Affirmative Action should be income-based, not race-based

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Anonymous wrote:White privilege = trying to dismantle a program for blacks and Hispanics and take it for themselves

Program already benefits white women.

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Anonymous wrote:Whites are so scared of brown getting a sliver of pie.

Affirmative action has been around for 50 years! It’s worked great.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondly I have to laugh at how people think going to college is the key to success, a good job and income security.

If that was the case then why aren’t minority college grads doing tough majors and going into law, medicine, consulting, appears, engineering jobs.

Instead they fill up gender and racial studies departments, become further enraged and victimized, and go on to make peanuts working for liberal NGOs, schools or esol programs.

Peanuts? Diversity deanships pay way more than many law firm jobs, sucker.

And they get paid to do nothing.

Paid to brainwash kids and appease the angry small mobs.

Someone in China and India can't stop laughing at our stupidity.

Yeah, because they are all so perfect.

What a random answer.

They are not perfect and they know they aren't. They are just catching up quickly and educating millions of engineers (for example) while we obsess with AA and ethnic studies.

Who exactly is “obsessed” with AA and ethnic studies?

What measurable impact does AA have? Positive and negative so we know the full picture.

And you think ethnic studies is displacing engineering? How so?

Have you been paying attention? Elite colleges like Stanford is so focused on AA that they admit URM students into their Physics major who are unable to successfully complete freshman year Physics classes. The impact is that they denied entry to other more qualified candidates who would have had no problem meeting these basic performance standards. They are also wasting resources constructing remedial courses for these unqualified students, instead of spending that money on research and other more worthwhile endeavors. Why is their physics department putting up a course called Diverse Perspectives in Physics. Where in the variable or constant representing diversity in any physics equation?

Engineering has a 50% drop out rates. American minorities, have an 85%+ drop out rate of engineering. Ie they get in to the engineering school, can’t hack it and change to an easy liberal arts major. I say American minorities because the african, SE Asian minorities stay in the programs and graduate.

This exactly.

And many of those minorities don't even complete college yet accumulate a ton of debt.

Congrats racists -- you manage to steal someone's seat and crush a minority under a mountain of debt.

You're the best.

Yes, let's protect the poor black folk. Let's not let them go away to big bad college and try something hard. Let's not burden them with a better education or even homeownership. We gotta protect them from themselves, right? We know what's best.

Dude, they pick the majors and career track. Check out what they pick!

Btw, women drop it if engineering at high rates as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondly I have to laugh at how people think going to college is the key to success, a good job and income security.

If that was the case then why aren’t minority college grads doing tough majors and going into law, medicine, consulting, appears, engineering jobs.

Instead they fill up gender and racial studies departments, become further enraged and victimized, and go on to make peanuts working for liberal NGOs, schools or esol programs.

Peanuts? Diversity deanships pay way more than many law firm jobs, sucker.

And they get paid to do nothing.

Paid to brainwash kids and appease the angry small mobs.

Someone in China and India can't stop laughing at our stupidity.

Yeah, because they are all so perfect.

What a random answer.

They are not perfect and they know they aren't. They are just catching up quickly and educating millions of engineers (for example) while we obsess with AA and ethnic studies.

Who exactly is “obsessed” with AA and ethnic studies?

What measurable impact does AA have? Positive and negative so we know the full picture.

And you think ethnic studies is displacing engineering? How so?

Have you been paying attention? Elite colleges like Stanford is so focused on AA that they admit URM students into their Physics major who are unable to successfully complete freshman year Physics classes. The impact is that they denied entry to other more qualified candidates who would have had no problem meeting these basic performance standards. They are also wasting resources constructing remedial courses for these unqualified students, instead of spending that money on research and other more worthwhile endeavors. Why is their physics department putting up a course called Diverse Perspectives in Physics. Where in the variable or constant representing diversity in any physics equation?

Engineering has a 50% drop out rates. American minorities, have an 85%+ drop out rate of engineering. Ie they get in to the engineering school, can’t hack it and change to an easy liberal arts major. I say American minorities because the african, SE Asian minorities stay in the programs and graduate.

This exactly.

And many of those minorities don't even complete college yet accumulate a ton of debt.

Congrats racists -- you manage to steal someone's seat and crush a minority under a mountain of debt.

You're the best.

Yes, let's protect the poor black folk. Let's not let them go away to big bad college and try something hard. Let's not burden them with a better education or even homeownership. We gotta protect them from themselves, right? We know what's best.

Dude, they pick the majors and career track. Check out what they pick!

Btw, women drop it if engineering at high rates as well.

Yes, let's not let the black folk -- or women -- pick any hard majors! We must protect them from themselves! Right?

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Anonymous wrote:The percentage of African Americans admitted to top colleges has not really changed that much in the past 20 or 30 years except that a lot more African American women are getting graduate degrees.

