NY mom murdered

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

Nope, sorry. I have a great deal of emphathy for her. I never said she was an awful mom, and everything I've seen points to the opposite. What she endured is unimaginable. What her family is going through is beyond unimaginable, especially her kids. Nobody deserves this, and the way she was killed is especially horrific. But again, to point out that she was reckless or used poor judgment is NOT the same as showing a lack of empathy. If I said she deserved it, totally different story, but I didn't. I'm not passing judgment on the cheating itself because I honestly feel like you can't tell what happens in someone else's marriage, but having your AP in and out of your home, with a key, close to your family, your kid in the house, etc, sorry but it's dangerous as hell. It's reckless and you're not going to convince me that we need to pretend that's not the case just to show empathy for this woman and her family. She made some extremely poor choices and it's sad as hell. I also feel empathy for the spouse and kids of the killer; they didn't ask for this. Got something to say about that too? Give me a break.

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

Nope, sorry. I have a great deal of emphathy for her. I never said she was an awful mom, and everything I've seen points to the opposite. What she endured is unimaginable. What her family is going through is beyond unimaginable, especially her kids. Nobody deserves this, and the way she was killed is especially horrific. But again, to point out that she was reckless or used poor judgment is NOT the same as showing a lack of empathy. If I said she deserved it, totally different story, but I didn't. I'm not passing judgment on the cheating itself because I honestly feel like you can't tell what happens in someone else's marriage, but having your AP in and out of your home, with a key, close to your family, your kid in the house, etc, sorry but it's dangerous as hell. It's reckless and you're not going to convince me that we need to pretend that's not the case just to show empathy for this woman and her family. She made some extremely poor choices and it's sad as hell. I also feel empathy for the spouse and kids of the killer; they didn't ask for this. Got something to say about that too? Give me a break.

My comments weren’t directed to you specifically, but if you don’t think there is a ridiculous amount of sl*t shaming and victim bashing going on these last few pages, you haven’t been reading the comments. Look at the one just above yours as an example.

I expect everyone on here would agree she had been making a lot of very questionable choices for many years, but that’s not why she died. She died because this guy killed her. It’s really a very important distinction, exactly along the lines, if differing in degree, from the old debates about whether you were asking to be or deserve to be raped by showing up at a pool hall in a short skirt and cleavage-baring top. In both cases, while of course the woman would be safer if she stayed home, the crimes happen because the perpetrator decides it’s ok to break the law and harm another person.

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I do not know the victim, but I know some other women in our FB group who did. They say she was a very nice and smart, educated person. Neighbors talked about her in a similar way. Who knows what was going on in their marriage. I cannot identify with her actions, I don't get it at all, but just wanted to add this. I feel terrible for her husband and kids, and her family back in the old country.

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

She didn't work so her solution was to live off hubby's $$ to keep the lifestyle while banging the swarmy AC repairman, and as he got crazier/dangerous--start looking for new lovers online.

Nice.

Or maybe they agreed to preserve a sham marriage until the kids were grown. Maybe he was mean to her behind closed doors. The point is we don't know anything!

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

She didn't work so her solution was to live off hubby's $$ to keep the lifestyle while banging the swarmy AC repairman, and as he got crazier/dangerous--start looking for new lovers online.

Nice.

Or maybe they agreed to preserve a sham marriage until the kids were grown. Maybe he was mean to her behind closed doors. The point is we don't know anything!

Exactly, good possibility...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

She was great at covering up who she really was, a woman that was online dating, didn’t come home some nights, brought a dangerous man in her home, had sex with her lover in the family home, stayed out late (past midnight) drinking at bars (was a regular bartender said), took countless seductive selfies and lied to everyone that knew her. She could have caused the death of her 13-year old and thank his he didn’t wake up or he would have been murdered too.

Narcissists and borderline personalities are very good at fooling others, even therapists!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

She didn't work so her solution was to live off hubby's $$ to keep the lifestyle while banging the swarmy AC repairman, and as he got crazier/dangerous--start looking for new lovers online.

Nice.

Or maybe they agreed to preserve a sham marriage until the kids were grown. Maybe he was mean to her behind closed doors. The point is we don't know anything!

He was mean so she was hooking up with men the entire marriage. Online dates in the hopper with 3 men after rekindling her sexual relationship with her bohunk illiterate illegal AC repairman. Yeah- really sane, great wife and mother.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

She was great at covering up who she really was, a woman that was online dating, didn’t come home some nights, brought a dangerous man in her home, had sex with her lover in the family home, stayed out late (past midnight) drinking at bars (was a regular bartender said), took countless seductive selfies and lied to everyone that knew her. She could have caused the death of her 13-year old and thank his he didn’t wake up or he would have been murdered too.

Narcissists and borderline personalities are very good at fooling others, even therapists!

I wonder what people will say about your hateful ass when you're gone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Screw you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

She was great at covering up who she really was, a woman that was online dating, didn’t come home some nights, brought a dangerous man in her home, had sex with her lover in the family home, stayed out late (past midnight) drinking at bars (was a regular bartender said), took countless seductive selfies and lied to everyone that knew her. She could have caused the death of her 13-year old and thank his he didn’t wake up or he would have been murdered too.

