First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

Again, especially in a title 1 school, there may be a large percentage of foster children placed in homes in MD, too, who are being dropped off in non-DC cars. There are joint custody divorce situations, and kinship care. Not to mention the nannies or family members caring for children, or flat-out laziness about changing car registration. Could be the principal is satisfied with the residency requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, especially in a title 1 school, there may be a large percentage of foster children placed in homes in MD, too, who are being dropped off in non-DC cars. There are joint custody divorce situations, and kinship care. Not to mention the nannies or family members caring for children, or flat-out laziness about changing car registration. Could be the principal is satisfied with the residency requirements.

Lots of explanations/excuses, but with the sheer volume of MD cars at some schools, it strains credibility to conclude that most involve legitimate situations. In fact, in a number of incidents that have gotten lots of press -- the kid who brought drugs in a backpack to elementary school, the mother who sued her son's DC charter in court in PG, Wilson's football team being ineligible for a bowl game -- all involved students who resided in MD and were illegally enrolled in DC schools. So if residency fraud is being uncovered as big rocks are being turned over, it should make us wonder about widespread cheating that goes undetected unless some other incident brings it to light.

[Anonymous]

I only have your word for this sheer volume. And frankly, you are not an unbiased, or a hinged, witness.

[Anonymous]

And no, I don't personally know anyone who is committing residence fraud. And i--unlike you, I suspect--live in deal's cachement.

Every time you're called in your bullshit, you resort to this, "oh, you must be a poor pg resident." Wrong. I'm just not a busy body asshole. I treat others like I want them to treat me. I raise my children by this standard. And life is so much more pleasant when you don't run around thinking everyone is trying to cheat you.

Seriously, it is. I hope you reach a place--perhaps when your kids are in college--unless, what if their spaces are taken by others who get affirmative action--where you can relax and stop whining about problems that are not yours and probably do not exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And no, I don't personally know anyone who is committing residence fraud. And i--unlike you, I suspect--live in deal's cachement.

Every time you're called in your bullshit, you resort to this, "oh, you must be a poor pg resident." Wrong. I'm just not a busy body asshole. I treat others like I want them to treat me. I raise my children by this standard. And life is so much more pleasant when you don't run around thinking everyone is trying to cheat you.

Seriously, it is. I hope you reach a place--perhaps when your kids are in college--unless, what if their spaces are taken by others who get affirmative action--where you can relax and stop whining about problems that are not yours and probably do not exist.

+10,000,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And no, I don't personally know anyone who is committing residence fraud. And i--unlike you, I suspect--live in deal's cachement.

Every time you're called in your bullshit, you resort to this, "oh, you must be a poor pg resident." Wrong. I'm just not a busy body asshole. I treat others like I want them to treat me. I raise my children by this standard. And life is so much more pleasant when you don't run around thinking everyone is trying to cheat you.

Seriously, it is. I hope you reach a place--perhaps when your kids are in college--unless, what if their spaces are taken by others who get affirmative action--where you can relax and stop whining about problems that are not yours and probably do not exist.

--Commuting DC government employee who doesn't want you sticking your nose in her business.

[Anonymous]

here's my take (as someone who couldn't afford a house in a good school district, got in a charter via the lottery, moved eotp, may have to go private for middle and high school as I have no viable options past 6th grade).

if residency cheating or waitlist cheating is a problem (and I'm not convinced it is) it is not MY problem. It is a problem for school administrators. And if they don't care and I do, then perhaps I'm not at the right school for my family. You can due do diligence and mention to the administration that larla has md tags, but it is up to them to care. For your family 1) you can either afford to live in the school district or you can't (it won't kill you to pay for pk4 like the rest of the country); if you can't afford to live in the school district, you shouldn't be upset about not going to that school while someone else who can't afford to live in the school district does go to the school 2) if the charter school is cheating on waitlists and knowingly admitting md residents, you do not want to go there. The administration is just untrustworthy. perhaps you wish they had a different administration - but in any case your beef is with the corrupt administration not the residency cheaters who benefit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here's my take (as someone who couldn't afford a house in a good school district, got in a charter via the lottery, moved eotp, may have to go private for middle and high school as I have no viable options past 6th grade).

if residency cheating or waitlist cheating is a problem (and I'm not convinced it is) it is not MY problem. It is a problem for school administrators. And if they don't care and I do, then perhaps I'm not at the right school for my family. You can due do diligence and mention to the administration that larla has md tags, but it is up to them to care. For your family 1) you can either afford to live in the school district or you can't (it won't kill you to pay for pk4 like the rest of the country); if you can't afford to live in the school district, you shouldn't be upset about not going to that school while someone else who can't afford to live in the school district does go to the school 2) if the charter school is cheating on waitlists and knowingly admitting md residents, you do not want to go there. The administration is just untrustworthy. perhaps you wish they had a different administration - but in any case your beef is with the corrupt administration not the residency cheaters who benefit.

That's like saying that shoplifting is not the shoplifter's fault, but rather that of the store for not controlling the problem better.

Only in Deecee.

