How long will the shutdown last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:He is tweeting about declaring an emergency to push the wall through without Congress again this morning.

He mentioned this the other day. Claims he can declare an emergency and then use military funding on the wall. So why is the government shut down if he doesn't need Congress to fund the wall? This is one heck of a slippery slope. At that point, the President can declare anything a national emergency and spend military funds on it.

I think he is going to do it.

Republican's are going to hate it when the next Democratic President declares a national emergency and uses military funds for some pet project...

The truth of the matter is, an emergency is an acute and sudden problem. A national emergency is not a boarder that's been in existence since we won the Mexican-American War. Examples of emergencies: Pearl Harbor, 9-11, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornados, plane crashes, fires, etc. Examples of non-emergencies: A boarder that's been in existence since 1848, our airports are old and embarrassing, pot holes, natural disaster preparation, missing dessert.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyday it is shutdown I wake up and say thank you

Another day goes by that demonstrates how little gov does for he middle class

Guess you don’t expect a tax refund.

A tax refund is an interest free loan to government. Bad idea. If you were smart, you adjusted for that and kept your own cash throughout the year

I wrote *you* because I owe money.

And you aren't very good at calculations, most people aren't, you will owe penalties.

No, I won’t! I have been paying estimated taxes every quarter. I have extremely complex taxes. I have a CPA who does my taxes.

Hold the phone! You've got complex taxes and have a CPA and yet you're calling people out for getting a tax refund? Talk about apples and oranges! You are nothing like the normal person!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is tweeting about declaring an emergency to push the wall through without Congress again this morning.

He mentioned this the other day. Claims he can declare an emergency and then use military funding on the wall. So why is the government shut down if he doesn't need Congress to fund the wall? This is one heck of a slippery slope. At that point, the President can declare anything a national emergency and spend military funds on it.

I think he is going to do it.

Republican's are going to hate it when the next Democratic President declares a national emergency and uses military funds for some pet project...

The truth of the matter is, an emergency is an acute and sudden problem. A national emergency is not a boarder that's been in existence since we won the Mexican-American War. Examples of emergencies: Pearl Harbor, 9-11, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornados, plane crashes, fires, etc. Examples of non-emergencies: A boarder that's been in existence since 1848, our airports are old and embarrassing, pot holes, natural disaster preparation, missing dessert.

The chocolate cake from Mir-a-Lago? He’s sad he didn’t get to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He is tweeting about declaring an emergency to push the wall through without Congress again this morning.

Oh, the drama continues! This is reality show BS which we’re following with baited breath.

Will he? Won’t he? Truman show.

Meanwhile 800,000 ppl are going w/out paycheck and millions suffering from fall out.

Mark Burnett taught Trump well.

[Anonymous]

This might prompt some movement - large government contracts are at risk because of the shutdown. Executives at large government contractors = campaign donors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-07/shutdown-puts-200-million-a-day-in-federal-contracts-at-risk?srnd=premium

We know Trump and members of Congress don't care about us, but they care about their donors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is tweeting about declaring an emergency to push the wall through without Congress again this morning.

He mentioned this the other day. Claims he can declare an emergency and then use military funding on the wall. So why is the government shut down if he doesn't need Congress to fund the wall? This is one heck of a slippery slope. At that point, the President can declare anything a national emergency and spend military funds on it.

I think he is going to do it.

Republican's are going to hate it when the next Democratic President declares a national emergency and uses military funds for some pet project...

The truth of the matter is, an emergency is an acute and sudden problem. A national emergency is not a boarder that's been in existence since we won the Mexican-American War. Examples of emergencies: Pearl Harbor, 9-11, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornados, plane crashes, fires, etc. Examples of non-emergencies: A boarder that's been in existence since 1848, our airports are old and embarrassing, pot holes, natural disaster preparation, missing dessert.

The chocolate cake from Mir-a-Lago? He’s sad he didn’t get to go.

