What is the End Game in Ukraine?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will Russia equip and train 300,000 troops. They have lost some much equipment. Unwilling conscripts kill officers and sabotage equipment.

They won't. IMHO, according to 1960's doctrine, I think they're preparing for nuclear war.

"The independent Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta Europe reported that a source in the presidential administration said Russia was seeking to draft more than 1 million people into the army." “All the men, absolutely everyone, was given a draft notice,” said Krieger during an interview with TV Rain from the back of a police van. That included men who had never served in the army, he said, who were now required to appear at their local recruitment centres." "In Buryatia, activists said they didn’t understand why local officials were recruiting so aggressively, with students at local universities receiving draft notices while they were sitting in class." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/russia-mobilisation-ukraine-war-army-drive

If they do that they are dead. All of them are. Seriously we will know before it happens and first strike.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Easy…to enrich Biden’s supporters

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/biden-stops-publishing-military-expenditures-arms-transfers-report/

They’re not publishing arms sales and other defense spending for the first time in decades. Why is that? Is it because we’ve allowed defense companies to make money hands over fist to perpetuate war in Europe?

https://theintercept.com/2022/09/10/ukraine-military-aid-weapons-oversight/

The UK is making money too and why they pressured the Ukraine to go to war despite the fact a peace deal had been reached

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper

No one pressured Ukraine to go to war. Ukraine was invaded by Russia. Russia has also called for the complete elimination of Ukrainian culture and identity. It isn't just an invasion it's an invasion with genocidal intent. The choice for Ukraine was to defend themselves and maybe die or surrender and certainly die. To claim that the UK pressured Ukraine to defend itself is absurd.

But Boris Johnson DID fly to Kiev to discourage peace talks. That's on record.

Russia has never called for the elimination all Ukrainians, that's bull.

Yes it has. Repeatedly and to this day. The invasion even started with a declaration that this was to be the final solution to the Ukrainian question. And yes those words have referenxe the same thing in Russia as the US.

On Russian TV, which is completely controlled by the government, there are nightly calls to commit heinous war crimes against Ukrainians. Mobile crematoriums were one of Russia's necessary military supplies at the beginning of the invasion. Mass graves have repeatedly been found whenever a new town is liberated.

Now maybe you are double using the term Ukrainian. Maybe you are saying that based on our definition of Ukrainian that Russia is only calling for the extermination of some Ukrainians. However that's a word game too far because under the Russian definition of Ukrainian, which simultaneously exists and does not exist, they have repeatedly called for their extermination.

OK. If it's calling for extermination of all Ukrainians, please explain how there are Ukrainians still alive in the occupied territories.

Does that fact that some Jews did not die in the extermination camps prove that the Nazis were not committing genocide?

[Anonymous]

When does it get so cold in Ukraine that fighting becomes impossible?

[Anonymous]

^^ If anyone still thinks this is a joke, you better wake up and smell the vodka.

https://www.today.com/video/putin-warns-west-of-nuclear-retaliation-this-is-not-a-bluff-148921925545

Don't you think Putin knows that this move is something his economy can't fund or supply? That pulling out the men from the outer regions will leave them non-productive for the agrarian economy? That mechanics, doctors, university students are needed to keep the economy going? This move has doomed Russia's economy and will cause long-term, widespread hardship, and the Russian's know it.

If I were to write a Tom Clancy movie script, it would probably go like this:

My guess is that the prisoner swap that involved the Saudi's probably gave Russia hard cash they needed to fund the mobilization? (Why else would Saudi's be involved?)

https://asiatimes.com/2022/09/russia-on-a-desperate-arms-shopping-spree/

My guess is that preparations will take at least 6-weeks, another four to redeploy forces and do dry runs. Call it beginning of November as probably the earliest that something really bad could happen? Maybe over Christmas to make it worse?

If it were me, the FBI needs to round up and arrest all possible foreign agents. Anyone talking them out of it ("no we need to watch them so they can lead us to higher level agents and we can break the whole network") is probably under influence themselves.

I would issue new orders to the U.S. Navy and Air Force and have the President announce that due to Russian nuclear threats, the U.S. must take them seriously. All Russian aircraft are banned from U.S. airspace, and will be treated as having hostile intent (and then make no further public comments or answer press questions - which the Russians will do to probe our actions). This means the U.S. will no longer tolerate airspace violations and any military aircraft or warship approaching within (nuclear weapons range) will be considered a threat to national security and dealt with accordingly.

