Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:I'm intensely curious what the Prime Minister of the entire United Kingdom is going to say to defend the royal trash heap.

Also by the time this thread ends, we might not have a British monarchy left.

You really think those twits can bring down the British monarchy. One word from Charles and the paternity text showing the identity of Harry’s father is released. They kept it under wraps to preserve the monarchy but if the monarchy goes, so does Harry

Don’t get too excited. Boris Johnson has been essentially said no comment.

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Anonymous wrote:I find this interesting:

"I guess the highlight for me is sticking him on the back of a bicycle in his little baby seat and taking him on bike rides which is something I was never able to do when I was young" - Prince Harry





And this...

Yes, thank you! I was wondering why I see no media fact checkers on this stuff today.

Media knows DCUM is on the case.

At your service . I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know what's been covered but I can do many more - the titles and the Letters Patent, Charles' plan to slim down the monarchy which he's been talking about since the 90s, how the taxpayers pay for security, the British media coming out in droves to say that Buckingham Palace has shut down many, many stories about M&H (some of them because they weren't true, some that were true), etc. etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dear dcumers, you are so totally naive and blind.
Here is what is happening here, and it is plain and simple.

Harry blames the RBF for his mother's death, and before that, he blames them for how it was handled. He blames his dad and his grandma for all of it.
And they are to blame!
He is out for revenge, and he is taking them down.
You know the same way most of the dcum cuts off their parents and families cause they are toxic? Stop being hypocrites here; BRF is toxic; if they were your family, you would cut them off.
Also, it seems that Harry is not a spineless twit, regardless of what he might sound like. He is out for blood and blood he is getting. Why should he and Meghan take it quietly and be a good sport about it? Think about it, they crucified his mother, and for what? For wanting to have a real marriage and not turning a blind eye? Watch the documentary on Disney+, in her own words. What was done to Diana is nothing short of criminal behavior.
I, for one, am proud of him.

Diana was too damaged to have a real marriage. When your mum ditches you for a polo player and moves thousands of miles away, you will never have a normal relationship. They should have sent Diana to a shrink before they checked to see if her hymen was intact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

There is a difference between what Americans "know" about the Royals - even those who follow the Royals - and the protocols and internal procedures that govern within the Royal family. You don't fully know how it's going to be until you're in it. For example, I thought her point about being surprised at having to curtsy to the Queen in private is understandable.

It seems like the crux of the disagreement is that Harry's family, when presented with the opportunity to act as his family, instead fell back on Royal protocol and the Institution and that was very hurtful to him. I can sort of see his point. The press was attacking Meghan and all sorts of racial issues were surfacing which put things in a different light than the typical bad press that other members of the family had received. His family refused to defend them and refused to provide security for Archie. That may be protocol, but his point seemed to be that circumstances warranted a change from the protocol and his family refused. Instead of being treated like Harry, a loved member of the family and the son of Princess Diana and the future King who was concerned about his wife and son's well-being in part due to the actions, or lack thereof, of his family vis-a-vis the press, he was treated at arms-length. Then, once he stepped down, he was denied his own security detail and his father cut him off.

I imagine that chain of events would be really hurtful to most people who have been led to believe that they are an important and valued member of a "family."

Quoting this because this is very well said, and how anyone (on DCUM or otherwise) can argue that they wouldn't have done the same in this situation is truly mind-blowing. Using the example in this thread of Kate vs Meghan in the press... it's not about what the press said, it's about the response (or lack thereof) from the family.

You and Meghan must have missed that little media clip above where the Palace DID, in fact, respond.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

Humor, especially around color, is gone, banned from American society. There is no humor anymore.

Pro tip. It was never funny to some of us. We just were guilted/dismissed/threatened to keep our mouths shut

To be fair, all humor seems to be dead. Out of curiosity, what is funny to you? Do you laugh ever? Can you make fun of yourself? I’ve been called pasty white and told that I look ugly like a ghost, why is my face so pale? This coming from person of color. I laughed it off.

