Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with Harry now is that he's going to become a magnet for fraudsters. Imagine if he goes into business with the next Jho Low/1MDB or he's on the board of the next Theranos.

I hope he has a crack team of lawyers and accountants doing due diligence. He has to be very careful.


I'll also add to this that the BRF were damn fools for not "leaning into" Harry's efforts. He is impulsive and there were very clear signs that he would go independent. Hell, the Firm itself has been saying for years that the BRF would be "slimmed down" to just the core members.

They should've helped him with this off-ramp and been an advising partner. Instead, they foolishly opposed and expect him to live at Frogmore and become the next Prince Andrew.

So shortsighted.


They tried for years. Charles offered Harry all sorts of possibilities. Nothing took.


What kind of possibilities? I'm honestly ignorant of what was offered to him. What are the rumors?
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with Harry now is that he's going to become a magnet for fraudsters. Imagine if he goes into business with the next Jho Low/1MDB or he's on the board of the next Theranos.

I hope he has a crack team of lawyers and accountants doing due diligence. He has to be very careful.


I'll also add to this that the BRF were damn fools for not "leaning into" Harry's efforts. He is impulsive and there were very clear signs that he would go independent. Hell, the Firm itself has been saying for years that the BRF would be "slimmed down" to just the core members.

They should've helped him with this off-ramp and been an advising partner. Instead, they foolishly opposed and expect him to live at Frogmore and become the next Prince Andrew.

So shortsighted.


They tried for years. Charles offered Harry all sorts of possibilities. Nothing took.


And you know this how?
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Anonymous wrote:The problem with Harry now is that he's going to become a magnet for fraudsters. Imagine if he goes into business with the next Jho Low/1MDB or he's on the board of the next Theranos.

I hope he has a crack team of lawyers and accountants doing due diligence. He has to be very careful.


I'll also add to this that the BRF were damn fools for not "leaning into" Harry's efforts. He is impulsive and there were very clear signs that he would go independent. Hell, the Firm itself has been saying for years that the BRF would be "slimmed down" to just the core members.

They should've helped him with this off-ramp and been an advising partner. Instead, they foolishly opposed and expect him to live at Frogmore and become the next Prince Andrew.

So shortsighted.


I don’t think the BRF could agree to any deal that Harry wanted. It would have set a bad precedent. Harry wanted to not be obligated by royal duties but still get all the money, titles, and perks that come with being royal. Once the BRF offers that deal to one person, everyone would want it. It’s all upside for Harry and no downside.
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Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


Why is getting a job debasing or humiliating? The blind item is like, salaciously written but is 90% opinion commentary and pictures of Elon Musk. The only real concrete thing there is that Harry shopped around a bit, and that some companies weren't interested in him. That happens to almost everyone.


It’s debasing because he’s going out with his hand out looking for free money while provide absolutely no relevant skills, experience or value other than his name and title. Perhaps you would be comfortable with that behavior but I can assure you that most professionals would not.


He has notoriety and fame and networking skills. That is extremely valuable to most companies. Companies don't hand out millions of dollars because they feel sorry for an ex Prince, what world are you living in? They pay them because they believe they will make them more money. That is how this country works. No one is doing Harry a solid and setting him up with an office and a few mill just to be nice. What planet are you living on?


I would be profoundly embarrassed if I was his age and had absolutely no marketable skills other than my title which he did nothing to earn. And if you think hustling for connections like some gen Z influencer is a fulfilling professional career that says more about you.


How is hustling for connections or being an influencer less fulfilling than your paper pushing bs job? At least he’s making bank while you’re stuck in the rat race blabbering about how it’s so fulfilling!


Hah.....I see that the dumbs have been triggered.


I'm not the PP, but if someone were to offer me a high paying job where all I had to do was stand around and look pretty, I would dump my CPA career in a hot second. Expire away, license!


Sadly, many people like PP don’t have the looks or talent to make it with minimal effort..which is why she whines on here and pretends to have a fulfilling career.


You know what they say about assuming PP lol.