Fly that man the chocolate cake he missed, maybe that will make him feel better!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyday it is shutdown I wake up and say thank you

Another day goes by that demonstrates how little gov does for he middle class

Guess you don’t expect a tax refund.

A tax refund is an interest free loan to government. Bad idea. If you were smart, you adjusted for that and kept your own cash throughout the year

I wrote *you* because I owe money.

And you aren't very good at calculations, most people aren't, you will owe penalties.

No, I won’t! I have been paying estimated taxes every quarter. I have extremely complex taxes. I have a CPA who does my taxes.

Hold the phone! You've got complex taxes and have a CPA and yet you're calling people out for getting a tax refund? Talk about apples and oranges! You are nothing like the normal person!

You posted that the government does nothing for the middle class. I was saying that most middle class people are probably expecting refunds. I wasn’t including me in this discussion. You started that conversation. Yes, I realize I’m unusual as I own a small company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This might prompt some movement - large government contracts are at risk because of the shutdown. Executives at large government contractors = campaign donors.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-07/shutdown-puts-200-million-a-day-in-federal-contracts-at-risk?srnd=premium

We know Trump and members of Congress don't care about us, but they care about their donors.

They don’t care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyday it is shutdown I wake up and say thank you

Another day goes by that demonstrates how little gov does for he middle class

We aren’t a socialist country. If you want a lot of services, we need to increase taxes.

I work with offshore oil and gas lease sales. You don’t want that service? It brings in revenue and creates jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyday it is shutdown I wake up and say thank you

Another day goes by that demonstrates how little gov does for he middle class

Guess you don’t expect a tax refund.

A tax refund is an interest free loan to government. Bad idea. If you were smart, you adjusted for that and kept your own cash throughout the year

I wrote *you* because I owe money.

And you aren't very good at calculations, most people aren't, you will owe penalties.

No, I won’t! I have been paying estimated taxes every quarter. I have extremely complex taxes. I have a CPA who does my taxes.

Hold the phone! You've got complex taxes and have a CPA and yet you're calling people out for getting a tax refund? Talk about apples and oranges! You are nothing like the normal person!

You posted that the government does nothing for the middle class. I was saying that most middle class people are probably expecting refunds. I wasn’t including me in this discussion. You started that conversation. Yes, I realize I’m unusual as I own a small company.

That was actually a typo, didn’t mean to say you aren’t good. Meant to say If you aren’t... typo that made it look like I was talking about you instead of the general public which I doubt can do this math

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyday it is shutdown I wake up and say thank you

Another day goes by that demonstrates how little gov does for he middle class

Guess you don’t expect a tax refund.

A tax refund is an interest free loan to government. Bad idea. If you were smart, you adjusted for that and kept your own cash throughout the year

I wrote *you* because I owe money.

And you aren't very good at calculations, most people aren't, you will owe penalties.

No, I won’t! I have been paying estimated taxes every quarter. I have extremely complex taxes. I have a CPA who does my taxes.

Hold the phone! You've got complex taxes and have a CPA and yet you're calling people out for getting a tax refund? Talk about apples and oranges! You are nothing like the normal person!

You posted that the government does nothing for the middle class. I was saying that most middle class people are probably expecting refunds. I wasn’t including me in this discussion. You started that conversation. Yes, I realize I’m unusual as I own a small company.

That was actually a typo, didn’t mean to say you aren’t good. Meant to say If you aren’t... typo that made it look like I was talking about you instead of the general public which I doubt can do this math

Agree. Most people have a remedial understanding of taxes. They are extremely complicated. But I do safe harbor every year per my CPA’s guidelines. I pay a breath-taking amount in taxes, which I’m only angry about when I hear about rich people not paying their taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He is tweeting about declaring an emergency to push the wall through without Congress again this morning.

He mentioned this the other day. Claims he can declare an emergency and then use military funding on the wall. So why is the government shut down if he doesn't need Congress to fund the wall? This is one heck of a slippery slope. At that point, the President can declare anything a national emergency and spend military funds on it.

