Finish the sentence. It is because the children were not believed. MCPS, teachers and John McCarthy have a long history of not believing children and calling them liars. |
I’m more mystified than unsatisfied. If you want to defend the board, have at it, but why? The fact that the board members may be “hardworking” in some context means nothing when they failed to do any of the due diligence necessary to fulfill the most minimal responsibilities placed on board members. You are not speaking any truth that is relevant now that we all know the board members completely ignored all the complaints about Shipley. If you are actually just a parent who didn’t know what was going on, then you should stop defending those who did and decided, for whatever reasons, to turn a blind eye. |
The principal reported it. From the story, MCPS didn’t give the police all the details and they chose not to investigate, therefore MCPS compliance doesn’t feel the need to investigate. MCPS peeps haven’t been conducting full on investigations at all during the pandemic. If the police don’t care, they let it go. Principals have a lot of predators running amok as a result. |
+10000 As a parent if my child told me something disturbing, they would not be on that team and I'd pay what ever I had to for a private team. This was a ripe set up for abuse as the coach quickly realized it. |
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As a former competitive rower (D1 and clubs after college), it's an incredibly intense sport. If you want to be competitive, you have to train very, very hard. And if you buy into that culture, that aspect of what Shipley did would be a feature, not a bug. I'm honestly not sure I want my kids rowing in HS, if they express any interest, because of how intense it is--I worry it would be too much for young kids.
As for the parents who claim they didn't see it: most parents don't want to believe something like this could happen to their kids. Many don't have any kind of experience, personally or professionally, with sexual predators. And plenty are SO horrified by the thought that they bury their heads in the sand rather than learn the signs. Couple that with the uber-competitive nature of many parents in this area, and, yeah, it's easy to see how it happened. People seem to be making the assumption that parents who push their kids into the "best" academics and the most competitive sports are caring, observant parents, but usually, they're doing so out of their own self-interest. |
| I’m still stuck on letting a grown man take all these girls to Airbnb’s for out of town trips with no other adults/parents present. No one working with children should be given this kind of access. There were signs that he was inappropriate and the signs were completely ignored because parents wanted the status and success and scholarship money more than safety for their children. Period. |
The problem with this thinking is that it allows you -- us -- to imagine that we are all sooo different from those Whitman parents, that different parents -- better parents -- would have noticed the signs and put a stop to things long ago. Forget the part where that's a pretty uncharitable caricature of the Whitman community -- but it doesn't keep anyone safer. The fact is -- and this is backed up by research, feel free to google -- that we're all susceptible to manipulation. Predators show up in all kinds of communities. We are all vulnerable, to different degrees. All of our communities are full of individuals and families that are goal-driven, hardworking, that are achieve this or that. Our kindness makes us vulnerable. Our tendency to believe the best of people makes us vulnerable. There's a litany of human psychological traits that make us easy prey for the most nefarious among us. So yes to safeguards, yes to learning lessons. But the blame/shame thing here is, at best, not very constructive. And at worst, it's cruel. Stop wagging your fingers and open your ears. Every community has voices that are marginalized and not listened to. Find the voices at your school. trust me they are there. |
| Has anyone given a good reason why the Board handed over the letter of complaint to the Coach this past summer (before he was arrested)? Anyone had to know that would chill further complaints. The justifications in the article, such as that the girls had not requested confidentiality, seemed pretty weak. I believe that many of the crew parents did not have all the facts, but that one fairly recent decision by the Board members seems pretty indefensible given that these concerns had been raised before. |
Just more evidence the board was not looking out for the students. The fact the gave him the letter is incorrigible. It’s insane they gave him the letter! |
This is an excellent point. We should definitely be educating ourselves and our children better when it comes to social predators (whether sexual or not!) For example: The emotional "overshare" is a classic grooming tactic, whereby the predator "opens up" -- often in a calculated way. This increases the likelihood that a decent, empathetic young person will open up in return -- which makes them more vulnerable to future manipulation. E.g. The predator could use what is shared against the target. Or -- more often -- the predator uses the emotional vulnerability to ramp up grooming. this can happen very slowly, over a span of years... So you don't even notice.
Look, there are lots of people who have drunk the achievement top-25-college Kool Aid. I agree that people make a lot of crap decisions in service of what is in my opinion fool's gold -- and I get frustrated in many contexts by parents whose worldview seems unduly narrow and inflexible. But some of my best friends are caring, observant parents who've drunk the chase-the-college-acceptance Kool aid... More often they are plagued by anxiety -- e.g. what will happen if we don't push? our kid will never stand a chance unless we do xyz -- and this is the part I believe we can address more constructively. We need to be reassuring our kids and our communities that there are multiple paths to "success," multiple paths to good, to practice being honest with ourselves -- ruthless, even -- about our motivations and our fears. If nothing else, that work provides a relief map of our blind spots and vulnerabilities. |
It is truly amazing. He was calling the athletes he coached names to the board members regarding the letter and then they renewed his contract! I have(had) multiple rowers who row out of TBC. Shipley being a creeper wasn't a secret even for the female athletes on other teams. What non-rowing parents may not know is that there are tons of teams down at TBC everyday during the fall and spring seasons. The kids generally know each other from neighborhoods, elementary school, other sports, friends of friends, etc. They see each other every day down on the water and most weekends at regattas. They all talk and gossip. It was well known on our team that Shipley was an asshole to the kids but got results so everyone put up with him. He was openly abusive to his athletes which made a lot the the females from other teams feel uncomfortable. Yes rowing is intense but he was definitely an outlier in his public treatment of his athletes. Our teams travel a lot too. Never would it just be a coach and the kids. Never. We would see Whitman at the travel locations and do just assumed parents had gone too-- like every other team! The whole program is completely toxic. The good news this that the girls rowing out of TBC did really well this fall. So glad to see them loving the sport....and not being humiliated in public or worse! |
Wow! You need therapy that you need this much mental gymnastics to justify that you looked past all the evidence to keep “good admissions “ and left unwitting parents in a position to put their horns in the hands of a predator. The board held back evidence, justified his actions, protected their interests and created a situation ripe for abuse. I know a ton of people in high level sports. NOBODY sends students with a coach and no parental oversight. NOBODY. |
NP. Neither I nor any of the parents I know would be comfortable with our girls staying at an air BNB with a male coach and no female parent chaperones. For whatever reason, this was an extremely poor and reckless choice. Also, it's clear the board with the exception of the dissenting parent, choose anticipated success of well-being. |
Zero knowledge beyond the article, but if I had to guess, the coach and board members had longstanding, probably overly friendly relationships. The tactics this guy was using with teens are the very same tactics predators use to ingratiate themselves with the teens' would-be protectors. They're charismatic. Charming. They make you feel like you're all on the same team! They are masters at building an us-against-them environment. (See: national politics.) So if I had to guess, the board members who shared saw the coach as a friend and an ally, and over the course of years -- without realizing what was happening -- had come to believe that there were people in the club who were dissatisfied, disgruntled jerks. They were definitely part of the problem -- in the sense that but for their trust in the coach he could not have operated so freely -- and also, they were duped. I am certain that the toxic environment the rowers describe extended to parental relationships. 1000%. So those three kids, whose parents have been complaining for years? Again? Ugh damn I guess they really do have a vendetta. I should let Coach know what's coming, they're really out to get him this time. -- Not justifying. Describing how such a thing comes to pass. Obviously it looks different and damning from the outside, in hindsight. |
over on of well-being. Sorry! |