I actually am very lucky and am happily married to a hot guy and make a good salary (more than 100k) in a low stress job that allows me to spend lots of time with my kids. I am qualified for it and it is work and requires skill and I have worked hard to get where I am but like PP, if someone offered me millions of dollars to attend balls in designer clothing while eating delicious appetizers and sipping whine I would peace out in a half second. You would too and you know it.

It is weird that you are mad at Harry for being in this situation when the only reason he is in it is because of the family he was born into.

It is also weird that you continue to act like he has literally spent his entire life sitting in a palace being served tea. The guy HAS worked extensively with nonprofits and in the fundraising world in addition to serving a distinguished career in the military for a decade. He can fly a helicopter! And like a war helicopter not a 'see the volcano in Hawaii' helicopter. He does have a skillset that is likely very appealing to companies in silicon valley that are dependent on cash infusions from fundraising to get off the ground. I'm not saying he hasn't led a life of extreme privilege, he has, but he has also worked.


Girl you misunderstood. I was agreeing with you! My comment was directed at the stupid PP who was blasting Harry for having no “marketable skills” or “fulfilling career,” as if he were applying to be an IT manager or something. I would totally peace out of my job if I had the money they do and so would PP, but she can’t so she’s on here whining. Most of these angry women on here are jealous, which leads to anger.


Ahh my b I misread Yes we are on the SAME PAGE!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.


Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table.

As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run.

I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking.

Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets?

Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem with Harry now is that he's going to become a magnet for fraudsters. Imagine if he goes into business with the next Jho Low/1MDB or he's on the board of the next Theranos.

I hope he has a crack team of lawyers and accountants doing due diligence. He has to be very careful.


I'll also add to this that the BRF were damn fools for not "leaning into" Harry's efforts. He is impulsive and there were very clear signs that he would go independent. Hell, the Firm itself has been saying for years that the BRF would be "slimmed down" to just the core members.

They should've helped him with this off-ramp and been an advising partner. Instead, they foolishly opposed and expect him to live at Frogmore and become the next Prince Andrew.

So shortsighted.


I don’t think the BRF could agree to any deal that Harry wanted. It would have set a bad precedent. Harry wanted to not be obligated by royal duties but still get all the money, titles, and perks that come with being royal. Once the BRF offers that deal to one person, everyone would want it. It’s all upside for Harry and no downside.


Well what the hell is he supposed to do? I don't see an off-ramp from the BRF other than do charity stuff and beg your father (and then brother) for money for the rest of your life. Which is exactly the existence of Prince Andrew.

The Firm has already indicated that the BRF will be slimmed down moving forward. Which is really code for "We won't be financially supporting you." So he's supposed to do charity stuff, make no money, but simultaneously be pushed out & the money spigot turned off?

Does not compute.

I'm not saying the BRF has to officially endorse Harry's deals or the companies he's involved with. But it would've been good if they were more supportive of his efforts to establish a truly independent life as a working professional. If only out of their own self-interest to ensure he didn't get suckered into rotten deals that would ruin his/the BRF's reputation. They were too stubborn to be pro-active about this, which is a damn shame.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.


Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table.

As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run.

I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking.

Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets?

Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly.


I don’t find Harry and Meghan to be credible either. There’s plenty of evidence that they have been deceptive recently.

You may think Donald Trump Jr can bring millions of dollars of value to a company by just joining a few phone calls, but most reasonable people would disagree. The closer you get to our ruling class, the more you realize they’re all figuring out ways to get paid and to pay each other - including through nepotism, lies, and corruption. Do you think corporate CEOs who get paid hundreds of millions despite substantial decreases in their corporations’ valuation are really worth the hundreds of millions and the subsequent golden parachutes? What often happens is a kind of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” mentality, where even the most incompetent failsons of the elite manage to get their big paydays.

But again, if you’re using a simplistic definition where “worth” equals “what you get paid,” then sure we can agree.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.


Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table.

As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run.

I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking.

Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets?

Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly.


