This Is Us, Season 4

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.

Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.

I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.

Of course they will. Look at how they made us believe that Randall and Beth didn't make it last season.

Please help me remember the scene in flash forward where Rebecca is probably dying and it shoes Beth in a fancy dance studio. Wasn’t something said in that scene that implied she and Randall were no longer together or am I totally making this up?

Before we ever saw Rebecca in the flash forward, we had only seen Beth alone in a dance studio, and Tess and Randall going to see “her.” At the time Randall and Beth were not doing well and fighting over her commitment to dance. I think people assumed (because it was heavily implied), that the “her” was Beth and Randall was not with her. That’s probably what you’re thinking of.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.

Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.

I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.

Of course they will. Look at how they made us believe that Randall and Beth didn't make it last season.

Please help me remember the scene in flash forward where Rebecca is probably dying and it shoes Beth in a fancy dance studio. Wasn’t something said in that scene that implied she and Randall were no longer together or am I totally making this up?

Before we ever saw Rebecca in the flash forward, we had only seen Beth alone in a dance studio, and Tess and Randall going to see “her.” At the time Randall and Beth were not doing well and fighting over her commitment to dance. I think people assumed (because it was heavily implied), that the “her” was Beth and Randall was not with her. That’s probably what you’re thinking of.

That sounds right. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:I related so much to Randall this episode. First - I completely agree about the therapist's crappy office. Like, have some pride lady.
Secondly, I have always felt pressure (often self-subscribed) to manage everything in my family and to be the responsible one. It's been that way since I was about 13. I don't get anxiety like Randall, but I definitely have felt like my family would fall apart without me. I'm in therapy now and one of the things that she's helped me see was that I am not the center of everything and I am not responsible for everything. Slowly I'm making progress which has definitely relieved some of my stress.

Man, I love this show.

Agree. And when my dad had dementia no one in my family saw it. they said that my dad was only trying to get attention from me. man, was I angry. and my mom would make comments about how being with my sister was more fun than with me b/c I would only focus on what needed to get done. it took me about 10 years later and after my dad's death to say, "fine, have it your way and the fun people can start taking care of your affairs. buh-bye"

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Why did they hide the therapist's face until he end? And what were we supposed to think about her knowing Randall's birth story from his speeches? Is that supposed to be weird? I thought Randall was being sensitive to the stimulation in the room, but also that she was kind of weird.

Yeah I didn’t get this AT ALL.

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Why did they hide the therapist's face until he end? And what were we supposed to think about her knowing Randall's birth story from his speeches? Is that supposed to be weird? I thought Randall was being sensitive to the stimulation in the room, but also that she was kind of weird.

Yeah I didn’t get this AT ALL.

I think it meant to show Randall's ambivalence about therapy and that he might not commit to continuing. Revealing the therapist was to signify that yes, Randall will have a relationship with this character going forward. So it wasn't really about the therapist, specifically, but the fact of a (doctor/patient) relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:I related so much to Randall this episode. First - I completely agree about the therapist's crappy office. Like, have some pride lady.
Secondly, I have always felt pressure (often self-subscribed) to manage everything in my family and to be the responsible one. It's been that way since I was about 13. I don't get anxiety like Randall, but I definitely have felt like my family would fall apart without me. I'm in therapy now and one of the things that she's helped me see was that I am not the center of everything and I am not responsible for everything. Slowly I'm making progress which has definitely relieved some of my stress.

Man, I love this show.

I am the same way. Holding together my whole family. And a therapist helped me figure out that I could not shoulder that burden anymore. Unfortunately, my family has pretty much fallen apart. But I realized the cohesion I provided was only really a bandaid, not a cure for their extreme dysfunction. So I had to make my peace.

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Why did they hide the therapist's face until he end? And what were we supposed to think about her knowing Randall's birth story from his speeches? Is that supposed to be weird? I thought Randall was being sensitive to the stimulation in the room, but also that she was kind of weird.

Yeah I didn’t get this AT ALL.

I think it meant to show Randall's ambivalence about therapy and that he might not commit to continuing. Revealing the therapist was to signify that yes, Randall will have a relationship with this character going forward. So it wasn't really about the therapist, specifically, but the fact of a (doctor/patient) relationship.

Agree. It was a very specific choice by the director.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.

Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.

I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.

Of course they will. Look at how they made us believe that Randall and Beth didn't make it last season.

Please help me remember the scene in flash forward where Rebecca is probably dying and it shoes Beth in a fancy dance studio. Wasn’t something said in that scene that implied she and Randall were no longer together or am I totally making this up?

Before we ever saw Rebecca in the flash forward, we had only seen Beth alone in a dance studio, and Tess and Randall going to see “her.” At the time Randall and Beth were not doing well and fighting over her commitment to dance. I think people assumed (because it was heavily implied), that the “her” was Beth and Randall was not with her. That’s probably what you’re thinking of.

I don't think the flash forward with Rebecca in the cabin was the same timeline as adult Jack/singing career/wife/baby. I think Tess is probably mid-20s, so about 12-13 years. Plus, Kevin's kid is about 11-12, right?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.

Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.

I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.

Of course they will. Look at how they made us believe that Randall and Beth didn't make it last season.

Please help me remember the scene in flash forward where Rebecca is probably dying and it shoes Beth in a fancy dance studio. Wasn’t something said in that scene that implied she and Randall were no longer together or am I totally making this up?

Before we ever saw Rebecca in the flash forward, we had only seen Beth alone in a dance studio, and Tess and Randall going to see “her.” At the time Randall and Beth were not doing well and fighting over her commitment to dance. I think people assumed (because it was heavily implied), that the “her” was Beth and Randall was not with her. That’s probably what you’re thinking of.

I don't think the flash forward with Rebecca in the cabin was the same timeline as adult Jack/singing career/wife/baby. I think Tess is probably mid-20s, so about 12-13 years. Plus, Kevin's kid is about 11-12, right?

You're right - Rebecca in the cabin is close to present day (if that exists in this show) - it's the big three's 40th birthday. The Jack singing/Tess timeline is much later. In a way, those timelines don't make sense - at least not for baby Jack. He appears to be in his 20's at least, but if we are all guessing it's 11-12 years later at Rebecca's deathbed, he'd still be a kid. anyway, stupid Super Tuesday interrupting my viewing pleasure.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm wondering if he's going to have a baby with Madison and something happens to her during the delivery and that's how he ends up being a single dad.

Do we know that Kevin was a single dad in the flash forward when everyone was gathering at the house on the hill for Rebecca? I can't remember the details from that episode.

I think it was kind of implied/assumed as there was no mention of a wife or mom, but I don't think the phrase single dad was said.

This show is going to completely tease that along. It's entirely possible that Kate and Madison (assuming Madison is actually the mom) are out doing something or even in another part of the house and it just wasn't mentioned. Until we knew that baby Jack grew up and had a partner I think we could have all assumed that when Toby said, "They're on their way," he was talking about Jack and Kate. Still could, honestly.

Of course they will. Look at how they made us believe that Randall and Beth didn't make it last season.

Please help me remember the scene in flash forward where Rebecca is probably dying and it shoes Beth in a fancy dance studio. Wasn’t something said in that scene that implied she and Randall were no longer together or am I totally making this up?

Before we ever saw Rebecca in the flash forward, we had only seen Beth alone in a dance studio, and Tess and Randall going to see “her.” At the time Randall and Beth were not doing well and fighting over her commitment to dance. I think people assumed (because it was heavily implied), that the “her” was Beth and Randall was not with her. That’s probably what you’re thinking of.

I don't think the flash forward with Rebecca in the cabin was the same timeline as adult Jack/singing career/wife/baby. I think Tess is probably mid-20s, so about 12-13 years. Plus, Kevin's kid is about 11-12, right?

You're right - Rebecca in the cabin is close to present day (if that exists in this show) - it's the big three's 40th birthday. The Jack singing/Tess timeline is much later. In a way, those timelines don't make sense - at least not for baby Jack. He appears to be in his 20's at least, but if we are all guessing it's 11-12 years later at Rebecca's deathbed, he'd still be a kid. anyway, stupid Super Tuesday interrupting my viewing pleasure.

From what the producers have said, the Rebecca dying era is 12-15 years in the future, putting Baby Jack around 13-15 years old, and the timeline where Baby Jack is an adult with a career is another 12-15 years beyond THAT. We currently have three future timelines in play when you include the flash forward to their 40th birthday.

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From what the producers have said, the Rebecca dying era is 12-15 years in the future, putting Baby Jack around 13-15 years old, and the timeline where Baby Jack is an adult with a career is another 12-15 years beyond THAT. We currently have three future timelines in play when you include the flash forward to their 40th birthday.

Wow. That makes sense though. So it seems like Baby Jack is having Thanksgiving at his house then and Big Three would be in their 60's?!?

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What did we learn in the 40th birthday flash forward? Were the brothers not speaking to each other or something? I forget.

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Anonymous wrote:What did we learn in the 40th birthday flash forward? Were the brothers not speaking to each other or something? I forget.

Rebecca asks if Randall is coming and Kevin says no, we're not speaking. Remember mom?

Unclear to me if Kevin meant HE and Randall aren't speaking or Randall isn't speaking to any of them.

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Anonymous wrote:What did we learn in the 40th birthday flash forward? Were the brothers not speaking to each other or something? I forget.

Rebecca asks if Randall is coming and Kevin says no, we're not speaking. Remember mom?

Unclear to me if Kevin meant HE and Randall aren't speaking or Randall isn't speaking to any of them.

Thanks for reminding me!

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New episode last night. It was a good one. Most of the way through it, I was thinking, "Man, I have really come to hate Randall." But I forgave him his insufferability a little bit with that last scene from the fire.

And I love Kevin even more. I love that Rebecca sees all of her children for who they are and appreciate what they each have to offer. I am looking forward to seeing how Rebecca uses the time she has left. Hope we see some backstory with Miguel. He is such a great and so far underused character. It makes sense that the writers would wait until this next chapter to fill him in.