rate. Less than the flu. The nutter who likes to obsess with numbers can use that until we get a better sample.

Seasonal flu has a 0.1% fatality rate, so isn't this 9x more severe than seasonal flu?

Panic super spreader strikes yet again! Hey, you will keep scaring us at this rate you can give yourself panic attack andbe the first person here needing a ventilator

It is not spreading panic to give the facts we know about fatality rates of flu vs. COVID-19.

It is not a service to say this is just like the flu because should an outbreak come here there will be widespread noncompliance with authorities' instructions. Why should the public suspend their social groups, church meetings, concerts etc for just the flu?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The goal is to slow virus until vaccine developed or maybe ramp up ventilators.

Also, antiviral treatment and to flatten the epidemic curve so the medical system doesn't become completely swamped (like it did in Wuhan).

Again, it's CHINA.

[Anonymous]

The doctors that died in China were YOUNG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The goal is to slow virus until vaccine developed or maybe ramp up ventilators.

Also, antiviral treatment and to flatten the epidemic curve so the medical system doesn't become completely swamped (like it did in Wuhan).

Again, it's CHINA.

No--it's because Wuhan was the first epicenter and the disease spread way faster than they, or perhaps anyone, could have anticipated, flooding the system. Containment measures were taken in other cities fairly rapidly to avoid a repeat of Wuhan. The curve has been a lot flatter outside of Hubei.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The goal is to slow virus until vaccine developed or maybe ramp up ventilators.

Also, antiviral treatment and to flatten the epidemic curve so the medical system doesn't become completely swamped (like it did in Wuhan).

Again, it's CHINA.

No--it's because Wuhan was the first epicenter and the disease spread way faster than they, or perhaps anyone, could have anticipated, flooding the system. Containment measures were taken in other cities fairly rapidly to avoid a repeat of Wuhan. The curve has been a lot flatter outside of Hubei.

My niece studied in China twice as a pharmacist. What she told me was appalling about the hospitals, the equipment, the conditions, etc. I repeat - IT'S CHINA. Overcrowded, people doing and eating disgusting things, inadequate care, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:South Korea now has over 1000 cases.

Latest numbers in put them at 1,146 cases, 11 dead.

So 0.95% death rate. Less than the flu. The nutter who likes to obsess with numbers can use that until we get a better sample.

Seasonal flu has a 0.1% fatality rate, so isn't this 9x more severe than seasonal flu?

Panic super spreader strikes yet again! Hey, you will keep scaring us at this rate you can give yourself panic attack andbe the first person here needing a ventilator

It is not spreading panic to give the facts we know about fatality rates of flu vs. COVID-19.

It is not a service to say this is just like the flu because should an outbreak come here there will be widespread noncompliance with authorities' instructions. Why should the public suspend their social groups, church meetings, concerts etc for just the flu?

To give facts can be or not panic spreading depending on context. Posting here the same data over and over and over again with intent to intimidate, while we get it, it is serious, we are preparing. Your data is inconclusive since nobody has verified nothing. What is the purpose to ponder how many times it is more serious then flu since we dont know yet for sure. Do you?
You like facts and numbers, here are some facts and numbers fot you...

Flu killed 80 000 people last year. That is about 7000 people a month.
Coronavirus killed what...2700 in two months ... that is 1350 cases per month... SO FAR! and it had ideal breeding grounds, not doing as impressive out of China. So you say it is more deadly then the flu. I say no, based on your fave numbers.

[Anonymous]

Is anyone else concerned about sending the kids to summer camp?

[Anonymous]

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Can you please point out statistics this year of pneumonia cases compared to last year? Hospitals overflowing with patients? Really?

I definitely expect to see hospitals in the US overflowing with patients with severe pneumonia within another 4-6 weeks. Yes, I do. And clearly the CDC does as well.. unless mitigation measures are taken.

No, it isn't happening yet.

I don't really know what more to say to you. This is what happens with a pandemic. It isn't a problem... until it is . But the thing is, the only time you can prevent a problem from happening is BEFORE it becomes obvious that there is a problem.

If you wait until it actually *is* a problem... it is too late to mitigate.

If you don't understand this, I don't know how to help you any more than that.

[Anonymous]

I do wish the other countries were reporting numbers in a more comphrensible way—eg, X known exposures, Y infected, Z requiring hospitalization (including agr spread); A requiring vent, B dead. We’re getting to the point that we are starting to have comprehensible numbers outside of china.

If we use the numbers floated of 20% infected and 2% fatality for those infected, that would be 3 deaths just at my kid’s elementary school. I can’t imagine how awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The doctors that died in China were YOUNG.

How many? Two were young? Were they smokers? Underlying asthma or other conditions?

You are jumping to conclusions based on limited data.

[Anonymous]

Wash your hands
Don’t touch your face
Stay 6 feet distance
No Peace be with you handshake at Church
No Handshakes
Sneeze into elbow
Cover cough
Wash hands

[Anonymous]

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So how many ventilations do we need? Where did you get that #? Super reliable data, right?

The problem isn't the lack of ventilators per se although certainly at least tripling them would be great.

The problem is lack of ICU beds and staff as well.

Where are you getting the numbers for # of needed ICU beds, etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The doctors that died in China were YOUNG.

How many? Two were young? Were they smokers? Underlying asthma or other conditions?

You are jumping to conclusions based on limited data.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wash your hands
Don’t touch your face
Stay 6 feet distance
No Peace be with you handshake at Church
No Handshakes
Sneeze into elbow
Cover cough
Wash hands

And stop obsessively posting misleading numbers.