Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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I only hear theological arguments about LBGT from the left. And I listen to what DCUM would call "stochastic terrorists."

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Can't conserve what is already gone.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m originally from a rural small town. When I visit my parents, there are Trump yard signs around. I’ve chatted with people from town who tell about abut gay children or gay grandchildren. They seem very accepting and have no issue with it. And in the same conversation, they’ll tell me the election was unfair and how wonderful Trump was for our country.

There's not as big a disconnect there as liberals (like me) want there to be. Apart from being a terrible person, Trump's policies actually weren't that bad. And no, that's not sarcasm. Trump is a dumpster fire of a human being. But what did he actually DO policy wise that was terrible?

Muslim Bans
Family separations at the border
Roll back federal protections for LGBT kids
Appoint three justices to the Supreme Court who overturned Roe v Wade
A 5 week government shutdown
Abandoning the Kurds
Unleash the anti mask movement at a time when hospitals were overrun, hundreds of thousands were dying, we had no handle on what COVID was and we had no vaccines
Fail to provide coherent anything from the Department of Education on reopening schools
Roll back critical EPA regulations, especially in the area of clean water
Deny the election results and incite an insurrection
And when he left, take highly classified documents and leve them sitting unsecured in his bathroom

For starters.

We can't take you seriously if you insist on co-mingling woke histrionics and a few bad things he actually did. Care to try again with a legitimate list?

DP... that list is totally legit and you own it. Lame deflection. You people truly suck.

DP. Talk about deflection - could you possibly be further off-topic?? This thread has nothing to do with TFG, but trust a LWNJ to try and deflect to him in every.single.thread. Stick to the topic.

It doesn't have anything to do with the former guy? YES IT DOES. Conservative politics is still very much entangled with TFG and MAGA. Hell you could barely even disentangle for McCarthy's speakership bid.

You're a COMPLETE JOKE for wanting to push this off. An unserious person not willing to acknowledge your own deep liabilities on all of this.

Someone needs a nap. I have news for you: no one is coming for you or anyone in the LGBT community. You can prance around naked all you like, but that only serves to make moderates want to distance themselves from you. And by moderates, I'm including many gay people who want NOTHING to do with the extremists who see fit to parade around nude.

Funny how no one has explained why it's necessary for LGBTs to be naked in public. Why the exhibitionism? We'll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:I know OP was asking for a bit more analysis though

There have always been gay people and if they want to get married and old and bored together they are more than welcome as far as I’m concerned

There are no doubt some people who are genuinely “trans” but it’s a psych condition to be managed, not a brave new philosophy to be celebrated - and there is quite obviously a social contagion element to it, particularly where tween/teen girls are concerned, so I think we as a society should tread VERY lightly and slowly and cautiously in medicalizing it

My opinion

+1. Well said. I also draw the line at threats to women and children. I vehemently object to laws that allow men to use women's restrooms and invade female spaces like locker rooms and sorority houses. If you're born male, then no competing in female sports because you "feel" a certain way. That's misogynistic in this new progressive way where the libs discriminate against certain groups under the guise of protecting other groups who vote their way. I also support laws preventing teaching children in K-3rd grades about stuff like being trans. DeSantis got that right.

I'm pretty conservative because the only thing that I support is equal marriage laws. I agree that women should be allowed to marry women and men allowed to marry men, and receive the same healthcare and tax benefits as everyone else. That part is only fair. I've felt this way for decades and actually demonstrated for these rights. So I guess this is how far I want LGBTQ rights rolled back.

It was inventing a “problem” that does r even exist. And y’all fell for it!

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*doesn’t

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know OP was asking for a bit more analysis though

There have always been gay people and if they want to get married and old and bored together they are more than welcome as far as I’m concerned

There are no doubt some people who are genuinely “trans” but it’s a psych condition to be managed, not a brave new philosophy to be celebrated - and there is quite obviously a social contagion element to it, particularly where tween/teen girls are concerned, so I think we as a society should tread VERY lightly and slowly and cautiously in medicalizing it

My opinion

+1. Well said. I also draw the line at threats to women and children. I vehemently object to laws that allow men to use women's restrooms and invade female spaces like locker rooms and sorority houses. If you're born male, then no competing in female sports because you "feel" a certain way. That's misogynistic in this new progressive way where the libs discriminate against certain groups under the guise of protecting other groups who vote their way. I also support laws preventing teaching children in K-3rd grades about stuff like being trans. DeSantis got that right.

I'm pretty conservative because the only thing that I support is equal marriage laws. I agree that women should be allowed to marry women and men allowed to marry men, and receive the same healthcare and tax benefits as everyone else. That part is only fair. I've felt this way for decades and actually demonstrated for these rights. So I guess this is how far I want LGBTQ rights rolled back.

It was inventing a “problem” that does r even exist. And y’all fell for it!

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What happens when her child sees a trans person on the street of the metro? DC has the highest trans population in the country at something like 3%. That’s one in 33 people you see in DC is a trans person. If you don’t see them then you aren’t good at clocking them.

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Anonymous wrote:I only hear theological arguments about LBGT from the left. And I listen to what DCUM would call "stochastic terrorists."

I don’t see any theological arguments here.

[Anonymous]

NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.

You have a 1 in 33 chance in DC that the other woman in the bathroom with you is a transgender woman. That's because 3% of the population of DC is transgender. Assuming you live in DC or ever even visit. The suburbs also contain a high percent of trans people.

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Speaking of DC, is anyone familiar with AYA? They have a "trans night" every Tuesday because the population is so high. But I'm sure everyone here can always tell who's trans and they can tell which of ever 1 in 33 people they see on the street or Metro is trans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.

Nobody says that ever. Stop making up imaginary things to be angry about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.

Nobody says that ever. Stop making up imaginary things to be angry about.

Oh, so you are in favor of allowing women to enforce sex-based restrictions to places like women’s rape crisis centers? You are in favor of allowing a rape crisis center to require staff be female-bodies?

Are you in favor of allowing women to legally enforce their rights to single sex-based spaces? Yes or no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.

Nobody says that ever. Stop making up imaginary things to be angry about.

Oh, so you are in favor of allowing women to enforce sex-based restrictions to places like women’s rape crisis centers? You are in favor of allowing a rape crisis center to require staff be female-bodies?

Are you in favor of allowing women to legally enforce their rights to single sex-based spaces? Yes or no?

Are you talking about England or the DMV? Have there been reported issues in DC of trans women going to rape crisis centers and cis women complaining? I know a couple of the pp’s like to post things about other countries.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.

Nobody says that ever. Stop making up imaginary things to be angry about.

Oh, so you are in favor of allowing women to enforce sex-based restrictions to places like women’s rape crisis centers? You are in favor of allowing a rape crisis center to require staff be female-bodies?

Are you in favor of allowing women to legally enforce their rights to single sex-based spaces? Yes or no?

Are you talking about England or the DMV? Have there been reported issues in DC of trans women going to rape crisis centers and cis women complaining? I know a couple of the pp’s like to post things about other countries.

Answer the question, please. It is not specific to rape crisis centers.

Are you in favor of allowing women to legally enforce their rights to single sex-based spaces? Yes or no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.

You have a 1 in 33 chance in DC that the other woman in the bathroom with you is a transgender woman. That's because 3% of the population of DC is transgender. Assuming you live in DC or ever even visit. The suburbs also contain a high percent of trans people.

And? Have you been to college or send a kid? The bathroom are the bathrooms. They are not separated by sex or gender or graduating year or height or anything othere than do you have to pee or not. Relax.