
What kind of possibilities? I'm honestly ignorant of what was offered to him. What are the rumors? |
And you know this how? |
I don’t think the BRF could agree to any deal that Harry wanted. It would have set a bad precedent. Harry wanted to not be obligated by royal duties but still get all the money, titles, and perks that come with being royal. Once the BRF offers that deal to one person, everyone would want it. It’s all upside for Harry and no downside. |
Ahh my b I misread ![]() |
We'll they've managed to secure some pretty lucrative positions so it seems like he really IS worth that. You are worth what someone is willing to pay you at the end of the day. |
That’s a highly unsophisticated perspective. When Elizabeth Holmes’ assets were valued at several billion dollars, do you think she really was “worth” that? When Donald Trump Jr or the like joins a board and receives millions for calling in to few meetings a year, does that mean he was really worth that? If you’re working with a very simplistic definition of the word “worth,” I can see how you would think so. |
Elizabeth Holmes was lying about her product. What a strange person to compare him with. She was a criminal who repeatedly and blatantly deceived the public and her shareholders in order to steal more money from them. Nothing about that situation is analogous to Harry, who is not hawking a product or, IMO, misrepresenting what he brings to the table. As for the above description of DJTJ, I think that likely from a purely financial perspective the answer is yes. Having his name attached leads to whatever business deals etc that end up profitable for the company in the long run. Or translates to some lobbying effort that helps the company in the long run. I don't understand this idea that you think companies through millions of dollars at someone because they feel sorry for them. That is ludicrous. They throw money at them because they benefit in some way. Sure some 'famous' people probably convince some companies to stupidly invest in them and end up suffering losses and then cutting the person loose, and we'll see if that happens here. But I don't understand what you think these companies are thinking. Are there people who make far more money than the physical and mental efforts of their labor imply they should? Absolutely. Is Harry one of those people? Yes. But he is also uniquely someone who's very existence requires more money than a normal person's existence. There are people who want to have him hurt because of his birth. So to act like he should...I dunno what do you want from him? He should go work at McDonalds or something because you think that's all he's qualified for? And when that McDonalds becomes the most successful McDonalds in America because everyone goes there to be served by Harry and they put his picture on the sign will you begrudge him the bonus he gets? Almost anyone would translate his baseline level of fame and fortune into MORE fame and fortune, or, at minimum, continued fortune. Acting like you would not do the same is silly, and equating him to an actual criminal is silly. |
Well what the hell is he supposed to do? I don't see an off-ramp from the BRF other than do charity stuff and beg your father (and then brother) for money for the rest of your life. Which is exactly the existence of Prince Andrew. The Firm has already indicated that the BRF will be slimmed down moving forward. Which is really code for "We won't be financially supporting you." So he's supposed to do charity stuff, make no money, but simultaneously be pushed out & the money spigot turned off? Does not compute. I'm not saying the BRF has to officially endorse Harry's deals or the companies he's involved with. But it would've been good if they were more supportive of his efforts to establish a truly independent life as a working professional. If only out of their own self-interest to ensure he didn't get suckered into rotten deals that would ruin his/the BRF's reputation. They were too stubborn to be pro-active about this, which is a damn shame. |
I don’t find Harry and Meghan to be credible either. There’s plenty of evidence that they have been deceptive recently. You may think Donald Trump Jr can bring millions of dollars of value to a company by just joining a few phone calls, but most reasonable people would disagree. The closer you get to our ruling class, the more you realize they’re all figuring out ways to get paid and to pay each other - including through nepotism, lies, and corruption. Do you think corporate CEOs who get paid hundreds of millions despite substantial decreases in their corporations’ valuation are really worth the hundreds of millions and the subsequent golden parachutes? What often happens is a kind of “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” mentality, where even the most incompetent failsons of the elite manage to get their big paydays. But again, if you’re using a simplistic definition where “worth” equals “what you get paid,” then sure we can agree. |
I feel like you are insane. Elizabeth Holmes claimed to have invented a new scientific process that would have revolutionized the medical industry. She built a valuation and fake research in support of this claim and literally sold a fake product to become rich. Harry, honest or not, is not claiming to have invented anything or to have any tangible product of any kind. Equating them is fallacious and, honestly, inappropriate. Again, it doesn't matter if reasonable people agree or disagree. The bottom line must be evident to the people writing checks because rich people don't pay other people millions of dollars for no reason. DJTJ may be valuable simply because of his name, and I certainly agree he's a vile toad and wish he was not being paid millions of dollars. But corporate america is not charity case work. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" spells it out. Two people are getting their back scratched! |
Rich people pay each other millions all the time for the flimsiest of reasons! Remember when some rich guy paid a rich artist something like $10 million for a banana duct-taped to a wall? Remember all the Wall Street bankers who got paid hundreds of millions in 2008 despite the fact that they almost bankrupted their employers and helped to destroy the economy? Corporate America is itself a charity case, receiving billions in handouts during economic and global health crises, and the elites, recognizing the value of class solidarity, spread that money around amongst themselves. Elites help each other out to ensure that they all get their paydays, regardless of how much value it might actually bring to shareholders or whatever. Try not to be so naive. (Also, you might want to look up the meaning of the word “equate.” Not sure you’re sure you’ve quite got a handle on it.) |
I kinda feel like you mostly agree with PP but you’re just being pedantic and unnecessarily nasty instead of acknowledging your shared beliefs. |
Then you’d be wrong. Also, PP suggested I am “insane,” and yet you think I’m the one who is unnecessarily nasty? I question your judgment. |
Well I'm the PP you're arguing with and I agree with the other PP. I think you're being dismissive and misleading to try to get a rise out of me so you can redirect the conversation like you tried to above. Have a nice day! |
Pausing for a count: By my count in this thread we have haters who are confident they (1) know media production better than Netflix, (2) know immigration law better than USCIS, (3) know tax better than the IRS, (4) know equity compensation in Silicon Valley startups better than a venture-funded Silicon Valley start-up, (5) know UK copyright law better than a UK judge, and (6) know media distribution better than CBS.
What have I missed? |