What is the End Game in Ukraine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia needs to surrender and retreat. They have treated their own military very badly during this war. It would be a shame if that were continue in perpetuity.

“They need to” but they won’t. Russia isn’t running out of petroleum-income, troops, or artillery. How do you make them withdraw?

The short answer is to cripple Russia’s military industrial complex by denying access to technology. You can’t build spy satellites, ships, airplanes, tanks, middles or artillery systems without semiconductors. That applies to manufacturing machinery as well as weapons systems themselves. The same ripple effect debilitates almost every sector of industry, not to mention something like the ISS and Russian space program.

Biden has pushed them together with China and India. It’s a symbiotic relationship to break the dollar as reserve currency. Then WE won’t be able to afford a military industrial complex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't know what the prognosis on the war is. I agree that it's too early to tell. What I do know is that Putin will not be satisfied with Ukraine. He will not stop until Russian soldiers have marched to Brandenberg Gate. So as Americans, we should be thanking the Ukrainian Territorial Defenses on a daily basis for keep us out of a much bigger conflict...Poland will not be far behind if Ukraine falls.

That's nonsense and no you don't KNOW that, this is the line that Ukraine's PR advisors have successfully sold to the West that Ukraine is fighting "on behalf of Europe", and that if Ukraine falls, then "real" Europe will be next. Putin has shown no appetite whatsoever for invading other countries, and he has warned, multiple times and across multiple presidencies, what his red lines were. This war was entirely preventable but NATO decided they will not say they will not do what they know they won't do. Putin has said many many times that NATO should stay out of Georgia and Ukraine. Georgia flirted with NATO and got smacked. Ukraine flirted with NATO and look what happened. NATO has sacrificed so many Ukrainians because it refused to say the truth: that Ukraine has no chance at membership.

Putin has show no appetite for invading other countries? Georgia will disagree. As will Chechnya. Not to
Mention co-opting Belarus and meddling in elections in France and Montenegro, among other places. Oh, and Syria. And shall we include shooting down an commercial airliner?

Chechnya is not a country but I expect nothing better of someone who misspells Brandenburg.

Let's not go head to head on who meddles in elections and invades other countries with gusto, Russia will not win this contest. I'm sure you'll come up with something that says it's all very different and benign when America does it. Tell me, do you pronounce Iraq as Eyerag?

[Anonymous]

Russia will not stop, there is no way to negotiate with it on the territories, it must be defeated. Anybody who doesn’t believe that should have watched their government-controlled TV for the last 2 decades like I did. They are very open and firm with regard to their intentions to invade and destroy as many countries as possible.

At this point, they are running out of manpower because they are currently recruiting prisoners and Moscovites to join the armed forces. Initially they recruited just the residents of the remote and poor areas of Russia but apparently are running out of those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russia will not stop, there is no way to negotiate with it on the territories, it must be defeated. Anybody who doesn’t believe that should have watched their government-controlled TV for the last 2 decades like I did. They are very open and firm with regard to their intentions to invade and destroy as many countries as possible.

At this point, they are running out of manpower because they are currently recruiting prisoners and Moscovites to join the armed forces. Initially they recruited just the residents of the remote and poor areas of Russia but apparently are running out of those.

That's a lie, and you know it. I mean please post one link to a piece from a government-controlled media saying that, since you claim they are "very open and firm" with it. You should have no trouble finding it, no?

You and 1000s other people have voiced the call of gloom and doom for the Russian army that's allegedly tottering on the brink. It has been tottering on the brink ever since lol yet 20% of Ukraine have been lost.

Wake up. Please see the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia will not stop, there is no way to negotiate with it on the territories, it must be defeated. Anybody who doesn’t believe that should have watched their government-controlled TV for the last 2 decades like I did. They are very open and firm with regard to their intentions to invade and destroy as many countries as possible.