I don’t find Harry and Meghan to be credible either. There’s plenty of evidence that they have been deceptive recently.

You may think Donald Trump Jr can bring millions of dollars of value to a company by just joining a few phone calls, but most reasonable people would disagree. The closer you get to our ruling class, the more you realize they’re all figuring out ways to get paid and to pay each other - including through nepotism, lies, and corruption. Do you think corporate CEOs who get paid hundreds of millions despite substantial decreases in their corporations’ valuation are really worth the hundreds of millions and the subsequent golden parachutes? What often happens is a kind of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” mentality, where even the most incompetent failsons of the elite manage to get their big paydays.

But again, if you’re using a simplistic definition where “worth” equals “what you get paid,” then sure we can agree.


I feel like you are insane. Elizabeth Holmes claimed to have invented a new scientific process that would have revolutionized the medical industry. She built a valuation and fake research in support of this claim and literally sold a fake product to become rich.

Harry, honest or not, is not claiming to have invented anything or to have any tangible product of any kind. Equating them is fallacious and, honestly, inappropriate.

Again, it doesn't matter if reasonable people agree or disagree. The bottom line must be evident to the people writing checks because rich people don't pay other people millions of dollars for no reason. DJTJ may be valuable simply because of his name, and I certainly agree he's a vile toad and wish he was not being paid millions of dollars. But corporate america is not charity case work. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" spells it out. Two people are getting their back scratched!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.


Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table.

As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run.

I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking.

Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets?

Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly.


I don’t find Harry and Meghan to be credible either. There’s plenty of evidence that they have been deceptive recently.

You may think Donald Trump Jr can bring millions of dollars of value to a company by just joining a few phone calls, but most reasonable people would disagree. The closer you get to our ruling class, the more you realize they’re all figuring out ways to get paid and to pay each other - including through nepotism, lies, and corruption. Do you think corporate CEOs who get paid hundreds of millions despite substantial decreases in their corporations’ valuation are really worth the hundreds of millions and the subsequent golden parachutes? What often happens is a kind of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” mentality, where even the most incompetent failsons of the elite manage to get their big paydays.

But again, if you’re using a simplistic definition where “worth” equals “what you get paid,” then sure we can agree.


I feel like you are insane. Elizabeth Holmes claimed to have invented a new scientific process that would have revolutionized the medical industry. She built a valuation and fake research in support of this claim and literally sold a fake product to become rich.

Harry, honest or not, is not claiming to have invented anything or to have any tangible product of any kind. Equating them is fallacious and, honestly, inappropriate.

Again, it doesn't matter if reasonable people agree or disagree. The bottom line must be evident to the people writing checks because rich people don't pay other people millions of dollars for no reason. DJTJ may be valuable simply because of his name, and I certainly agree he's a vile toad and wish he was not being paid millions of dollars. But corporate america is not charity case work. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" spells it out. Two people are getting their back scratched!


Rich people pay each other millions all the time for the flimsiest of reasons! Remember when some rich guy paid a rich artist something like $10 million for a banana duct-taped to a wall? Remember all the Wall Street bankers who got paid hundreds of millions in 2008 despite the fact that they almost bankrupted their employers and helped to destroy the economy? Corporate America is itself a charity case, receiving billions in handouts during economic and global health crises, and the elites, recognizing the value of class solidarity, spread that money around amongst themselves. Elites help each other out to ensure that they all get their paydays, regardless of how much value it might actually bring to shareholders or whatever. Try not to be so naive.

(Also, you might want to look up the meaning of the word “equate.” Not sure you’re sure you’ve quite got a handle on it.)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.


Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table.

As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run.

I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking.

Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets?

Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly.


I don’t find Harry and Meghan to be credible either. There’s plenty of evidence that they have been deceptive recently.

