NY mom murdered

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

If they had a “horrible marriage,” you get divorced. You don’t screw multiple other men and endanger your child.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

If they had a “horrible marriage,” you get divorced. You don’t screw multiple other men and endanger your child.

This.

Do we even know for a fact that she was online dating? The handyman could have been her only affair.

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The woman from the relationship forum whose husband had the affair with an Ashley Madison woman has used the phrase "seductive selfie" about 187 times in this thread. I've only seen one that is remotely seductive (the Starbucks straw one). You sound so frigid and insecure, lady.

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

If they had a “horrible marriage,” you get divorced. You don’t screw multiple other men and endanger your child.

This.

Do we even know for a fact that she was online dating? The handyman could have been her only affair.

Some articles said she was in contact with several men they were questioning, but no mention of a brother, a male best friend, BIL or a male therapist.

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

Yes. They basically all but said it. They were being discreet. I’m sure those cheating men are thankful.
In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

If they had a “horrible marriage,” you get divorced. You don’t screw multiple other men and endanger your child.

This.

Do we even know for a fact that she was online dating? The handyman could have been her only affair.

Some articles said she was in contact with several men they were questioning, but no mention of a brother, a male best friend, BIL or a male therapist.

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Her 13-year old son most of all. She almost got him killed too that night.

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

If they had a “horrible marriage,” you get divorced. You don’t screw multiple other men and endanger your child.

This.

Do we even know for a fact that she was online dating? The handyman could have been her only affair.

Some articles said she was in contact with several men they were questioning, but no mention of a brother, a male best friend, BIL or a male therapist.

They were very focused on the 3 men she had online communication with and the handyman in the initial hours. They all but said they were “dating apps”. They were being discreet. Those cheating men are thankful, I’m sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

She was great at covering up who she really was, a woman that was online dating, didn’t come home some nights, brought a dangerous man in her home, had sex with her lover in the family home, stayed out late (past midnight) drinking at bars (was a regular bartender said), took countless seductive selfies and lied to everyone that knew her. She could have caused the death of her 13-year old and thank his he didn’t wake up or he would have been murdered too.

Narcissists and borderline personalities are very good at fooling others, even therapists!

But as this plays out, more is actually being said about both of them that indicates not everyone was so fooled.

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Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s double the expense of travel and with a bored 13 year old who might have school or sports commitments at home.

They were going to fly out to meet them, so not a $ or her job issue. Maybe younger one had school Friday. She got her night off to try to find new dates (3 guys the prior night and was trying to line something up). She had gotten back with the handyman this month and recently broke up AGAIN (off and on 2 years). But, as another pp suggested, people in affairs are constantly monitoring the family's/kid's/spouse's schedules for opportunity. Oh--my lover is going to be in NYC for work---he can say it's too late Friday to come home and I can take the train up there and say I'm visiting my old roommate. Oh--he can fake a mid-day work trip--well--I can come up with some reason I need to stay in town. Oh--college trips are coming up...I will say its boy bonding time or I have to stay home with the dog, teach my exercise class---so I can have hours alone.

That's how people consumed in cheating operate. Always looking for opportunity to sneak off. Covid lockdown really made it hard for some of them...hence her going for a long walk and ending up not coming home.

And the point is to gaslight and not making anything seem out of the ordinary. IF the marriage seems happy and family running well, the spouse isn't even thinking of questioning any of those things.

LOOK. The guy probably discovered one of her infidelities (after the night she didn't come home). She probably gaslit the hell out of it. If she admitted anything--it was a one time thing, got drunk, etc. They might have worked through it.

People like that, newly in recovering, will make sure the spouse isn't left alone. The 13-year old precisely was home so husband would feel comfortable leaving her when they went out of town. I mean "who cheats when their 13-year old is with them for the weekend"? The tickets to the show were used as a logical REASON to get herself out of the house. Only she didn't rush home to the 13-year old. She was hanging out at the bar alone until almost 1am, waiting for one of the guys she had contacted online the night before. He pulled a no show, very common when married cheaters get spooked. Jealous handyman shows up at the house, she lets him inside...at 1am with HER KID sleeping upstairs.

Take all of that in. Good people can't imagine or believe any of this because it is not something they would ever do themselves. They trust and believe. Spouses who provide unconditional trust are easy for them to fool.