At this point, they are running out of manpower because they are currently recruiting prisoners and Moscovites to join the armed forces. Initially they recruited just the residents of the remote and poor areas of Russia but apparently are running out of those.

That's a lie, and you know it. I mean please post one link to a piece from a government-controlled media saying that, since you claim they are "very open and firm" with it. You should have no trouble finding it, no?

You and 1000s other people have voiced the call of gloom and doom for the Russian army that's allegedly tottering on the brink. It has been tottering on the brink ever since lol yet 20% of Ukraine have been lost.

Wake up. Please see the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be.

OMG, I can find 1000 links, just the first random one where they plan to invade Europe, in detail:
https://ne-np.facebook.com/UNIAN.net/videos/%EF%B8%8F-у-соловьева-уже-обсуждают-план-захвата-европы-вызывайте-санитаровподробности-h/697621034625320/

[Anonymous]

Keep in mind, they started recruiting prisoners at the end of July and started actively recruiting Moscovites this month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia will not stop, there is no way to negotiate with it on the territories, it must be defeated. Anybody who doesn’t believe that should have watched their government-controlled TV for the last 2 decades like I did. They are very open and firm with regard to their intentions to invade and destroy as many countries as possible.

At this point, they are running out of manpower because they are currently recruiting prisoners and Moscovites to join the armed forces. Initially they recruited just the residents of the remote and poor areas of Russia but apparently are running out of those.

That's a lie, and you know it. I mean please post one link to a piece from a government-controlled media saying that, since you claim they are "very open and firm" with it. You should have no trouble finding it, no?

You and 1000s other people have voiced the call of gloom and doom for the Russian army that's allegedly tottering on the brink. It has been tottering on the brink ever since lol yet 20% of Ukraine have been lost.

Wake up. Please see the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be.

OMG, I can find 1000 links, just the first random one where they plan to invade Europe, in detail:
https://ne-np.facebook.com/UNIAN.net/videos/%EF%B8%8F-у-соловьева-уже-обсуждают-план-захвата-европы-вызывайте-санитаровподробности-h/697621034625320/

What you posted is an equivalent of Trump talking about Democrat's pro-choice position, a la "they just rip these beautiful little babies apart!"

Post a link to the source, not the Ukrainian retelling of the source with no original inks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, they started recruiting prisoners at the end of July and started actively recruiting Moscovites this month.

Do you think it was Zelensky's idea to switch to camouflage entirely and maintain a 3-day growth? I mean he must have a few dozen of the same type T shirt. Or is it a part of the packaging that he embraced with gusto?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, they started recruiting prisoners at the end of July and started actively recruiting Moscovites this month.

Do you think it was Zelensky's idea to switch to camouflage entirely and maintain a 3-day growth? I mean he must have a few dozen of the same type T shirt. Or is it a part of the packaging that he embraced with gusto?

Dp - wut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia will not stop, there is no way to negotiate with it on the territories, it must be defeated. Anybody who doesn’t believe that should have watched their government-controlled TV for the last 2 decades like I did. They are very open and firm with regard to their intentions to invade and destroy as many countries as possible.

At this point, they are running out of manpower because they are currently recruiting prisoners and Moscovites to join the armed forces. Initially they recruited just the residents of the remote and poor areas of Russia but apparently are running out of those.

That's a lie, and you know it. I mean please post one link to a piece from a government-controlled media saying that, since you claim they are "very open and firm" with it. You should have no trouble finding it, no?

You and 1000s other people have voiced the call of gloom and doom for the Russian army that's allegedly tottering on the brink. It has been tottering on the brink ever since lol yet 20% of Ukraine have been lost.

Wake up. Please see the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be.

OMG, I can find 1000 links, just the first random one where they plan to invade Europe, in detail:
https://ne-np.facebook.com/UNIAN.net/videos/%EF%B8%8F-у-соловьева-уже-обсуждают-план-захвата-европы-вызывайте-санитаровподробности-h/697621034625320/

What you posted is an equivalent of Trump talking about Democrat's pro-choice position, a la "they just rip these beautiful little babies apart!"