I think he is going to do it.

Republican's are going to hate it when the next Democratic President declares a national emergency and uses military funds for some pet project...

The truth of the matter is, an emergency is an acute and sudden problem. A national emergency is not a boarder that's been in existence since we won the Mexican-American War. Examples of emergencies: Pearl Harbor, 9-11, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornados, plane crashes, fires, etc. Examples of non-emergencies: A boarder that's been in existence since 1848, our airports are old and embarrassing, pot holes, natural disaster preparation, missing dessert.

The chocolate cake from Mir-a-Lago? He’s sad he didn’t get to go.

Off topic but there is no way in HELL he didn’t go to Mar-a-Lago for New Years. There was no marine stationed outside WH. I’m waiting for someone to leak images, which will eventually happen and his base will say, [insert excuse here].

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyday it is shutdown I wake up and say thank you

Another day goes by that demonstrates how little gov does for he middle class

Guess you don’t expect a tax refund.

A tax refund is an interest free loan to government. Bad idea. If you were smart, you adjusted for that and kept your own cash throughout the year

I wrote *you* because I owe money.

And you aren't very good at calculations, most people aren't, you will owe penalties.

No, I won’t! I have been paying estimated taxes every quarter. I have extremely complex taxes. I have a CPA who does my taxes.

Hold the phone! You've got complex taxes and have a CPA and yet you're calling people out for getting a tax refund? Talk about apples and oranges! You are nothing like the normal person!

You posted that the government does nothing for the middle class. I was saying that most middle class people are probably expecting refunds. I wasn’t including me in this discussion. You started that conversation. Yes, I realize I’m unusual as I own a small company.

That was actually a typo, didn’t mean to say you aren’t good. Meant to say If you aren’t... typo that made it look like I was talking about you instead of the general public which I doubt can do this math

Agree. Most people have a remedial understanding of taxes. They are extremely complicated. But I do safe harbor every year per my CPA’s guidelines. I pay a breath-taking amount in taxes, which I’m only angry about when I hear about rich people not paying their taxes.

I have a feeling the refund issue will end this shutdown. Or Congress will fund the IRS/Treasury on it’s own bill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyday it is shutdown I wake up and say thank you

Another day goes by that demonstrates how little gov does for he middle class

Guess you don’t expect a tax refund.

A tax refund is an interest free loan to government. Bad idea. If you were smart, you adjusted for that and kept your own cash throughout the year

I wrote *you* because I owe money.

And you aren't very good at calculations, most people aren't, you will owe penalties.

No, I won’t! I have been paying estimated taxes every quarter. I have extremely complex taxes. I have a CPA who does my taxes.

Hold the phone! You've got complex taxes and have a CPA and yet you're calling people out for getting a tax refund? Talk about apples and oranges! You are nothing like the normal person!

You posted that the government does nothing for the middle class. I was saying that most middle class people are probably expecting refunds. I wasn’t including me in this discussion. You started that conversation. Yes, I realize I’m unusual as I own a small company.

That was actually a typo, didn’t mean to say you aren’t good. Meant to say If you aren’t... typo that made it look like I was talking about you instead of the general public which I doubt can do this math

Agree. Most people have a remedial understanding of taxes. They are extremely complicated. But I do safe harbor every year per my CPA’s guidelines. I pay a breath-taking amount in taxes, which I’m only angry about when I hear about rich people not paying their taxes.

Agree!

I have a feeling the refund issue will end this shutdown. Or Congress will fund the IRS/Treasury on it’s own bill.

[Anonymous]

How's this for a solution:

All the government workers I know "work" from home at least half time, with one guy working from home 4 days a week. They all do errands, house projects, etc., on government time and put in a few hours of actual work a day.

So.....let's recall HALF of them, but make them go to the office and work full days. That way, the work is being done, albeit eliminating the redundant half.