[Anonymous]

At Janney the parents discovered someone who was committing residency fraud. They went to the school with the evidence, and the students were gone, just like that. I don't know whether the parents are being prosecuted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here's my take (as someone who couldn't afford a house in a good school district, got in a charter via the lottery, moved eotp, may have to go private for middle and high school as I have no viable options past 6th grade).

if residency cheating or waitlist cheating is a problem (and I'm not convinced it is) it is not MY problem. It is a problem for school administrators. And if they don't care and I do, then perhaps I'm not at the right school for my family. You can due do diligence and mention to the administration that larla has md tags, but it is up to them to care. For your family 1) you can either afford to live in the school district or you can't (it won't kill you to pay for pk4 like the rest of the country); if you can't afford to live in the school district, you shouldn't be upset about not going to that school while someone else who can't afford to live in the school district does go to the school 2) if the charter school is cheating on waitlists and knowingly admitting md residents, you do not want to go there. The administration is just untrustworthy. perhaps you wish they had a different administration - but in any case your beef is with the corrupt administration not the residency cheaters who benefit.

That's like saying that shoplifting is not the shoplifter's fault, but rather that of the store for not controlling the problem better.

Only in Deecee.

schools can easily prevent residency fraud (not so for schools). Plus shoplifting and trying to get your kids a good education re two different things. I am not from DC, and have lived here less than a decade, so my perspective is not a DC thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here's my take (as someone who couldn't afford a house in a good school district, got in a charter via the lottery, moved eotp, may have to go private for middle and high school as I have no viable options past 6th grade).

if residency cheating or waitlist cheating is a problem (and I'm not convinced it is) it is not MY problem. It is a problem for school administrators. And if they don't care and I do, then perhaps I'm not at the right school for my family. You can due do diligence and mention to the administration that larla has md tags, but it is up to them to care. For your family 1) you can either afford to live in the school district or you can't (it won't kill you to pay for pk4 like the rest of the country); if you can't afford to live in the school district, you shouldn't be upset about not going to that school while someone else who can't afford to live in the school district does go to the school 2) if the charter school is cheating on waitlists and knowingly admitting md residents, you do not want to go there. The administration is just untrustworthy. perhaps you wish they had a different administration - but in any case your beef is with the corrupt administration not the residency cheaters who benefit.

That's like saying that shoplifting is not the shoplifter's fault, but rather that of the store for not controlling the problem better.

Only in Deecee.

schools can easily prevent residency fraud (not so for schools). Plus shoplifting and trying to get your kids a good education re two different things. I am not from DC, and have lived here less than a decade, so my perspective is not a DC thing.

sorry that should be not so for stores

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here's my take (as someone who couldn't afford a house in a good school district, got in a charter via the lottery, moved eotp, may have to go private for middle and high school as I have no viable options past 6th grade).

if residency cheating or waitlist cheating is a problem (and I'm not convinced it is) it is not MY problem. It is a problem for school administrators. And if they don't care and I do, then perhaps I'm not at the right school for my family. You can due do diligence and mention to the administration that larla has md tags, but it is up to them to care. For your family 1) you can either afford to live in the school district or you can't (it won't kill you to pay for pk4 like the rest of the country); if you can't afford to live in the school district, you shouldn't be upset about not going to that school while someone else who can't afford to live in the school district does go to the school 2) if the charter school is cheating on waitlists and knowingly admitting md residents, you do not want to go there. The administration is just untrustworthy. perhaps you wish they had a different administration - but in any case your beef is with the corrupt administration not the residency cheaters who benefit.

That's like saying that shoplifting is not the shoplifter's fault, but rather that of the store for not controlling the problem better.

Only in Deecee.

schools can easily prevent residency fraud (not so for schools). Plus shoplifting and trying to get your kids a good education re two different things. I am not from DC, and have lived here less than a decade, so my perspective is not a DC thing.

NP here. Sorry, but I think the PP's analogy of shoplifting and stores is dead on. Don't blame the people stealing, blame the managers and owners who don't catch them.

[Anonymous]

Except we should blame the people stealing, where are people's ethics? This is a NP. I still hold school administrators responsible to make a concerted effort, but that is in addition to the responsibility of those making the false residency claims.

[Anonymous]

I blame people shoplifting good quality food to feed their families (when all they can afford is processed junk) less than I blame people shoplifting frivolities. So sure, I blame people stealing a high quality education they can't afford for their kids less than I blame other kinds of fraud and theft.

The schools can make doing so next to impossible if they cared to (oyster, for instance, does this). If they don't, then blame the administrators and consider why they don't care and if your own world views match that of the leaders' of your school. If they don't care to address something you care so deeply about, that tells you something about whether the school is for you.

[Anonymous]

Actually, the analogy is more like a D.C.-run supermarket that dispenses a limited amount of "free" food to people who live in your neighborhood. So you show up with a "Ward #" residency card, pick up some available eggs, and go home. Except on the way out, you see people emerging from several cars with MD tags entering the store and showing the same "Ward #" cards, and then they get some eggs, too. You know there are a limited supply of eggs at your store, and a limited number of "Ward #" cards, so...are you concerned or not?