So many things are funny to me. And I'm pretty darn funny. Often told I'm the funniest person folks know. I've even been told that others I've discussed/depicted aren't as funny as I made them seem when discussing them. So, I'd say- a strong PhD in funny. And the other compliment I've been paid is 'I can take it as well as I dish it out.'
Congrats on the specific racial incidents to recount and laugh off (as there were so few). I've certainly lost count.

Do you really believe that pale, almost albino, individuals aren’t ostracized? Believe me, I would rather have MM’s complexion than mine. I am freakishly white and am reminded of it daily. It’s not attractive.

The fact that you think my being black and your being pale is analogous is telling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will Harry (6th in line) single handedly end the monarchy?

I'm convinced Kate and William are going to have a 4th child after this interview to push him down to #7

But the real question is will they teach their fourth baby to be as racist as they are? Only time will tell...

They can't. Royal babies cost too much money. There were already questions when they had a 3rd. Take a look at all the other royals - the Queen's children only have 2 a piece and the Queen's grandchildren only have 2 a piece (except Kate).

You think that's a coincidence? Some magical combination of infertility and only liking two kids that affected 12 different couples?

According to other posters Kate should get a job to pay for their security and stop being an entitled bitch.

Kate is a working member of the BRF. Meghan is not. See the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is going to be unhappy until he reconciles with his family which may be out of the question now. It’s going to be ugly. I’m not sure I can make sense out of Meghan’s claims that she had no idea what the royal family was like. It’s pretty unbelievable.

You thought she should know that they would confiscate her passport and drivers license and not let her go to lunch without permission?

I thought she should know that yes you curtsy to the queen and that you give up a lot of personal freedoms, absolutely.

Her claim that she thought it was just going to be like normal in meeting a boyfriend’s grandmother is laughable, also that she never googled anything about the royal family prior to/while dating Harry. It diminishes some of her credibility for the more serious allegations.

What exactly is she supposed to google? She’d get back a bunch of tabloid BS. Is there some mysterious book of royal traditions she should know about? Diana was constantly vilified for breaking protocol in a daily basis. Megan was never going to win.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel disappointed in Kate?

I know it's silly but I've always been a big fan of hers. She seemed like a nice, normal person who just happened to be so pretty that she caught the eye of a prince. She also didn't seem that into the job, like she married him because she loves him not because she wants to be queen that badly.

This news that she didn't stand up for Meghan, that she didn't issue a correction of what really happened with Meghan at the dress fitting, that she is married to a racist who questions the skin color of his nephew, etc.

It's really disappointing. I feel like I can't be a fan anymore.

I noticed this. I now have a dislike for her because of it. She should have done more. Vocally

She wouldn't even have had to say anything or speak to the press. She could have just gone out to lunch with Meghan somewhere they'd be seen right after the news broke. It would have sent a message that the story was a nonissue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel disappointed in Kate?

I know it's silly but I've always been a big fan of hers. She seemed like a nice, normal person who just happened to be so pretty that she caught the eye of a prince. She also didn't seem that into the job, like she married him because she loves him not because she wants to be queen that badly.

This news that she didn't stand up for Meghan, that she didn't issue a correction of what really happened with Meghan at the dress fitting, that she is married to a racist who questions the skin color of his nephew, etc.

It's really disappointing. I feel like I can't be a fan anymore.

I used to really like her. She made William more likeable too. However, ever since the wedding, I’ve started having second thoughts. That image of Kate and William laughing at the black minister is hard to forget. After that her silence has stood out the most. Kate an William never said anything in defense of their new family member. Not when they were demonized in the media, not when Kate’s behavior was attributed to Meghan, not even when the tabloids attacked Archie. Her silence has been deafening — especially considering how much Harry supported her in difficult times with Will.

I guess I’ve been disappointed in her for awhile. The nice normal persona seems mikes away from her behavior the past few years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel disappointed in Kate?

I know it's silly but I've always been a big fan of hers. She seemed like a nice, normal person who just happened to be so pretty that she caught the eye of a prince. She also didn't seem that into the job, like she married him because she loves him not because she wants to be queen that badly.