You may think Donald Trump Jr can bring millions of dollars of value to a company by just joining a few phone calls, but most reasonable people would disagree. The closer you get to our ruling class, the more you realize they’re all figuring out ways to get paid and to pay each other - including through nepotism, lies, and corruption. Do you think corporate CEOs who get paid hundreds of millions despite substantial decreases in their corporations’ valuation are really worth the hundreds of millions and the subsequent golden parachutes? What often happens is a kind of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” mentality, where even the most incompetent failsons of the elite manage to get their big paydays.

But again, if you’re using a simplistic definition where “worth” equals “what you get paid,” then sure we can agree.


I feel like you are insane. Elizabeth Holmes claimed to have invented a new scientific process that would have revolutionized the medical industry. She built a valuation and fake research in support of this claim and literally sold a fake product to become rich.

Harry, honest or not, is not claiming to have invented anything or to have any tangible product of any kind. Equating them is fallacious and, honestly, inappropriate.

Again, it doesn't matter if reasonable people agree or disagree. The bottom line must be evident to the people writing checks because rich people don't pay other people millions of dollars for no reason. DJTJ may be valuable simply because of his name, and I certainly agree he's a vile toad and wish he was not being paid millions of dollars. But corporate america is not charity case work. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" spells it out. Two people are getting their back scratched!


Rich people pay each other millions all the time for the flimsiest of reasons! Remember when some rich guy paid a rich artist something like $10 million for a banana duct-taped to a wall? Remember all the Wall Street bankers who got paid hundreds of millions in 2008 despite the fact that they almost bankrupted their employers and helped to destroy the economy? Corporate America is itself a charity case, receiving billions in handouts during economic and global health crises, and the elites, recognizing the value of class solidarity, spread that money around amongst themselves. Elites help each other out to ensure that they all get their paydays, regardless of how much value it might actually bring to shareholders or whatever. Try not to be so naive.

(Also, you might want to look up the meaning of the word “equate.” Not sure you’re sure you’ve quite got a handle on it.)


I kinda feel like you mostly agree with PP but you’re just being pedantic and unnecessarily nasty instead of acknowledging your shared beliefs.
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Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.


Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table.

As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run.

I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking.

Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets?

Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly.


I don’t find Harry and Meghan to be credible either. There’s plenty of evidence that they have been deceptive recently.

You may think Donald Trump Jr can bring millions of dollars of value to a company by just joining a few phone calls, but most reasonable people would disagree. The closer you get to our ruling class, the more you realize they’re all figuring out ways to get paid and to pay each other - including through nepotism, lies, and corruption. Do you think corporate CEOs who get paid hundreds of millions despite substantial decreases in their corporations’ valuation are really worth the hundreds of millions and the subsequent golden parachutes? What often happens is a kind of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” mentality, where even the most incompetent failsons of the elite manage to get their big paydays.

But again, if you’re using a simplistic definition where “worth” equals “what you get paid,” then sure we can agree.


I feel like you are insane. Elizabeth Holmes claimed to have invented a new scientific process that would have revolutionized the medical industry. She built a valuation and fake research in support of this claim and literally sold a fake product to become rich.

Harry, honest or not, is not claiming to have invented anything or to have any tangible product of any kind. Equating them is fallacious and, honestly, inappropriate.

Again, it doesn't matter if reasonable people agree or disagree. The bottom line must be evident to the people writing checks because rich people don't pay other people millions of dollars for no reason. DJTJ may be valuable simply because of his name, and I certainly agree he's a vile toad and wish he was not being paid millions of dollars. But corporate america is not charity case work. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" spells it out. Two people are getting their back scratched!


Rich people pay each other millions all the time for the flimsiest of reasons! Remember when some rich guy paid a rich artist something like $10 million for a banana duct-taped to a wall? Remember all the Wall Street bankers who got paid hundreds of millions in 2008 despite the fact that they almost bankrupted their employers and helped to destroy the economy? Corporate America is itself a charity case, receiving billions in handouts during economic and global health crises, and the elites, recognizing the value of class solidarity, spread that money around amongst themselves. Elites help each other out to ensure that they all get their paydays, regardless of how much value it might actually bring to shareholders or whatever. Try not to be so naive.

