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Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA
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Anonymous
They should try to give them blood plasma from those who recovered, it works in China, critical cases improved qickly and recovered.WHO confirmed as valid cure and way. |
Anonymous
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First presumptive case in South America.
A Brazilian man from Sao Paulo recently returned from a two-week stay in northern Italy. A second test is being run to confirm. |
Anonymous
Whoooooooooooo HOLD YOUR HORSES!!! Scaring people much? Where did you learn to push BS like that? You expect 100 000 cases in 500 00 DC? Wuhan is 11 000 000 city and has what.. 75 000 cases. Per your “logication” and your 1/5 sick rate they need to have 2 200 000 cases total to meet your guota. |
Anonymous
Look, no one knows exactly how it will play out but it’s stupid to minimize the risks/ridicule preparations. Also it’s impossible to extrapolate from wuhan as there’s no way the restrictive measures in place would work here. |
Anonymous
They have been quarantined by the military. And likely underreport. |
Anonymous
I don't know the answer but is it hitting the young adults and children? Maybe it's just not being reported but the kids seem to have been spared. |
Anonymous
Not exactly fair to our elderly people, or people with diabetes who need to show up at work. Or anyone else who has "health issues" (which is pretty much anyone over the age of sixty). |
Anonymous
They also kept it secret until it was everywhere. Heavy smokers. Have problem with testing. Kept changing testing rules. Hospitals were crawling with people waiting in miles of line giving it to each other. Hubei province has 75 000 cases while other provinces have only single or double digits but no more then one thousand. |
Anonymous
No one said you take strong containment measures to wait for an antiviral. You take strong containment measures to slow down the spread, i.e., to flatten the curve, so that there are resources available to treat those who get sick. That way you can have a steady supply of hospital beds that you wouldn't have if you have huge waves of people all getting sick and needing hospital care at the same time. Also, around 5% need ICU care with ventilators. ICU beds are far fewer than regular beds, ventilators are a somewhat scarce commodity, and nurses specialized in this type of care also are not plentiful. If the curve is flattened you get smaller groups of people needing this type of care over a longer period of time but you do not overwhelm the health system with a huge surge happening in all in the same short period of time. If you want your elderly loved ones who catch this disease to have a chance at survival, you want the curve flattened. By the way, we already have antivirals that China and others have experimented with and for which they have had positive responses. We don't need to wait for the development of some other antivirals; there are known ways to treat this disease even though we hope the world gets better at it. |
Anonymous
You don't really need to argue much about China's numbers. I don't know what the DC hospital numbers are, but on average in the US hospitals have about 25 ventilators per 100,000 population. Go nuts and say the DC area has 100,000 people and 50 ventilators. If 5,000 of them need a ventilator, evern spread out over 8 weeks... there won't be enough ventilators. Even if only 1,000 needed a ventilator... 100 each week... there wouldn't be enough. Only half would get treatment. And that's not taking into account that people who get severely ill with this are in the hospital for 3-4 weeks. That's why people are freaking out about the number of ventilators in this country. This is completely a known problem. There's a limit to how many ventilators we have, and you need people trained to use them. And willing to use them. And not sick themselves with coronavirus. There's a reason people have been worried about this disease spreading. People who keeps saying "It's just like the flu and you don't worry about the flu" don't really know what they are talking about. Here's a link to some data -- it was for a hypothetical exercise but the data should be accurate: http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events/2018_clade_x_exercise/pdfs/Clade-X-ventilator-availability-fact-sheet.pdf |
Anonymous
Without community mitigation, those numbers are accurate. But of course once people start getting sick and dying, schools get closed which slows spread tremendously. Large gatherings are cancelled. People stop taking trips. That slows spread, but eventually yes all those people should come down with the illness eventually. Unless there is a vaccine. |
Anonymous
That should be DC area has 500,000 people and 250 ventilators (let's say) How many would they need each week, if the first group to get severely ill needs a ventilator for 2 weeks or three weeks? How many patients can be treated each month? |
Anonymous
You keep speculating about ventilators without any verified data and you are just scaring people. |
Anonymous
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South Korea now has over 1000 cases.
Latest numbers in put them at 1,146 cases, 11 dead. |
Anonymous
+1 And annoying people who realize your numbers are BS. |