Post a link to the source, not the Ukrainian retelling of the source with no original inks.

It’s a video from the main government-owned Russian TV channel. They speak to these matters every day, just turn on their federal TV channel and watch it for an hour or two. You can google or search YouTube and find numerous videos where they dream of invading other countries and “uniting” with Ukraine. People like you should be deported to Russia so that you could fully enjoy Putin’s regime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Russia will not stop, there is no way to negotiate with it on the territories, it must be defeated. Anybody who doesn’t believe that should have watched their government-controlled TV for the last 2 decades like I did. They are very open and firm with regard to their intentions to invade and destroy as many countries as possible.

At this point, they are running out of manpower because they are currently recruiting prisoners and Moscovites to join the armed forces. Initially they recruited just the residents of the remote and poor areas of Russia but apparently are running out of those.

That's a lie, and you know it. I mean please post one link to a piece from a government-controlled media saying that, since you claim they are "very open and firm" with it. You should have no trouble finding it, no?

You and 1000s other people have voiced the call of gloom and doom for the Russian army that's allegedly tottering on the brink. It has been tottering on the brink ever since lol yet 20% of Ukraine have been lost.

Wake up. Please see the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be.

OMG, I can find 1000 links, just the first random one where they plan to invade Europe, in detail:
https://ne-np.facebook.com/UNIAN.net/videos/%EF%B8%8F-у-соловьева-уже-обсуждают-план-захвата-европы-вызывайте-санитаровподробности-h/697621034625320/

What you posted is an equivalent of Trump talking about Democrat's pro-choice position, a la "they just rip these beautiful little babies apart!"

Post a link to the source, not the Ukrainian retelling of the source with no original inks.

It’s a video from the main government-owned Russian TV channel. They speak to these matters every day, just turn on their federal TV channel and watch it for an hour or two. You can google or search YouTube and find numerous videos where they dream of invading other countries and “uniting” with Ukraine. People like you should be deported to Russia so that you could fully enjoy Putin’s regime.

I ask you for an original link and your response is deportation?

You pluralist you, democracy and diversity is your motto, and if anyone speaks against democracy and diversity, let's draw and quarter them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, they started recruiting prisoners at the end of July and started actively recruiting Moscovites this month.

Do you think it was Zelensky's idea to switch to camouflage entirely and maintain a 3-day growth? I mean he must have a few dozen of the same type T shirt. Or is it a part of the packaging that he embraced with gusto?

Dp - wut?

You mean you can't tell a person from a packaged product?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, they started recruiting prisoners at the end of July and started actively recruiting Moscovites this month.

Do you think it was Zelensky's idea to switch to camouflage entirely and maintain a 3-day growth? I mean he must have a few dozen of the same type T shirt. Or is it a part of the packaging that he embraced with gusto?

Dp - wut?

It’s a person who translates to English from Russian using google translate. “Growth” apparently means that he didn’t shave his face for 3 days. Can the admin please report that person and get them deported back to Russia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, they started recruiting prisoners at the end of July and started actively recruiting Moscovites this month.

Do you think it was Zelensky's idea to switch to camouflage entirely and maintain a 3-day growth? I mean he must have a few dozen of the same type T shirt. Or is it a part of the packaging that he embraced with gusto?

Dp - wut?

It’s a person who translates to English from Russian using google translate. “Growth” apparently means that he didn’t shave his face for 3 days. Can the admin please report that person and get them deported back to Russia?

Oh yes, let's not disturb the echo chamber, shall we?

If I had to use google translate, then apparently so did Cold Chisel, and last I heard they were native speakers but hey what do I know?

https://songmeanings.com/songs/view/74202/

[Anonymous]

For the Russian-speaking trolls:
https://youtu.be/eG30GTKsBLE