(Also, you might want to look up the meaning of the word “equate.” Not sure you’re sure you’ve quite got a handle on it.)


I kinda feel like you mostly agree with PP but you’re just being pedantic and unnecessarily nasty instead of acknowledging your shared beliefs.


Then you’d be wrong. Also, PP suggested I am “insane,” and yet you think I’m the one who is unnecessarily nasty? I question your judgment.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welllll this explains a lot:

https://blindgossip.com/the-new-elon-musk/

He’s basically a Royal for sale now. Sad.


That blind item was funny. The better example would be wanting to be Hunter Biden, not Elon Musk.


That was funny. Does Harry realize what a joke he’s become or is he delusional? Does he actually want to debase himself this way or is MM pushing him to do so? It all seems so spectacularly humiliating.


I agree that it’s ridiculous. He might not be self-aware enough to realize he should be embarrassed. I suspect he may genuinely think he’s really worth huge payouts and equity in soon-to-go-public companies simply because of Who He Is.


We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day.


That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so.


Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table.

As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run.

I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking.

Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets?

Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly.


I don’t find Harry and Meghan to be credible either. There’s plenty of evidence that they have been deceptive recently.

You may think Donald Trump Jr can bring millions of dollars of value to a company by just joining a few phone calls, but most reasonable people would disagree. The closer you get to our ruling class, the more you realize they’re all figuring out ways to get paid and to pay each other - including through nepotism, lies, and corruption. Do you think corporate CEOs who get paid hundreds of millions despite substantial decreases in their corporations’ valuation are really worth the hundreds of millions and the subsequent golden parachutes? What often happens is a kind of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” mentality, where even the most incompetent failsons of the elite manage to get their big paydays.

But again, if you’re using a simplistic definition where “worth” equals “what you get paid,” then sure we can agree.


I feel like you are insane. Elizabeth Holmes claimed to have invented a new scientific process that would have revolutionized the medical industry. She built a valuation and fake research in support of this claim and literally sold a fake product to become rich.

Harry, honest or not, is not claiming to have invented anything or to have any tangible product of any kind. Equating them is fallacious and, honestly, inappropriate.

Again, it doesn't matter if reasonable people agree or disagree. The bottom line must be evident to the people writing checks because rich people don't pay other people millions of dollars for no reason. DJTJ may be valuable simply because of his name, and I certainly agree he's a vile toad and wish he was not being paid millions of dollars. But corporate america is not charity case work. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" spells it out. Two people are getting their back scratched!


Rich people pay each other millions all the time for the flimsiest of reasons! Remember when some rich guy paid a rich artist something like $10 million for a banana duct-taped to a wall? Remember all the Wall Street bankers who got paid hundreds of millions in 2008 despite the fact that they almost bankrupted their employers and helped to destroy the economy? Corporate America is itself a charity case, receiving billions in handouts during economic and global health crises, and the elites, recognizing the value of class solidarity, spread that money around amongst themselves. Elites help each other out to ensure that they all get their paydays, regardless of how much value it might actually bring to shareholders or whatever. Try not to be so naive.

(Also, you might want to look up the meaning of the word “equate.” Not sure you’re sure you’ve quite got a handle on it.)


I kinda feel like you mostly agree with PP but you’re just being pedantic and unnecessarily nasty instead of acknowledging your shared beliefs.


Then you’d be wrong. Also, PP suggested I am “insane,” and yet you think I’m the one who is unnecessarily nasty? I question your judgment.


Well I'm the PP you're arguing with and I agree with the other PP. I think you're being dismissive and misleading to try to get a rise out of me so you can redirect the conversation like you tried to above. Have a nice day!
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Pausing for a count: By my count in this thread we have haters who are confident they (1) know media production better than Netflix, (2) know immigration law better than USCIS, (3) know tax better than the IRS, (4) know equity compensation in Silicon Valley startups better than a venture-funded Silicon Valley start-up, (5) know UK copyright law better than a UK judge, and (6) know media distribution better than CBS.

What have I missed?

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