This news that she didn't stand up for Meghan, that she didn't issue a correction of what really happened with Meghan at the dress fitting, that she is married to a racist who questions the skin color of his nephew, etc.

It's really disappointing. I feel like I can't be a fan anymore.

I noticed this. I now have a dislike for her because of it. She should have done more. Vocally

She wouldn't even have had to say anything or speak to the press. She could have just gone out to lunch with Meghan somewhere they'd be seen right after the news broke. It would have sent a message that the story was a nonissue.

Exactly!

[Anonymous]

The black pastor Meghan and Harry immediately clarified was Charles’ choice and not theirs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

Harry is the one who perceived it as offensive. Meghan only heard it second hand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone feel disappointed in Kate?

I know it's silly but I've always been a big fan of hers. She seemed like a nice, normal person who just happened to be so pretty that she caught the eye of a prince. She also didn't seem that into the job, like she married him because she loves him not because she wants to be queen that badly.

This news that she didn't stand up for Meghan, that she didn't issue a correction of what really happened with Meghan at the dress fitting, that she is married to a racist who questions the skin color of his nephew, etc.

It's really disappointing. I feel like I can't be a fan anymore.

I used to really like her. She made William more likeable too. However, ever since the wedding, I’ve started having second thoughts. That image of Kate and William laughing at the black minister is hard to forget. After that her silence has stood out the most. Kate an William never said anything in defense of their new family member. Not when they were demonized in the media, not when Kate’s behavior was attributed to Meghan, not even when the tabloids attacked Archie. Her silence has been deafening — especially considering how much Harry supported her in difficult times with Will.

I guess I’ve been disappointed in her for awhile. The nice normal persona seems mikes away from her behavior the past few years.

As posted above, so much of what's been said was lies. And there are three sides to every store - Meghan and Harry's truth, the Royal Family's truth, and the real truth. Maybe Meghan was an absolute b*tch to Kate. Maybe Kate was an absolute b*tch to Meghan. We'll never know because so far, we've only heard one of the three sides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find this interesting:

"I guess the highlight for me is sticking him on the back of a bicycle in his little baby seat and taking him on bike rides which is something I was never able to do when I was young" - Prince Harry





And this...

Yes, thank you! I was wondering why I see no media fact checkers on this stuff today.

Media knows DCUM is on the case.

At your service . I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know what's been covered but I can do many more - the titles and the Letters Patent, Charles' plan to slim down the monarchy which he's been talking about since the 90s, how the taxpayers pay for security, the British media coming out in droves to say that Buckingham Palace has shut down many, many stories about M&H (some of them because they weren't true, some that were true), etc. etc.

Thank you! The commonwealth should be outraged that she wants them to foot the bill for security but refused to work for them.

[Anonymous]

While I'm firmly pro Meghan, I sat on my peloton this morning and pondered the other side. I'll concede this much:

1. MM can't say she didn't make Kate cry because she doesn't know. If Kate was embarrassed enough to apologize, etc, she likely did cry. People cry, especially when they are hormonal and Kate had just given birth. She was probably exhausted too.

2. MM was trying to be helpful by helping the BRF connect with minorities. But if the BRF doesn't know how they come off, they might have found that suggestion offensive.

3. Americans are much more expressive than Brits and this may have caused them to dismiss her pleas for help as insincere.

4. Americans are raised to think that people can't mistreat us without our permission. This means that if we are being treated poorly we feel like we have to stick up for ourselves. That is the opposite of what the BRF expected from her. Loyalty is expressed differently.

5. At the end of the day, she joined an old monarchy. They won't change just because the world has changed. In fact they have a vested interest in maintaining the illusion that they are superior people. Meghan, a black American... this wasn't going to end well because people are who they are and are raised to see things a certain way. Racism is an inherent part of their power so why would they seek to be accessible to black Commonwealth subjects? It would undermine their power to do so, in their minds.