Yes. There will be intentional provocations, but let's face it - the Russian Government lies anyway.

If the medical reports about Putin are correct, what does he care what happens?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/doctors-called-to-putins-aid-after-coughing-fit-derails-blustery-tv-address-report-says

A rabid dog is a rabid dog. It knows no reason other than violence.

[Anonymous]

No need to have conniptions, 19:52.

The USA, UK and EU take the nuclear threat seriously.

[Anonymous]

This war was the US / NATO’s fault going back to 2014. All of you deniers are shameful idiots. Next time I see a Ukraine flag I’m burning it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This war was the US / NATO’s fault going back to 2014. All of you deniers are shameful idiots. Next time I see a Ukraine flag I’m burning it.

Get bent, Vlad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This war was the US / NATO’s fault going back to 2014. All of you deniers are shameful idiots. Next time I see a Ukraine flag I’m burning it.

Ah yes, let’s blame this on NATO rather than Russian aggression. Amirite, comrade? It’s never the abuser’s fault. Nope. But I imagine you’re a Trumper and probably a wife eater too. They usually go hand and hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When does it get so cold in Ukraine that fighting becomes impossible?

It will not be too cold to fight. The problem is the “mud season” or Rasputitsa will start in a few week. This will stop the fighting till the ground freezes. So sometime in the next few 3-4 week fighting will stop in the northern areas and pick up in late December.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This war was the US / NATO’s fault going back to 2014. All of you deniers are shameful idiots. Next time I see a Ukraine flag I’m burning it.

Bet the Ukraine flag will be flying over Moscow soon enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This war was the US / NATO’s fault going back to 2014. All of you deniers are shameful idiots. Next time I see a Ukraine flag I’m burning it.

Get bent, Vlad.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This war was the US / NATO’s fault going back to 2014. All of you deniers are shameful idiots. Next time I see a Ukraine flag I’m burning it.

Too cowardly to join the army?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When does it get so cold in Ukraine that fighting becomes impossible?

It will not be too cold to fight. The problem is the “mud season” or Rasputitsa will start in a few week. This will stop the fighting till the ground freezes. So sometime in the next few 3-4 week fighting will stop in the northern areas and pick up in late December.

+1. When Hell freezes over. Read up on the great time the Nazis had on the Eastern Front.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:doesn't Putin have any friends that will tell him to give it up? that he has absolutely nothing to fear from the west if he will just stop this stupid war? that there is nothing we would like more than to go back to peace? is it his ego? or does he really believe that we are so war like that we will continue this if he stops?

I hope you're not a U.S. policy-maker, because I don't think you understand the Soviet Cold-War mentality at all.

This video is prophetic to what we're seeing unfold now:
https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3388292/hands-down-the-scariest-video-on-the-internet-kgb-operative-gives-interview-in-1985-about-how-russia-manipulates-american-public-opinion

Why wasn't there more news and reporting about this?
"261 Russian journalists have been killed since the fall of the Soviet Union"
https://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/russian-journalist-murdered-is-russia-s-press-freedom-dead-a-443543.html

But you can reason with the Russian Government, right?
"The essence of my proposition is simple”, says the chairwoman of Parliamentary Commission on Women’s Affairs, Children and Family, Yelena Borisovna Mizoulina. “Each female citizen of Russia will be able to receive by mail the genetic material of the President, get pregnant from him and have a baby. These mothers will be receiving special allowances from the government."
https://observer.com/2014/11/russian-lawmaker-proposes-mailing-putin-sperm-to-impregnate-russian-women/

If you recall Zapad-2021, Putin held war games right on the border of Ukraine before rolling in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapad_2021

A bully picks on those that can't or don't fight back. Even when they get a black eye, the tough ones don't stop because that would make them look weak. They keep going until they can't keep going anymore.

The FBI better start rounding up the knowns and interviewing the suspected. Only by shaking up the network will they begin to see how badly the U.S. has been infiltrated and why the Communist officials are so confident they're superior to the U.S.

I don't know why people keep calling Russia's government Communist when it hasn't been that for a while.

It wasn't even actual Communisim in the USSR, but that is a whole 'nother topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This war was the US / NATO’s fault going back to 2014. All of you deniers are shameful idiots. Next time I see a Ukraine flag I’m burning it.

Russia invades and takes Crimea, but it is NATO's fault.