I can’t imagine the husband knew about the handyman because if he did I’m sure he wouldn’t have still had him working for them at the time. She just had the note “find new handyman” on her fridge.

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

If they had a “horrible marriage,” you get divorced. You don’t screw multiple other men and endanger your child.

This.

Do we even know for a fact that she was online dating? The handyman could have been her only affair.

Some articles said she was in contact with several men they were questioning, but no mention of a brother, a male best friend, BIL or a male therapist.

They were very focused on the 3 men she had online communication with and the handyman in the initial hours. They all but said they were “dating apps”. They were being discreet. Those cheating men are thankful, I’m sure.

She definitely was online dating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

“DC Area Mom Brutally Murdered; Serial Poster of Nasty Comments on DCUM, Public Concludes Murder Was Justified”

[Anonymous]

Will he get deported back to Mexico?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Husband and 12th grader son were in Ann Arbor, Mich. visiting UMich at time of murder. Husband is a UMich alum. Pretty odd for the victim / wife / mom to not go with them on kid’s official college visit. Which suggests marital issues, right?

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/04/21/wife-found-duffel-bag-husband-son-college-tour-ann-arbor/7358919001/

No. That’s double the expense of travel and with a bored 13 year old who might have school or sports commitments at home.

They were going to fly out to meet them, so not a $ or her job issue. Maybe younger one had school Friday. She got her night off to try to find new dates (3 guys the prior night and was trying to line something up). She had gotten back with the handyman this month and recently broke up AGAIN (off and on 2 years). But, as another pp suggested, people in affairs are constantly monitoring the family's/kid's/spouse's schedules for opportunity. Oh--my lover is going to be in NYC for work---he can say it's too late Friday to come home and I can take the train up there and say I'm visiting my old roommate. Oh--he can fake a mid-day work trip--well--I can come up with some reason I need to stay in town. Oh--college trips are coming up...I will say its boy bonding time or I have to stay home with the dog, teach my exercise class---so I can have hours alone.

That's how people consumed in cheating operate. Always looking for opportunity to sneak off. Covid lockdown really made it hard for some of them...hence her going for a long walk and ending up not coming home.

And the point is to gaslight and not making anything seem out of the ordinary. IF the marriage seems happy and family running well, the spouse isn't even thinking of questioning any of those things.

LOOK. The guy probably discovered one of her infidelities (after the night she didn't come home). She probably gaslit the hell out of it. If she admitted anything--it was a one time thing, got drunk, etc. They might have worked through it.

People like that, newly in recovering, will make sure the spouse isn't left alone. The 13-year old precisely was home so husband would feel comfortable leaving her when they went out of town. I mean "who cheats when their 13-year old is with them for the weekend"? The tickets to the show were used as a logical REASON to get herself out of the house. Only she didn't rush home to the 13-year old. She was hanging out at the bar alone until almost 1am, waiting for one of the guys she had contacted online the night before. He pulled a no show, very common when married cheaters get spooked. Jealous handyman shows up at the house, she lets him inside...at 1am with HER KID sleeping upstairs.

Take all of that in. Good people can't imagine or believe any of this because it is not something they would ever do themselves. They trust and believe. Spouses who provide unconditional trust are easy for them to fool.

I can’t imagine the husband knew about the handyman because if he did I’m sure he wouldn’t have still had him working for them at the time. She just had the note “find new handyman” on her fridge.

Police said she let him in so who knows if the locks had been changed.

I’m not sure they had a security camera. It was the neighbors that caught the images published.

That leads me to believe the husband was clueless about her 2 year affair with him, but had to wonder why the AC was getting serviced so frequently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Her 13-year old son most of all. She almost got him killed too that night.

Is that like when women “get themselves pregnant”? Surely you mean that the guy who decided to brutally murder a woman could have decided to brutally murder a child as well?

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Her 13-year old son most of all. She almost got him killed too that night.

Is that like when women “get themselves pregnant”? Surely you mean that the guy who decided to brutally murder a woman could have decided to brutally murder a child as well?

Don’t be an idiot. She let this guy into the family home at 1am. A man she had been cheating on the kid’s dad with for 2 years and new he had a temper and had broken up with him on and off as he grew increasingly angry. Because she didn’t want to get caught she didn’t take appropriate safety precautions, like getting a restraining order, etc. if the kid walked downstairs that night, he would have been killed.