More defections from DA to ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused by all this. Im a 2008 parent here (be gentle) im naive so if I want to try out for Washington Spirit later in VA, will it not exist anymore? Great falls WILL be WSVA? Im really confused by the comments should I just go to ECNL when the time comes? Seems like a war out here and im a deer in a headlights.

You are correct in that there is a war here amongst a few parents who enjoy spreading misinformation to elevate their clubs and diminish others. Spirit, BRYC, and McLean are notable targets for abuse. These posters often post incorrect information that is later proven false, and their aim to to try to steer people like you.

My advice is to speak with he club TDs directly to assess the programs and voice any concerns. The rumors you read here are in the complete garbage category in almost all cases, based on past history, especially where the top targets are concerned.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how now that DA exists ECNL has suddenly become the champion of HS soccer. 3-4 years ago ECNL coaches heavily discouraged their players from participating. Funny how things change.

It says something about a league when ECNL’s best selling point is the opportunity to not actually play in the league.

You sound like a parent of a young player. You dont know what you're taking about.

Ecnl is not structured the same way it was 3 or 4 years ago.

The boys DA is a failed system. No need to repeat it. Enjoy

You actually sound like a parent who is new to ECNL. In no way before DA were ECNL coaches pumping HS school soccer. In fact it was easier to threaten kids that their spot will be gone because with ECNL being the only game in town many kids were just waiting in the wings.

But now that there is competition ECNL is pumping the nostalgia card of HS soccer. Exactly what does that say about their league when they have to push concession stands and pregame music of something they are not even involved with?

Why doesn’t ECNL just say “ECNL, pay for10 months but train for 6 months”

My kid played in both. Back when ECNL and HS played concurrently. That's doesnt happen now. Do you understand that? Splitting time between HS and ECNL was frowned upon because of overload...hence the change.

In general, the highest level club soccer is better than the highest level high school soccer. However, I bet three things:

Your childs 04 team (ECNL or DA), will not beat her high school team.

Your childs 03 tean (ECNl or DA) will be on par with her club team

Your childs 02 team (ECNL or DA) will be better than her high school team

On average

For the 04 and 03 ECNL kids, HS is a challenge. Make no mistake about it. The quality may not be as good, but the challenges are....and that my friend is player development...mentally and physically.

So your telling me that 20 league games, just league games, not showcases, but league games in the the fall season is not overload? Because that is how they "balanced" the schedule to accommodate HS Soccer. They just overloaded the fall. Add in the number of fall ECNL showcases and that is overload.

what DA team is playing 20 league games from Sept to December? Its practically MAY and most DA teams are at 18 games played now. Many are at only 15 or so so far.

Correct, ECNL have teams who have played 20 league games in the fall. But that isn't overload, it is simply adjusting for HS School soccer so that they can play 19 games in 3 months. So, a perfectly healthy schedule overall.

Well, thats far from the truth as well. Do you all just make shit up as you go?

Lets take a look at BRYC's 03 ECNL schedule for example:

From Sept 1st to December 16th they played in a total of 21 games in four months.

They then played 3 games in January and 4 in March for a total of 28 games in 7 months.

Now, if your kid is going to play HS Soccer you can tack on another 20 games from early March to mid May. If your team is good there is potential for a max of 9 more games in the playoffs to be a State Champ by the end of June.

Sprinkled in all of that are two National ECNL events in April (Phoenix) and May (New Jersey) for a total of 6 more games.

So two major showcase events are right in the thick of the HS Soccer season. So you can choose to stay and train with your ECNL team, 1/3 of which isn't there at practices most of the time because of HS Soccer practice and games or you play HS Soccer and make a 1/3 of your club practices. All of this while still hoping to play well as a team at two separate showcases with the legs of a kid who has been on a soccer field for 6 days a week possibly have played in 20 games since January alone by that point.

https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=1919620

[Anonymous]

^^^US Soccer is proud of you.

Solar rumored to announce DA defection for all in ECNL after showcase.

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"If the rumors coming out of Florida are true, then they are dropping 3 Florida clubs because Tophat threatened to go all in ECNL if they didn’t do something about the travel"

NY thread

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Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^US Soccer is proud of you.

Solar rumored to announce DA defection for all in ECNL after showcase.

Ok, Captain ECNL, now tell me, regardless of league how the presented and accurate schedule is actually good for a HS age player.

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Is it possible for DA and ECNL to merge? Would be nice to see NWSL teams get good recognition

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Anonymous wrote:^^^US Soccer is proud of you.

Solar rumored to announce DA defection for all in ECNL after showcase.

Ok, Captain ECNL, now tell me, regardless of league how the presented and accurate schedule is actually good for a HS age player.

Start your own thread broski. This one is titled, "More DA defections to ECNL."

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^US Soccer is proud of you.

Solar rumored to announce DA defection for all in ECNL after showcase.

Ok, Captain ECNL, now tell me, regardless of league how the presented and accurate schedule is actually good for a HS age player.

Start your own thread broski. This one is titled, "More DA defections to ECNL."

If you want DA players to also defect then sell me why I' should pay the value of 10 months of training to get 6 months of training.

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Do ECNL teams ever do overseas games? Or DA at that? Do European scouters look at these 2 leagues?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do ECNL teams ever do overseas games? Or DA at that? Do European scouters look at these 2 leagues?

The boys DA plays international tourneys. I don't think the girls side is there yet.

ECNL, there are some US Tourneys that are international as well, but in general girls soccer is not the same in Europe as it is here. This is not the fault of either league just that there are simply not as many girls tourneys or even girls brackets in Europe as there are here.

Individual clubs will do international trips but that is club dependent and has nothing to do with the particular league.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^US Soccer is proud of you.

Solar rumored to announce DA defection for all in ECNL after showcase.

Ok, Captain ECNL, now tell me, regardless of league how the presented and accurate schedule is actually good for a HS age player.

Start your own thread broski. This one is titled, "More DA defections to ECNL."

If you want DA players to also defect then sell me why I' should pay the value of 10 months of training to get 6 months of training.

DA players to defect? Nobody is trying to get you or anyone else to defect. Kids who want to play HS defect on their own. The good kids are getting recruited regardless of league. College is the end game. Period.

You really are a parent of a young player.

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Anonymous wrote:Since all of the top clubs in the US are moving to ECNL, the DA parents have try something.

New tactic - Push too many games as the ECNL issue. Too much soccer! No wait, since their kids can't get enough and want 11 months of soccer it's not too much soccer. But games are bad. Training is good but games are bad.

What is the value of two ECNL spring showcases when your primary training environment is a HS team and not the actual ECNL team playing in the showcase?

And what is the value of the ECNL training environment during the spring when over a 1/3 of the players are never at practice because they are at High School?

Just tell me the upside? Please it has to be more than a concession stand with popcorn and pregame music.

You are really asking why some teenagers see upside in playing for their HS? Wow

Ok, so I'll also ask my teen what the upside of driving a car full of loaded kids is? Or whats the upside of going out till 1am on a school night. Certainly asking the HS kid if they understand the upside of 30 games in 3 months with one day a week off during that time frame is the right course of action. In general it is pretty solid advice to just let teenagers make all of their decisions without guidance.