Narcissists and borderline personalities are very good at fooling others, even therapists!

I wonder what people will say about your hateful ass when you're gone?

I see nothing hateful in PP's post. Everything stated was fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Screw you.

Ok then. But at the end of the day, she's still gone forever and her family will suffer every single day of their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:How could she leave a 13 year old alone at night. Something is off here.
No way, my 13 year old would stay home alone at night.

I was “a 13 year old alone at night” babysitting other people’s children. This seems like a you problem.

Ha, so true. At 13 I was babysitting 3 kids between 1 and 5 years old until 2am regularly. PP would be HORRIFIED at the amount of (responsibility?) I had by 16.

I am not the pp.
I am horrified at your parents and the parents of the kids you babysat. 13 is way too young.

What? How old are you? I was also babysitting at 13, and so were all of my friends. You must be super young and your parents helicoptered you.

I was in the 80s, but 13-year olds are not staying up to babysit kids past midnight in my area. The fact is, if the dude hasn’t stood her up, she would have been out until the wee hours of the morning (like last time).

It’s what she was doing and why she was leaving the kids alone (to drink and cheat) that is the issue here.

+1. Let’s not pretend she was being a responsible parent.

omg who tf cares?

Because play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Dear god, stop using that phrase.

No. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:This article says Bonola was a creeper who harassed the young women working at the local Starbucks to the point they had called the cops!

https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/orsolya-gaal-let-david-bonola-into-her-home-before-repeatedly-asking-him-leave/

I just read he was married and had kids too. Supposedly was 'separated' and not living with them currently.

YIKES--he not looking good in that courtroom photo. Looks scary.

Queens mom Orsolya Gaal willingly let her ex-handyman lover into her home early Saturday morning." WTF? She let her lover in at 1am with her 13-year old asleep upstairs. JFC.

In addition to the shock and hurt from betrayal, there is the seething anger that she endangered their son’s life.

This is why cheaters make me so angry. Just get divorced. They invite craziness and kooky people into the family’s orbit—betrayed spouses, crazy stalkers, mentally unstable women/men.

Grief mixed with complete anger at her, I’m sure.

And throw in humiliation as well, particularly the caliber of the guy and that it was shown she had a bunch of horse in the stable (online dating with 3 men on the hook), being cheated on like that.

Maybe he was an innocent victim, maybe they had a horrible marriage, we really don't know...

If they had a “horrible marriage,” you get divorced. You don’t screw multiple other men and endanger your child.

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Anonymous wrote:Simply my take (from very afar), based on news/FB:

* Ms. Gaal truly loved her kids (relationship w/ her husband unclear)
* She was naturally beautiful (no matter her hair color/"work done")
* Like most of us, she was probably struggling w/ some form of mental illness
* She also really loved nature (most of her FB pics are of nature, a fact not mentioned in the nearly 30 pages of this post)
* She was very cultured, having traveled to many parts of the world and seems to have genuinely loved the people, foods, and the arts
* Like all of us, Ms. Gaal was a human being who make mistakes
* She and her family deserve respect

I live in a glass house, so no stones being thrown by me.

She may have loved her kids, but she took risks and left the younger one at home past midnight out drinking to meet men she met online. She also just chose not to come home one night without telling anyone. She was reported to be a regular at the bar alone. The things she was doing put her family in danger. If her son came downstairs that night, he likely would have been killed too. Think about that.

That is not being a good mother. Most chronic cheaters like this, as demonstrated, will give the lover preference over the kids.

He definitely would have killed the son too if he had walked in when he offed the mother. He knows the kid would have run to call 911 and been a witness. Thank his he slept through that.

You don't know that. Stop trying so hard to sensationalize this case even more than it already is.

New poster. I hope you're kidding. The woman goes to a local bar alone all the time, sleeps with her handyman for two years, might have slept with a slew of other people given the NYPD search for "boyfriends," and doesn't care about her children and was absent at least that night. And this is just the beginning of this story.

How many mothers here would leave a 13-year-old alone in the house while they went to a play with friends, stopped off to drink by themselves in a bar, and then let an affair partner in the house?

I'm pretty sure if my husband was traveling with my older son, I would be sure to be home one night with my 13-year-old instead of going out for the night with friends, drinking alone in a bar while my kid was home, and well, the rest of it all.

Yeah....but we are supposed to forget all of that lest we victim shame. We apparently can't feel great empathy for her death while also recognizing her reckless behavior. As with everyone on DCUM, there is no nuance to this position, apparently.

Come on, now. None of the recent posters talking about what an awful mom/person/cheater she was have shown a speck of empathy toward her. And the fact that so many are talking about her instead of her killer is telling too.

You are absolutely correct.

I really do not have any empathy for her. She made one bad decision after another and, well, it finally caught up with her.

I do have empathy, however, for her poor husband and children. At the end of the day, her bad decision making will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Screw you.