The bigger change in college and graduate school admissions is the increase in Asian students at top colleges. That is at least partly due to the legal immigration system's preference to reject poor immigrants and only take those with advanced degrees or plenty of money to invest. Their kids are who are beating out your unexceptional Billys for elite college admissions.

Incorrect. Employment based immigration(includes both skilled and unskilled)/Investment based immigration make up only about 20-25% of the immigrants from the Asian countries for the past 40 years. Most immigrants are coming to US to seek better economic opportunities not typically because of their wealth. Stop spreading misinformation.

That's still a lot of professionals with advanced degrees whose children are in the college applicant pool.

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What I see here is that white liberals are very opposed to giving a helping hand to low-income/-achieving white kids but very determined to help black kids even if they are from affluent homes.

What a bunch of self-hating bigots.

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Anonymous wrote:What I see here is that white liberals are very opposed to giving a helping hand to low-income/-achieving white kids but very determined to help black kids even if they are from affluent homes.

What a bunch of self-hating bigots.

Either you can’t read or you’re a liar.

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Anonymous wrote:Whites are so scared of brown getting a sliver of pie.

Affirmative action has been around for 50 years! It’s worked great.

Let's keep it for a thousand years!

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Anonymous wrote:Whites are so scared of brown getting a sliver of pie.

Affirmative action has been around for 50 years! It’s worked great.

Let's keep it for a thousand years!

If need be yes! No more white enclaves.

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Anonymous wrote:Whites are so scared of brown getting a sliver of pie.

Affirmative action has been around for 50 years! It’s worked great.

Let's keep it for a thousand years!

If need be yes! No more white enclaves.

OK. Why don’t you start bursting your own bubble first.

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The reason the number of white students may appear to be declining at some schools is because there have been increases in the numbers of students who identified themselves as multiple race/ethnicity and in those whose race is listed as unknown/other because they declined to answer the question.

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Anonymous wrote:Whites are so scared of brown getting a sliver of pie.

Affirmative action has been around for 50 years! It’s worked great.

Let's keep it for a thousand years!

If need be yes! No more white enclaves.

Uh oh. What do we do with all the black enclaves? Send folks somewhere? Just let them die?

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Whites need to STFU and listen. Stop the whitesplaining.

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Anonymous wrote:Whites need to STFU and listen. Stop the whitesplaining.

I’m listening. Do your whatever-splaining.

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Anonymous wrote:Secondly I have to laugh at how people think going to college is the key to success, a good job and income security.

If that was the case then why aren’t minority college grads doing tough majors and going into law, medicine, consulting, appears, engineering jobs.

Instead they fill up gender and racial studies departments, become further enraged and victimized, and go on to make peanuts working for liberal NGOs, schools or esol programs.

Peanuts? Diversity deanships pay way more than many law firm jobs, sucker.

And they get paid to do nothing.

Paid to brainwash kids and appease the angry small mobs.

Someone in China and India can't stop laughing at our stupidity.

Yeah, because they are all so perfect.

What a random answer.

They are not perfect and they know they aren't. They are just catching up quickly and educating millions of engineers (for example) while we obsess with AA and ethnic studies.

Who exactly is “obsessed” with AA and ethnic studies?

What measurable impact does AA have? Positive and negative so we know the full picture.

And you think ethnic studies is displacing engineering? How so?

Have you been paying attention? Elite colleges like Stanford is so focused on AA that they admit URM students into their Physics major who are unable to successfully complete freshman year Physics classes. The impact is that they denied entry to other more qualified candidates who would have had no problem meeting these basic performance standards. They are also wasting resources constructing remedial courses for these unqualified students, instead of spending that money on research and other more worthwhile endeavors. Why is their physics department putting up a course called Diverse Perspectives in Physics. Where in the variable or constant representing diversity in any physics equation?

Engineering has a 50% drop out rates. American minorities, have an 85%+ drop out rate of engineering. Ie they get in to the engineering school, can’t hack it and change to an easy liberal arts major. I say American minorities because the african, SE Asian minorities stay in the programs and graduate.

This exactly.

And many of those minorities don't even complete college yet accumulate a ton of debt.

Congrats racists -- you manage to steal someone's seat and crush a minority under a mountain of debt.

You're the best.

Yes, let's protect the poor black folk. Let's not let them go away to big bad college and try something hard. Let's not burden them with a better education or even homeownership. We gotta protect them from themselves, right? We know what's best.

Dude, they pick the majors and career track. Check out what they pick!

Btw, women drop it if engineering at high rates as well.

Yes, let's not let the black folk -- or women -- pick any hard majors! We must protect them from themselves! Right?

Students should choose their own major but the dropout rate of URMs and women from pre-med and STEM majors is pretty embarrassing.