Reported hazing incident involving Damascus High School JV Football team

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

not a good example since it was consensual.

A good example would be the old man at RM (aka security guard) that was raping the student, was given a low bond, raped her again and then spent <18 months in jail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

Let's discuss the actual case at hand, which involves 15-year-olds accused of rape, instead of hypotheticals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

The case was thrown out because the community doesn't value female and doesn't want illegal immigrants to be proscuted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would your opinion be different if the perps had allegedly raped 14 year old girls with a broomstick?

We would not be discussing this because the court might not try them and certainly not as adults.

Remember the court system is full of Bret Kavanaughs.

This is what happened with the RHS rape case last year.

Victim was a young girl. Case basically got thrown out with people saying it was consensual, even though the victim was a minor and the rapists were adult males.

The case was thrown out because the community doesn't value female and doesn't want illegal immigrants to be proscuted.

It got thrown out because there are text messages to the boys asking them to have sex.

if you want to talk about a real case the Richard Montgomery case is a real case where they did not value the female.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

If my child was raped or murdered and the person who did it would eventually be released from jail, I would hope they released somebody that was reformed not somebody that will most likely commit a crime again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

I don't think it is a camp, I think it is a place to reform juveniles, and yes, I hope that a 17-year old would be able to be reformed. And these KIDS did not intend to scar their teammates for life like they did. It was terrible judgement but do you really think that them being 15 was not a factor in their bad judgement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

If my child was raped or murdered and the person who did it would eventually be released from jail, I would hope they released somebody that was reformed not somebody that will most likely commit a crime again.

You have a very unrealistic view of the system. In 2017 I was robbed by a 17 and 18 year old. The 18 year old was a repeat offender and faced 18 years in prison for multiple counts. He spent 1 month in a pre-release facility. The 17 year old was remanded to the juvenile court where he was given a list of things he had to do (community service, write a letter, etc). He did none of those. Later in the year he was arrested on drug distribution charges while in possession of an altered (serial number removed) firearm. Not yet 18 he served no time and walked away with community service. Meanwhile, my kid slept at the foot of my bed for 2 months because they were afraid to be in their own home.

Reformed? Wake up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

I don't think it is a camp, I think it is a place to reform juveniles, and yes, I hope that a 17-year old would be able to be reformed. And these KIDS did not intend to scar their teammates for life like they did. It was terrible judgement but do you really think that them being 15 was not a factor in their bad judgement?

There are PLENTY of normal 15 yo kids out there where this would NEVER cross their minds.

My daughter is 6 months shy of turning 15. She was disgusted by the incident.

NOT normal behavior for even the most impulsive teen - These kids are not healthy, and based on this incident, I highly doubt they've been living in some bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

I don't think it is a camp, I think it is a place to reform juveniles, and yes, I hope that a 17-year old would be able to be reformed. And these KIDS did not intend to scar their teammates for life like they did. It was terrible judgement but do you really think that them being 15 was not a factor in their bad judgement?

again

Let's say it was YOUR kid who was sexually assaulted. What would you be posting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

I don't think it is a camp, I think it is a place to reform juveniles, and yes, I hope that a 17-year old would be able to be reformed. And these KIDS did not intend to scar their teammates for life like they did. It was terrible judgement but do you really think that them being 15 was not a factor in their bad judgement?

You must be the parent of one of the perps. No one who commits a crime thinks about the fact that they might be scarring their victims for life. That doesn't negate the fact that they committed a HORRIBLE and VIOLENT crime. Being 15 may have factored into their judgement but that doesn't make it an excuse. Please tell me how many 15 year olds in MCPS would do the same behavior - if it is more than 0 we as parents have a serious problem because that means no child is safe in our schools.

BTW - the health education curriculum for 2nd quarter of 5th grade states that students will learn to "recognize sexual harrassment as a form of violence." Obviously 1st degree rape is much more serious than sexual harrassment. MCPS expects 10 year old children to understand this and be graded on it on their 2nd quarter report card. But please go on making excuses for a bunch of violent 15 year old rapists

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't think it is a camp, I think it is a place to reform juveniles, and yes, I hope that a 17-year old would be able to be reformed. And these KIDS did not intend to scar their teammates for life like they did. It was terrible judgement but do you really think that them being 15 was not a factor in their bad judgement?

There are PLENTY of normal 15 yo kids out there where this would NEVER cross their minds.

My daughter is 6 months shy of turning 15. She was disgusted by the incident.

NOT normal behavior for even the most impulsive teen - These kids are not healthy, and based on this incident, I highly doubt they've been living in some bubble.

DP. Saying that being 15 was a factor in their bad judgment is not the same as saying that all 15-year-olds would do this. Just as, for example, adults rob banks, but that doesn't mean that all adults rob banks.

Do you consider your 6-months-shy-of-turning-15 daughter an adult?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Didn't you know that the kids are juveniles? That's what the juvenile court system is for. Juveniles. They are not adults.

To be clear, you think child rape is an offense that should be handled differently than adult rape?

DP. I think that non-adults accused or convicted of crimes should be handled differently from adults accused or convicted of crimes.

So if a 17 year old murders your kid, you're ok with juvie camp?

If my child was raped or murdered and the person who did it would eventually be released from jail, I would hope they released somebody that was reformed not somebody that will most likely commit a crime again.

You have a very unrealistic view of the system. In 2017 I was robbed by a 17 and 18 year old. The 18 year old was a repeat offender and faced 18 years in prison for multiple counts. He spent 1 month in a pre-release facility. The 17 year old was remanded to the juvenile court where he was given a list of things he had to do (community service, write a letter, etc). He did none of those. Later in the year he was arrested on drug distribution charges while in possession of an altered (serial number removed) firearm. Not yet 18 he served no time and walked away with community service. Meanwhile, my kid slept at the foot of my bed for 2 months because they were afraid to be in their own home.

Reformed? Wake up.

No duh the system is broken.

All the white bankers that crashed the economy got bonuses.

Yes, we need reform and parity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, they're being tried as adults. They are still juveniles. In Maryland juveniles being tried as adults can be housed separately from adults, sometimes in a juvenile wing, until they turn 18.

This.

Do you mean an adult penitentiary that has a juvenile wing?
Adult prisons do not have that. They might have an isolation until

You're both right. From the web: While adult facilities in some states separate juveniles from adult inmates, many do not. Children as young as thirteen may be held alongside adult offenders.

There is a 2015 Maryland law that addresses this issue. Read about it here:

http://justkidsmaryland.org/press-release-bill-signed-by-governor-hogan-improves-the-treatment-of-youth-charged-as-adults/