Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

She was responding to the claim that transgender is a recent thing. It's been around as long as written history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

I find it funny for the opposite reason. Their religions have nothing to say on trans people and some of the oldest writings are fine with them. Yet they claim that it's wrong morally because of religion. But then again, I think I got the version of the bible where they removed that famous saying from jesus christ where he said "though shalt not allow a transgender person to live".

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Anonymous wrote:I’m originally from a rural small town. When I visit my parents, there are Trump yard signs around. I’ve chatted with people from town who tell about abut gay children or gay grandchildren. They seem very accepting and have no issue with it. And in the same conversation, they’ll tell me the election was unfair and how wonderful Trump was for our country.

There's not as big a disconnect there as liberals (like me) want there to be. Apart from being a terrible person, Trump's policies actually weren't that bad. And no, that's not sarcasm. Trump is a dumpster fire of a human being. But what did he actually DO policy wise that was terrible?

Muslim Bans
Family separations at the border
Roll back federal protections for LGBT kids
Appoint three justices to the Supreme Court who overturned Roe v Wade
A 5 week government shutdown
Abandoning the Kurds
Unleash the anti mask movement at a time when hospitals were overrun, hundreds of thousands were dying, we had no handle on what COVID was and we had no vaccines
Fail to provide coherent anything from the Department of Education on reopening schools
Roll back critical EPA regulations, especially in the area of clean water
Deny the election results and incite an insurrection
And when he left, take highly classified documents and leve them sitting unsecured in his bathroom

For starters.

We can't take you seriously if you insist on co-mingling woke histrionics and a few bad things he actually did. Care to try again with a legitimate list?

DP... that list is totally legit and you own it. Lame deflection. You people truly suck.

DP. Talk about deflection - could you possibly be further off-topic?? This thread has nothing to do with TFG, but trust a LWNJ to try and deflect to him in every.single.thread. Stick to the topic.

It doesn't have anything to do with the former guy? YES IT DOES. Conservative politics is still very much entangled with TFG and MAGA. Hell you could barely even disentangle for McCarthy's speakership bid.

You're a COMPLETE JOKE for wanting to push this off. An unserious person not willing to acknowledge your own deep liabilities on all of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Public nudity is not illegal in Washington state. Dykes on Bikes has been a thing at pride parades for decades. Being a nudist isn’t a queer thing, since it doesn’t have anything to do with sexuality, but some queers are also nudists. The topless lesbians always seemed like a middle finger to the patriarchy to me, but you may see it differently.

What I would like to know is why is it an emergency now?

Do you also think that the men who had their penises out in front of children is NBD?

Would I have taken my kid when she was under 10? I don’t know, but I’m not those parents. It’s not like you’d accidentally be in the route of a pride parade.

I don’t find nudity inherently sexual. As a matter of fact, I find sexualizing nudity to be rather creepy. If you feel scandalized by some breasts and peens, then don’t take your child. No need to blow your lid about it.

It's still amazing to me that even the uptight Germans and other Europeans are considerably less prudish about this than conservative Americans are. I agree that there is an inherent difference between mere anatomy versus what is actually sexual.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

I find it funny for the opposite reason. Their religions have nothing to say on trans people and some of the oldest writings are fine with them. Yet they claim that it's wrong morally because of religion. But then again, I think I got the version of the bible where they removed that famous saying from jesus christ where he said "though shalt not allow a transgender person to live".

Citing religious texts as if they are history books (and even those are fraught with lies and inaccuracies) does not make your argument any more valid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

I find it funny for the opposite reason. Their religions have nothing to say on trans people and some of the oldest writings are fine with them. Yet they claim that it's wrong morally because of religion. But then again, I think I got the version of the bible where they removed that famous saying from jesus christ where he said "though shalt not allow a transgender person to live".

Citing religious texts as if they are history books (and even those are fraught with lies and inaccuracies) does not make your argument any more valid.

Oh they're definitely full of lies. Religious texts are propaganda with made of nonsense. There is no god. That doesn't mean that the idea behind transgender individuals hasn't existed for a very long time. It's not a new thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

I find it funny for the opposite reason. Their religions have nothing to say on trans people and some of the oldest writings are fine with them. Yet they claim that it's wrong morally because of religion. But then again, I think I got the version of the bible where they removed that famous saying from jesus christ where he said "though shalt not allow a transgender person to live".

Citing religious texts as if they are history books (and even those are fraught with lies and inaccuracies) does not make your argument any more valid.

Oh they're definitely full of lies. Religious texts are propaganda with made of nonsense. There is no god. That doesn't mean that the idea behind transgender individuals hasn't existed for a very long time. It's not a new thing.

I agree with you that trans gender individuals are not new -- anyone disputing this is an idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

Whether you believe in god or not, the Talmud exists, and it wasn’t written last week.

[Anonymous]

PP here again. I believe humans use religion as an excuse for their bigotry, even when it clearly isn’t even in the religious texts.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

Whether you believe in god or not, the Talmud exists, and it wasn’t written last week.

The same can be said about the Bible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d just like to say again that the Talmud lists 6 genders. Thousands of years ago, they knew gender wasn’t binary.

You are all OK citing religious texts when it suits your beliefs.

The context you seem to be missing is people were discussing trans people in historical texts. The Talmud predates those other records.

I understand the context. I just find it humorous that the same people screaming about religious bigotry are citing religious texts to support their arguments against what they perceive as religious bigotry.

Whether you believe in god or not, the Talmud exists, and it wasn’t written last week.

The same can be said about the Bible.

Obviously, since the Old Testament came from the Talmud.